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vk9545
post Sep 19 2012, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Sep 19 2012, 09:56 AM)
I dont know if such information can be reveald publicly. But what u can do is just ask if it's possible transfer credit from xxx university or yyy college.

What matters is MQA accreditation. JPA uses MQA list, so they will follow suite. However, MQA only covers local institutions, while JPA also covers overseas. Bottom line is, JPA's local list should be exactly the same with MQA's, but they also have ovrsea list, MQA doesnt.

MQA maintains the standard. If something is not accredited by MQA, u can easily conclude that it is below standard. JPA on the other is just for sponsorship and government job placement.
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Um/upm/ukm/utm/upsi/uiam offers degree for diploma holders in tesl education..
So what your saying is i just call the ipta's above mention that offer degree relavent to my course.. And ask them that im from msu and studied diploma education in tesl and tell them my cgpa and muet results and ask them that i can credit transfer or not? Is it so sir?
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QUOTE(vk9545 @ Sep 19 2012, 07:22 AM)
Um/upm/ukm/utm/upsi/uiam offers degree for diploma holders in tesl education..
So what your saying is i just call the ipta's above mention that offer degree relavent to my course.. And ask them that im from msu and studied diploma education in tesl and tell them my cgpa and muet results and ask them that i can credit transfer or not? Is it so sir?
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yes.
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post Sep 20 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Sep 19 2012, 03:56 PM)
yes.
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Sir is it true that utm/ukm/um/usm/upm were given the autonomy in managing their own student intakes? how does it work sir? can you explain for me? thanks biggrin.gif
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post Sep 20 2012, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(vk9545 @ Sep 20 2012, 05:20 AM)
Sir is it true that utm/ukm/um/usm/upm were given the autonomy in managing their own student intakes? how does it work sir? can you explain for me? thanks  biggrin.gif
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yes, it's true. but how does it work? well, literally each university is given a whole list of applicants, and we can choose based on whatever category or criteria that we please. it would also mean if this year we only wanna take 3.75 above, there's nothing a 3.74 could do even if there's 3-4 places still empty.

UPU will not interfere in the selection process. they just manage it.
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post Sep 20 2012, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(vk9545 @ Sep 14 2012, 05:48 PM)
Thanks alot..ur a big help..and you really made me more motivated..i dnt mind if Couldn't credit transfer also..as long as i get entrance to ipta for my degree in tesl course i dont mind..as i don't want to burden my parents any more by studying at ipts and keeP on burning holes in their pockets.

So your saying i will get a chance provided that i have Excellent results in accedemic wise..and ur suggesting me to call the university and ask them straight away is it?
yes. dont let yourself down k.

azarimy have given a better reply.

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post Sep 20 2012, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Sep 20 2012, 02:29 PM)
yes, it's true. but how does it work? well, literally each university is given a whole list of applicants, and we can choose based on whatever category or criteria that we please. it would also mean if this year we only wanna take 3.75 above, there's nothing a 3.74 could do even if there's 3-4 places still empty.

UPU will not interfere in the selection process. they just manage it.
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i see..how the universities given the list of application sir?by upu is it? and further more, it means the university will only set and control the intake grading.. like cgpa of stpm/metric and diploma to enter the course n uni it so sir?? how upu will manage it sir? till now not many understands how upu operates right sir? so the ipts diploma applications are usually managed by the university it self or by upu sir?


Added on September 20, 2012, 3:48 pm
QUOTE(lord_anju @ Sep 20 2012, 02:49 PM)
yes. dont let yourself down k.

azarimy have given a better reply.
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thanks lord_anju.. and between are you a government servant or lecturer?

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post Sep 20 2012, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(vk9545 @ Sep 20 2012, 07:46 AM)
i see..how the universities given the list of application sir?by upu is it? and further more, it means the university will only set and control the intake grading.. like cgpa of stpm/metric and diploma to enter the course n uni it so sir?? how upu will manage it sir? till now not many understands how upu operates right sir? so the ipts diploma applications are usually managed by the university it self or by upu sir?

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for universities with autonomy, this is what will happen:

first of all, prospective students will submit their applications to UPU via online.

UPU will sort the names according to their choices. then the list will be sent to the respective universities. from here on, the university will select their choice of students based on their own criteria. the they will return two lists to UPU: the final list and the backup list.

UPU will then process the list and send out the offers to the finalists. if any of them rejected, there will be an empty slot. if u click the "appeal" button, the computer will look for ur name in the backup list. but if ur name is not in the backup list, u wont get the call even if the backup list have been exhausted.

when sorting ur name, they will sort based on the highest offer. if ur 1st choice rejected u, they will look into ur 2nd choice. if that also rejected u, they will look further down.

this will happen for diploma as well, but i'm not exactly clear how it is run by UPU.

hope this clears things abit.
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post Sep 23 2012, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Sep 20 2012, 10:04 PM)
for universities with autonomy, this is what will happen:

first of all, prospective students will submit their applications to UPU via online.

UPU will sort the names according to their choices. then the list will be sent to the respective universities. from here on, the university will select their choice of students based on their own criteria. the they will return two lists to UPU: the final list and the backup list.

UPU will then process the list and send out the offers to the finalists. if any of them rejected, there will be an empty slot. if u click the "appeal" button, the computer will look for ur name in the backup list. but if ur name is not in the backup list, u wont get the call even if the backup list have been exhausted.

when sorting ur name, they will sort based on the highest offer. if ur 1st choice rejected u, they will look into ur 2nd choice. if that also rejected u, they will look further down.

this will happen for diploma as well, but i'm not exactly clear how it is run by UPU.

hope this clears things abit.
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Oh i see thanks sir...do you know anything about the teaching courses? I heard goverment will build more school and will make the education degree as open market.for ipta and ipts student to compete.what does that mean sir?and i heard they need minimum 3.0cgpa for intake of education degree students for teaching career..do you know anything about this sir? And any1 around here have any in sights on this matter?
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post Sep 26 2012, 09:20 AM

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long before this, all teachers must take a diploma perguruan before teaching. even if they already have a non-teaching degree (professional degrees like civil engineering, accountancy etc), they still need to spend some time to go through teacher training. and these are specially trained at maktab perguruan or specific faculties in a university.

it was controlled by IPTAs as the government wants full control over the quality of the training. IPTSs in the past was notorious for its focus on profits, so the government didnt want any of that.

but there are a few IPTSs that have shown that although they are profit oriented, they are also honourable, prestigious and focused on the quality as well. i believe under this notion the government are now allowing courses that were almost entirely exclusive to IPTAs now to be open to all.

and yes, if u're talking about education (urself or educating others), the minimum should be 3.00cgpa.
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post Oct 9 2012, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Sep 26 2012, 09:20 AM)
long before this, all teachers must take a diploma perguruan before teaching. even if they already have a non-teaching degree (professional degrees like civil engineering, accountancy etc), they still need to spend some time to go through teacher training. and these are specially trained at maktab perguruan or specific faculties in a university.

it was controlled by IPTAs as the government wants full control over the quality of the training. IPTSs in the past was notorious for its focus on profits, so the government didnt want any of that.

but there are a few IPTSs that have shown that although they are profit oriented, they are also honourable, prestigious and focused on the quality as well. i believe under this notion the government are now allowing courses that were almost entirely exclusive to IPTAs now to be open to all.

and yes, if u're talking about education (urself or educating others), the minimum should be 3.00cgpa.
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Yes sir your right, and i came across article from our deputy prime minister and education minister that they made bachelor education as open market degree and appointing any private or public uni students as teachers if they have a qualification of cgpa3.00 and above to have a better quality teacher and good competitiveness.


Added on October 9, 2012, 4:01 pm
QUOTE(azarimy @ Sep 26 2012, 09:20 AM)
long before this, all teachers must take a diploma perguruan before teaching. even if they already have a non-teaching degree (professional degrees like civil engineering, accountancy etc), they still need to spend some time to go through teacher training. and these are specially trained at maktab perguruan or specific faculties in a university.

it was controlled by IPTAs as the government wants full control over the quality of the training. IPTSs in the past was notorious for its focus on profits, so the government didnt want any of that.

but there are a few IPTSs that have shown that although they are profit oriented, they are also honourable, prestigious and focused on the quality as well. i believe under this notion the government are now allowing courses that were almost entirely exclusive to IPTAs now to be open to all.

and yes, if u're talking about education (urself or educating others), the minimum should be 3.00cgpa.
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Sir i need to inquire another one more thing. I came across in the upu website that to pursue um/upm/ukm/utm first degree minimum requirement using ipts or ipta diploma is 3.00 with muet band 4 and upsi is 2.50 and band 3. Is it the final requirement or the uni will change it time to time without informing? few of my friends told me its safe if you have 3.50 and above with muet band 4 and above. So you can secure a place, and one of my friend told me upm need minimum 3.50cgpa and muet band 4 and above to accept diploma ipts/ipta students but when i checked in upm and upu website their minimum was 3.00 and band 4 muet for diploma ipts/ipta students. How is this works sir? Kinda confused. Hope you can explain it to me. Thanks sir.


Added on October 18, 2012, 7:20 am
QUOTE(azarimy @ Sep 26 2012, 09:20 AM)
long before this, all teachers must take a diploma perguruan before teaching. even if they already have a non-teaching degree (professional degrees like civil engineering, accountancy etc), they still need to spend some time to go through teacher training. and these are specially trained at maktab perguruan or specific faculties in a university.

it was controlled by IPTAs as the government wants full control over the quality of the training. IPTSs in the past was notorious for its focus on profits, so the government didnt want any of that.

but there are a few IPTSs that have shown that although they are profit oriented, they are also honourable, prestigious and focused on the quality as well. i believe under this notion the government are now allowing courses that were almost entirely exclusive to IPTAs now to be open to all.

and yes, if u're talking about education (urself or educating others), the minimum should be 3.00cgpa.
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sir i also need to ask you
iii. Dokumen berketerangan sendiri yang ditetapkan (seperti arahan semasa memohon) dihantar ke IPTA pilihan;
iv.Perakuan oleh JK Akademik IPTA;
what does this two documents mean sir?

please reply me sir. its been a while you didn't reply. but i do understand that your busy with your work. do help me out when you find the time. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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