Aiyo, saya betul betul Konfuse...
Saya punya upline kasi punya presentation Tak Sama pun...
Tengok, where got Beli Rank ???
Beli Products ada kot...

Your Upline yang Tipu you,
You mahu Tukar Upline ?

becareful later kena report.. smlj also can kena report here.. 

you dont question.. later kena lipot..

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Freedom of speech and expression, should not be recognized as being absolute.
It is with limitations or boundaries to libel, slander, obscenity, sedition, incitement, etc.

Ini saya TAK Konfuse…
Jaga jaga kita punya ayat lah...

    good for upline

Can u compile a list of stuffs you clarify?

Hi I’m working right now so I’ll answer your post later when I have time. But skimming through, seems like you’re trying to apply a different type of MLM to Mcocean (such as claiming MLM startup capitals are cheap but Mcocean is in the thousands ringgit, etc).

Also opening your own shop doesn’t include manipulating people into joining a biz with you, is transparent with its products and services, and does not have uplines breathing down your neck and being tied to a company which imposes KPI system to the higher ranking members and pays you your commision every month. In your own business, you do your own accounts and auditing. Not so for a member of Mcocean.

I’ll reply more later.

I kind of understand their reason to lodge a open report to the Admin about Meconfuse’s behaviour as he is constantly disrupting the flow of the thread with spam. He rarely adds to the conversation, is here to provoke people, and can’t even spell properly in most of his posts. What he posts isn’t anything groundbreaking or new info anyways. Everything that he has said are just generic defenses from Mcocean whiteknighters. What is Meconfuse trying to prove by posting the convo between GG and the Admin? Is he trying to say that Mcocean haterz are suppressing his freedom of speech? That’s a very weak link, bro. Unless you are some hebat debater and can give critical, thoughtful points defending Mcocean, only then your point is valid. But seeing your post history, you are only here to provoke people and then play victim. GG have the right to complain about you.

As for me, I don’t really care if Meconfuse is here or not. Just move along. Let’s just focus on redirecting the thread back to the discussion on hand and keep everything in perspective. I’m also tired of rehashing the same points to the new Mco defenders. It’s always the same arguments, and my answers are all the same as well. Go read back the entire thread please. Unless they bring up a new interpretation or explanation to their business system, there’s really no need to entertain all of the repeated questions.

This thread is not Mcocean’s hallroom, where you can apply all your dramatic manipulation/provoking tactics and avoiding-a-straight-answer tai-chi skills and get away with it. I’m gonna keep steering the conversation back into perspective.

So post it then. Or waiting for your KP or PP to give you word file draft on whatsapp for you to post? I really have zero patience for people who tai-chi2 like this.

While these Mc Ocean defenders are still blindly defending their precious Mc Ocean, the founder is:

1. Happily & comfortably relaxing in his mansion in K*j*ng.
2. Travelling around the world.
3. Buying properties & new vehicles (cars, cruise ship etc).

On the other hand, the Mc Ocean KPs & PPs:

1. Running around from morning until late night, 7 days a week to make SALES. No time for themselves/ parents/ family/ children.
2. Hardly able to go on vacation because NO MONEY & NO TIME.
3. Health worsen, gained a lot of weight, sleep very late at night, always tired, pimples & wrinkles are popping out.
4. Selling away their things (cars, jewellery, retirement funds, investments & savings) just to make ends meet/ keep up with the Mountain of BANK LOANS.
5. Have to downsized to live in rented apartments to save money/ hide from Bank Agents.
6. Constantly get harassment calls from the bank chasing for LATE PAYMENTS.
7. Making peanut incomes (LESSER THAN RM 3,000/ MONTH) or none.
8. Borrow money from Parents/ Spouse/ Siblings/ Relatives & Friends CONSTANTLY to sustain himself/ herself to keep up with the FAKE DRAMA.

Mc Ocean always talk about REMINDING THE MEMBERS OF THEIR "BIG WHY" (Reason they join Mc Ocean)...

ASK YOURSLEVES, HOW CLOSE ARE YOU TO YOURS?
DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET ANY CLOSER TO YOUR DREAMS, KEEPING THIS UP?

WHY ARE YOU CELEBRATING FOR THE ONES THAT PUT YOU IN SUCH MISERY?

Deep down, you all know that the above are happening. Stop feeding the TOP of the Pyramid, Stop Lying to the public and Start Taking Charge Of Your Own Life AGAIN.

You are NOT A LOSER QUITTING MC OCEAN.
You quit because YOU ARE BETTER THAN THE LIARS, MANIPULATORS, CHEATERS & HOME WRECKERS IN THERE.

Then could you or anyone in your shameless defend crew list down the places that you guys are having your team party every Tuesday and Friday?

It would be easier for anyone who needs an opportunity to 'change their lives'...

Awaiting your reply 

Let me share a bit about my journey. I have been in Mc ocean for more than 4 years. After i joined mco, kp ask me to resign to challenge fast. the reality that they told me is, if you can resign and work for your future, why wasting of your time on working for other people? Yes, correct. I agreed on this. So, after few months, i resigned from my job and become fulltimer in mco.
The journey was quite smooth. Everyday routine is find people, find prospects, find partners. after few months, i challenged as Challenger, CKP. A lot of people congrate me. But I didnt feel happy or excited.
The journey after Challenge, meet partners, find downlines, find sharers. Everyday was busy like hell. My KP wouldnt help at all. He said this is your job as a ckp. I letting you do this is to train you. build you. if i do everything for you, you cant learn. And i agree, ok. I do everything.
the journey as ckp was full of activities, when my friends ask me to yumcha, i rejected. because they are not qualified SP. KP always told me dont spend your time with those unqualified people. I listen. Everyday, i wake up 7am and start to text my downline, ask what they are doing today, any warm up, any help needed?
by 12pm, i have my personal warm up, hoping to complete as KP fast. I dont want to be the rolling ckp. Rolling CKP means those people who become ckp for more than 3 months and still cannot complete as KP. (Nowadays, it is very normal.) Last time, we dont have such rolling ckp.
few months of ckp, my income was quite less. i was so angry when the first month i need to do maintanance where i dont know what is that. I feel im cheated! but eventually my kp successfully brain wash me. he said if today you are earning 8k, what is 1.8k maintanance? that is nothing what. But he didnt tell me, if today im earning 2k, what is 1.8k maintance? Some of us, earning so less and hardly pass the day, we have to share food, have to eat bread kosong everyday and sometimes, we (CKP) are so hungry and we go to shopping center eat those sample food given.
after few months of hard work, i become KP! finally! im a bit happy and exciting. waiting for my income. my kp told me 20k as a kp! when first month i got my income, WOW! amazing! it is not even 10k. But to me, it looks like 20k! you know why? after few months of 0 income, 4k of income will looks like 20k to everyone! KP told me, this is first month, the next coming few month, your income will increase. So, I waited and I do the job as KP, motivate those negative partners, ask them to do wu and everything. I go out from my house 7am, and come back on 2/3am. This is my routine life. You must be asking why right. Simple, 7am we must go out to find partners to do planning, for those partner who are so enegitic to run business but no time, I meet them on the morning breakfast time. then they start working on 9/10am. I start to travel to another place to meet 2nd partner/prospect/go to oldtown fulltimer gathering.
then around 2pm to 6pm, have to do a lot of things like calling the partners, sourcing, asking for updates, learning for MNU presentation/raya presentation/any onstage presentation/any coming activities.
then 7pm to 12am is office time/team party time. this is the time to support partners, sharing to con more people come in. then 12am onward, ask the downline for updates, anything need help or planning. 1 downline will take around 2 hours for planing, can you imagine if you have 10 downlines? that means 20 hours of planning. How to get that 20 hours, easy, sleep late!
So, my journey in mco, i never have time to go cinema, no time to watch movie, no time to go gym(that's why you can see all the kps are so fat), no time to do anything you like. and no time for family as well. Weekend is the best time to con quality prospect! Why? because those quality prospect only free on weekend! This is my busy time, Prince Sxxtxxh always told me this is your money making time. dont waste it with family! You can spend time with family when you see 6 digit income. Dont quit before seeing 6 digit income.

After few years of become kp, my income never hit 20k, sometimes, it hit 10k, i was very happy with that. but overall, my average income as a kp in mco is around 3k-4k. why? when i hit 10k, that is the income for 4 months! do you think that is a lot？and the worst part is, we cannot tell anyone about our income, and those sp are expecting kp to belanja eat, belanja drinks. can you imagine that im earning less than 3k, but you asking me to belanja you? that is ridiculous! those sp are doing this business part time, earning 6k in job, and in mco, maybe 1k/2k. You are richer than KP!

Finally, I think this is not a good life, before mco, i was earning 6k every month in job, and my job is 9am -6pm without OT. After work, i can hang out with friends or go to gym. But, after mco, i dont have life!
Now, come to the most amazing part, I been 4 years in MC-ocean, MLM, fulltime. It is super hard to get a job without experience. What can i write on my CV? 4 years doing MLM? and now have to restart everything again? I'm 31 now, I have to accept everything to restart again and taking the salary of 3k as fresh graduate? Expecially in this era of everyone is jobless.

conclusion, mco really ruin my life! imagine if i didnt quite my job, i was getting 6k salary, after 4 years, i might hitting more than 7k. but because of mco, my salary goes back to 3k! anyone of you can share what do you do after mco?

The life and truth about KP Padma

As many of you may have already heard, Kp Padma died in a tragic accident yesterday while working at Mc Ocean founder's plantation in Terengganu.

Back when I was still in the business, my KP would tee up about him like a freaking warrior-God.

a) He's only a dishwasher you know but he also can become KP...what's your excuse?

b) Mc Ocean saved his life! From only earning so little to get by, he now earns more than 20K a month!

c) If a dishwasher can find the means to put SP money, don't tell you cannot?


I think today, it is apparent how Mc Ocean actually ruined his life instead. If he was still a dishwasher, perhaps he would still be alive today and his unborn baby wouldn't be left orphaned.
THE REALITY IS THIS...

He borrowed money and pawned tons of gold to find the capital to become an SP. After a year in the business, he became a KP and thought he could settle all his debts. Oh myy, wasn't he wrong? He had ZERO sales, NO network and barely made any money as a KP. So he had no choice but to work in SD office as a management staff.

As you know, few KPs actually choose to work in management as well. When asked why your own KPs would have rationalised and said its because they wanted to give back to Mc Ocean...bla bla bla. BUT the truth is, those KPs network has collapsed. They have no sales and to survive they take a basic admin job with a salary of not more than 3K.

What a hypocrite!

Back to KP Padma,

He was then asked by the founder 3 years ago to take care of his plantation (which he bought using OUR money, btw). This is where my blood really boils!
If you are a millionaire as you claim, then WHY COULDN'T YOU HIRE SOMEONE WITH ACTUAL EXPERIENCE IN RUNNING A PLANTATION? or at least hire more help! It's a HUGEEE hundred of acre land. He died helping Pe@rs@n Ch@a through the money the founder exploited.

If he hadn't found Mc Ocean, his life might have been so different now.

For one, he would have PEACE and having no one CHASE him around for the money he owed.

Pe@rs@n Ch@a, his beloved wife and Mc Ocean better pay the family some sort of compensation for what happened to KP Padma. He died while serving this God-forsaken company.
Rest in peace, Kp Padma.

He was ran down by the 4WD he drove to work at Mr.P's new land. The vehicle got problem and he tried to fix it, the vehicle started but ran him down.

His true story is really a pitiful one...

Heard about Mc Ocean, believing that "it will change his life for the better". He pawned all his gold and use his house as leverage to borrow money to accumulate RM 35,000 to become an Star Premier.

Became a Knight Premier in 1 year, but NO 5 FIGURE INCOME AS PROMISED. Had to sell his house, work as an admin in MIDEA Office and stay in the KL Office's 3rd floor.

Now lost his life, leaving his wife to fend for herself and a soon-to-be orphaned child.

Can see how much his life was ruined BECAUSE OF MC OCEAN. I felt really sorry for him.

Clarification Statement:
We observe that the words quoted in many posts by forum users are WRONG, NOT correct. Or has been misunderstood, or, intentionally to mislead the public.
Maintenance Fee=WRONG, this is NOT a fee.
The CORRECT meaning in most of the direct-selling marketing plan is – Monthly Products Repeat Sales Maintenance.
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We do not wish to go into lengthy explanation of this direct-selling concept in this forum.
Any query, please email to McOcean Management:
mcocean.hq@mcocean.com, or,
director@mcocean.com

Thank you.

Clarification Statement:

We do not wish to go into lengthy explanation of this direct-selling concept in this forum.
Any query, please email to McOcean Management:
mcocean.hq@mcocean.com, or,
director@mcocean.com

Thank you.

Clarification Statement: Incentive Trip to Russia
We observe that the words quoted in many posts by forum users are baseless accusation, and NOT correct. Or intentionally to mislead the public that company is not trustworthy.
*The Sales Period criteria was set for the Products Sales done from 2018-July to 2019-February bonus period. We do not wish to go into lengthy explanation of this incentive trip in this forum.

The said incentive trip has since been finalised, and the process of verifying Confirmation from Qualifiers and Copy of their Passport for Group Booking already in-progress since 3 months ago. We wish all the qualifiers have a pleasant and joyful trip to Russia in October-2019.


Those ex-members would obviously do not know the information of any latest development of the company. They are always welcome to update any info.
If any member, or ex-member, who has misunderstood that he/she has qualified for the trip, please contact The McOcean Management direct.

We thank and grateful to Lowyat.net forum for giving us the opportunity to clarify any incorrect info posted by forum users.

Any query, please email to McOcean Management:
mcocean.hq@mcocean.com, or,
director@mcocean.com
Thank you.

After a few weeks of reading in this Lowyat Forum, I decided to share my own story to the public.     
I joined mco more than one year. My friend brought me into this business and left! I'm the blessed one, and my KP keeps helping me until I challenge.
When I was CKP, my KP no longer helping me, she just put me aside, and I have to ask for help from sidelines. So lucky that still a lot of sidelines willing to help me, as the exchange, I help them to do much sharing and training to their downline. Mcocean is an exchange business, if you are valuable, don't worry, a lot of people willing to help you. Because they know they will need your help in future. 

8 months of rolling as a CKP, I was broke like hell. By that time, I know why many partners like to consume products because you have nothing to eat but only products!
Enertri + Alkurna as breakfast as it gives energy,
Lunch with downlines, I said I ate, let's focus on planning instead of eating.
Enertime+EnerXcel as teatime as it taste sweet,
Enerfiber + Enerbest as dinner.
Supper with downlines and takes their food.
I survived as a CKP for more than 6 months with income less than RM2000 after minus the maintenance payment of RM1800.

I told myself, Is ok, a good day will come! Amen. It is just temporary. I can enjoy my RM20k income when I become KP! I was fighting hard to achieve the title of Knight Premier.
8 months pass, My result was almost close to becoming KP! I was happy and excited, but I still lack 1 SP to complete. It was 25th, and I still got 6 days to fight for sales! I find all my downline and planning with them, to check if anyone can be follow up, even become a DP (RM10K) also ok.

The closing date is coming soon; I still unable to find the needed SP. My up up up upline KP go to me, ask if I want to complete KP?
OF COURSE, I WANT!
I EVEN DREAM OF IT EVERYDAY! 
RM20K IS IN MY DREAM, I EVEN THINKING WHAT CAN I DO WITH THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY. 

That up up up upline KP told me, actually I can loan another 33k and pump into the last SP, and after I completed KP, I can find another replacement to this account. Then he calculates to me, what is the differences in income of SP and KP. (There is no position of CKP in the marketing plan, so the income of CKP same as the income of SP). After he did the calculation, I decided to go to a bank and take another 33k to qualify myself as a KP.

By the end of the month, I pumped in the 33k by using my sibling's name and IC. The next month, I'm a fully qualified KP standing on stage and receiving the flowers from all my downlines, taking photos with all the sidelines, promising them that I will be work harder to help them. 

A month passed, I get my first income, wow! It is 6K! I was so happy, (Afterall, it is still better than 0.) That 6k was coming from my pumped sibling account and 1st generation money.

Next month, I did maintenance, and on 15th of the month, I open my computer and login into mcocean account, I check the income statement, why 0? I was shocked, and check if I logged in the wrong account, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, I saw my name, I saw my title as a KP, I rubbed my eyes and see again, the words remain "KP". However, when I click on my income statement, why it is O? 

My KP told me because you are new, it is ok. Income will be increasing.   

Third Month, AGAIN! 0! I skip 1000000 of those bad words here. 

Forth Month, AGAIN AND AGAIN? RM0? HOW COME? ANYONE CAN TELL ME WHY? 

When I joined Mcocean, I blinded with the KP income of 20k per month. They make us close the eyes and think, what we wan to do with this 20k? After one year of fighting, running, never give up, I get 0! It is worst than employment! I put in 70k++( RM2289+RM33k x 2 ) to run an illegal MLM business where GPS form mentioned we are not under MCOCEAN but another unregistered distribution arm. After years of fighting, I gain nothing but blame from family, friends, colleagues, and everyone!

I lost money,
I lost my friends,
I lost my close friends,
I lost my family,
I lost my job,
I lost all!

I attached my latest statement to all of you, and please be careful before you join this company. They are worst than Amway as they have no direct selling license at all. 

If one day, You found that my post deleted, my account closed, Please look for me. 

Mcocean people are after me, and I'm not afraid of your lawyer letter from an untitled lawyer. 

Please be good and mercy, karma will come if you keep cheating on people. Amen.   

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