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post Jul 23 2012, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 23 2012, 12:58 AM)
The bold part is what I'm asking. if the rev is matched, then should be the same as double clutch right?
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blink.gif lost of word. Never was asked with these question before. Let me just put it on my experience and explain to you why I choose double D

Scenario 1: Taking sweet time cruising about 80km/h on a free way, suddenly dugong infront sloe down and block my way. I touch my brake, hit the clutch and free the gear. Observe how dugong react... he's not doing anything, clutch in, rev up(if traveling speed too fast, otherwise no need to rev up) and punch in gear, declutch and smoke dugong (double clutch)

Scenario 2: Taking sweet time cruising about 80km/h on a free way, suddenly dugong speed past from the left lane. Tu 9 lan, clutch in, rev up, punch gear, declutch BEM! again clutch in, rev up, punch 3rd gear, declutch BEM! 6krpm go catch dugong (2 times single clutch)

However, during track day only heel & toe and single clutch. No time for double clutch.
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post Jul 23 2012, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 23 2012, 01:13 AM)
OOOOoooo okok. I understand now. Then yea I did double declutch before when driving my MT iswara. didn't know that it was called double declutch  tongue.gif

coz in wikipedia double declutch is described that:
my impression that it is lightning fast, then I thought why the heck wanna clutch twice  hmm.gif
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Err... actual driving that time not that sloe geh. Its like you look at dugong, you know immediately to double D or just slam 9 the gas pedal without releasing clutch then become single clutch ady sweat.gif

Now is like, got so obsessed with double D since infected by lhwj virus yawn.gif
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post Jul 23 2012, 06:38 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 23 2012, 03:40 AM)
How to review a car in an incredibly boring manner  laugh.gif


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Dis car only have 3000 kilometers
Da 4 windoes are power
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Kriang! (follow by door close)
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1.3litre engine.
Ngek ngek ngek....(tensioner KO)
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post Jul 23 2012, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(langatian @ Jul 23 2012, 07:31 AM)
For FLX manual owner, what your RPM at 90km/h?
Coz my RPM stick 3k at 90km/h. Lousy gearbox ratio by aichi kikai.

Can i claimed for new gearbox eventhough its not faulty yet?
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sweat.gif you use the term"not faulty YET"

Don't think they allow you to claim when its not faulty. Besides, claim warranty is more likely allowed you to get free repair/restore to its original status, unless its beyond repair, they replace with a used/test/showroom unit which is same model as yours. If none of these resolve, finally they'll consider to ugrade your gear box, which is highly unlikely. Give CoSE a call & tell them your gear box got funny whinning noise when down hill. Tell them its intermiten, sometimes got sometimes don't to prevent them from troubleshoot. This is standard issue in gearbox result in bad assembly, causes gear bearing wear off premature. Repair cost is freaking expansive, up to thousand bucks. This may stand a better chance to get your gear box change.

Bear in mind, changing a gear box may not neccessarily a good thing. You may get an "oiled" clutch during the transplant. The "new" gear box could be troublesome. In my opinion, if its not broken, why fix it? Just live with the blardy gearbox nod.gif
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post Jul 23 2012, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 23 2012, 09:51 AM)
3k RPM at 90km/h  blink.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif

Even if you claim new geaarbox you'll get the same one with the same gear ratio, unless your clutch was slipping kaw kaw causing the RPM to shoot up  laugh.gif . FLX manual gearbox from Getrag btw, not Aichi Kikai anymore.

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hmm.gif that's what I tot also

Meanwhile, dares TS can help to organize bulk for cabin filter? RM12/unit. Can do on the spot DIY during TT. Usual price RM20/pc + RM8 delivery. Latest promo buy 2 free 1. So I guess bulk price is the cheapest ady. You do the math lar.
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post Jul 23 2012, 10:46 AM

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Air con cabin pilter main purpose is to block smaller object/fine dust being blown directly to cooling coil. Originally GaGa designed to use 1 paper filter + 1 recycable pollen filter. Objective to have 2 paper filter instead of 1 is to filter vapor & trap excessive dust being penetrated through the 1st layer of paper filter.

Many understand they need to wash the pollen filter, but totally omitted pollen filter lobang is much course than paper filter. Some claim their car got dead rate smell even after change cabin filter is bcoz they didn't change the paper filter. When any wap air trapped on the paper filter(human slime) that will cause bau mayat when aircon start up. Also, normal aircon cooling coil bocor is bcoz it was rusted by interior vapor from human breathe/saliva spit by wife when they shout don't drive fast. Paper filter is there to stop this from rusting your cooling coil.

Time I purchased my BLM was 14k mileage, pollen filter was cleaned, but suffer from dead fish smell. I purchased cabin filter for RM28+shipping, solved the problem. After a month, I replaced pollen filter with 2nd unit paper filter. Now after 10k mileaged standing at 24k, I planned to change them again and to introduce this gooding to fellow GaGa members. Small price to pay, better cabin air quality. Less dust, less sick. According to some other review, normally cabin filter can last atleast 9 month, I'm just being lansily take care of my young family, that's why I change it often.

Minimum order 3 nia. I ady took 2 tongue.gif more the marrier la ofcoz. Very fast can arrange TT liao I guess icon_idea.gif
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post Jul 23 2012, 11:43 AM

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Dares GaGa = VAN (as he claimed)

As for cabin filter, its entirely up to you. Its only 12 bucks, equal to 10 teh tarek, or pack of dunhill + milo ais. Better if you open up the glove compartment and check how bad the air conjestion is. Even if no bad, buy 1st keep it also can mar, still better than later buy retail pay double price.
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post Jul 23 2012, 12:22 PM

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Couldn't post further detail/pictures until midnight/tomorow morning. Glove compartment, cabut oni. Inside is the blower, got 1 rectangular cover, open up is the pollen filter, take out pollen filter, beneath is the paper filter. I changed the paper filter initially, thenreplaced the pollen filter with paper filter also. Therefore ma kar got 2x paper filter instead laugh.gif

To those who expecting magic after paper filter being replaced, sorry to tell you no such thing. Only placebo effect I heard/read is aircon no longer sejuk, which indeed is placebo effect. If check with the wind meter(can't remeber what it called), the amount of CFM is exactly the same with pollen filter compare with paper filter. The only difference is paper can filter human slime, pollen doesn't. Down side is, paper did filter job toooooooo well, bloweer wind quickly get conjested. Now this is the real effect when aircond wind become low. Need to take out the filter & dust it from time to time.

So, 0 effect. Aircond won't feel colder. Smell can be reduce or eleminate. But 1 thing for sure, the total amount of dust kena trapped after 1st layer of paper filter is amazingly much. I ady took off my 2nd layer replaced back with pollen, just to show you how horrible it is.
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post Jul 23 2012, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Jul 23 2012, 12:43 PM)
bring it on ! i already standby my remedy  brows.gif
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No need all those poison for now. But, please do standby 150 in future few months time nod.gif FSB not only for attack corner, it provide proper platform for the shock absorber to travel enough, so your car handle better. We also heard many testimoneal from FSB/RSB/Room bar that save lifes during massive road accidents. Besides of all that, FSB plays an important role to keep your chassis in shape. 1 must understand chassis flex is 1 thing, long term punishing/stretching strut tower is another thing. FSB is there to keep the 2 towers distance in place.

You may not listen to those poison right now, just enjoy your new car 1st. Besides, even if you pasang now, you'll feel very minimum effect since you have not familiarize with your car yet. Everything is good & sufficient, so just enjoy what you've paid for the time being. Until you decided, come test drive our car before get poisoned thumbup.gif
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post Jul 23 2012, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Jul 23 2012, 01:06 PM)
dave, im not sure i wanna go join TT. got commitment
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No need to COMMIT to TT, I bet once in a blue moon can apply leave from harimau betina geh. U married, I'm married, r3p3rs married with a pregnant wife sumore. U got kids, I got kids, r3p3rs also got(not sure already or soon to be). TT is for social, get to know each other. Poison a bit, no obligation. I told my harimau betina if dun allow me go TT I will sell off BLM, Wiga, and LMST let her drive Iswaga without power steering brows.gif

Ma waifu also dun allow me to modify BLM, but now she's taking corners like no tomolo shakehead.gif She dunno what I did to the car, but then as long as she's safe, I'm safe. Normally weekend she did all the driving. I oso hope too further improve ma BLM to be a better family saloon car. Soon will be noise insulation poison! If you're interested lar brows.gif
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post Jul 23 2012, 01:57 PM

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blink.gif they do call me Dave when I was in Africa

QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jul 23 2012, 01:27 PM)
ur waifu never ask u why the car suddenly so nice to dive?  laugh.gif
omg...
noise insulator going poison me deeply...
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Nope, she's getting good at it. 1st time she drove after RSB+FSB, my right side panel gone. Steering too sensitib, she use the road curb to polish my side panel sad.gif She did suspect originally, keep asking whether I change spring - nope, change absorber - nope, change tayar - nope, change rim - nope, like you didn't see it, change engine - I wish, since she didn't spoke about FSB/RSB, I've denied all that she mentioned. So I'm not lie whistling.gif

Am putting my GaGa as guinea pig now to use other material that resist heat + noise deadening. Once gao dim will invite few qualified GaGaer to test ride, if all ok then arrange bulk.

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jul 23 2012, 01:27 PM)
unker dave, bini2ku gengster?
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Takisah betapa gangsta, harimau tetap hari-hari mau, lu jgn kasi. Nanti dia hungry lu mau TT bape lama pon boley, janji lepas tu lu kasi

QUOTE(dares @ Jul 23 2012, 01:29 PM)
Lol!!  laugh.gif His wife drive BLM at 160km/h, we all like kucimiao by comparison
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She don't do that often. Speed limit at all bridges/flyover/haiwei exits. However, she's good at corner nowadays since she adapted with the FSB/RSB character.

QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jul 23 2012, 01:34 PM)
does put sticker on car is consider modding"?
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Definitely illegal sad.gif waifu made me tear off my pretty AEM door sticker sad.gif haven't even manage to snap photo
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post Jul 23 2012, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(lhwj @ Jul 23 2012, 02:01 PM)
Wait till she opens the bonnet or boot, then... jeng jeng jeng brows.gif
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Went TESCO yesterday, nothing happened whistling.gif Like dares said, she didn't even notice it. But she can tell got difference on the foot work lar, side penal ady calar, how can not notice leh shakehead.gif Now she also corner like lori driber, 1 tangan, 1 action, no adjustment until exit corner acceleration. My kid was komplening though, she was throwing left & right at the back since corner speed increased jor. Need time for her to adjust nod.gif
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post Jul 23 2012, 03:34 PM

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Air con cabin filter poison
Usual price: RM20 + RM8shipping
Market promo: RM40 = 3pcs not include shipping
Current bulk order: RM12/unit
Closing date: as soon as I get 10 in total

Advatage:
Prevent human slime that rust cooling coil
Filter micro dust
Capture vapor
Cleaner air
Loner lasting cooling system
Easy maintenance,easy pasang,easy tukar

Disadvantage:
Make you RM12 poorer
Need to check whether its dirty, otherwise aircond wind clog
No chance for you to change cooling coil every 3-4 years like most cars
Extra money save for air con repair dunno where to spend
Have to buy ikan masin put in cabin to smell dead fish
Cut down signus issue due to less microdust, pharmacy went bankrupt

Do you know when u use liquid formulated cabin deodorant, the essense oil will stick on the cooling coil fins? When that happened, the accidict oil will be covered with dust, following by rusting your coil. In the long run, your cabin air flow reduce(less efficient aircond) then you send your car for aircond serbis. Your magician took out the dusty+rusty cooling coil, wash it then pressure it with air gun to make sure no leakage, avoid R134 being pump in puteh2... Then he come & tell you cooling coil bocor, kena tukak. 2nd hen RM200, baru RM500. I tell you its not their fault(most cases). God knows the 2nd hen coil can last how long, again 1 or 2 years later magician come tell you cooling coil bocor again for the same reason!

Since the accidict human slime + fragrant oil + dust is going to clog, do you want it to clog at the RM500 cooling coil? Or the RM12 paper cabin filter. Decision is yours. Make it now!

COD DIY TT can be arrange at convenient parking space so we can all gang bang DIY together!

Dares, please add me in the list for 1 2 unit. TQVM!
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post Jul 23 2012, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Jul 23 2012, 03:38 PM)
so lah ini macam cannot use car fragrant stick-to-aircond type ? aiya. got to take out ambipure
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I didn't say canot use, later your minyak wangi company come sue me than I die lor. I was suggesting to let it clog on the paper filter instead of cooling coil. I myself using JUSCO fragrant beads, less smell, no liquid.

QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jul 23 2012, 03:38 PM)
every uncle post sure long and informative!
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Need to keep poisoning

QUOTE(mieza @ Jul 23 2012, 03:39 PM)
Eh got bulk meh.. I want to join biggrin.gif but did new car need to change Air con cabin filter..?
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Buy 1 and keep 1st lar

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jul 23 2012, 03:42 PM)
unker dave, i do really like your comment on the disadvantages : deym funny.
Q : how often do we need to check to service the cabin filter?
Q : is the self service cabin filter the same with the air-con service outside?
after this gonna check the cabin filter....
usual price rm20, but can get  only rm12.. only crazy people don't want that... hehe.. just kidding.. summore can have  practical session together gether..
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jul 23 2012, 03:47 PM)
please add me to the bulk list...

Q : how often to change cabin air filter?

me gaga olredi pass 1 year. had 2 times (last year and this year), delivering durian inside gaga. i guest the durian smell trapped inside the filter, right? because the smell stays for a few days..
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I check every month. Pull it out, dust it on the floor. Or blow it with air gun. Now 3rd month ady, decided to change it since too dirty. Even after dust on the floor still grey color

QUOTE(zeone @ Jul 23 2012, 03:51 PM)
Can confirm if promo now is like wat Bro david posted...ie buy 2 free 1 ?

If so, then pls put me down for TWO (2) units.
TQ.  thumbup.gif

ps. IINM 1 LYN seller did mention filter change interval after abt 15k Km use, dependent on air quality in car cabin. tongue.gif
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Perhaps you misunderstood. Market promotion means other people doing promotion at RM40=3pieces. Bulk order is RM12 per piece. I will see how good the reponse is, in the end if more than 20 units will try to further negotiate price flex.gif

Bear in mind, I don't make any profit besides of sacrifices petrol(on collection and delivery), time, SMS, phone calls to make it cheap and affordable for every bulk participants.
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post Jul 23 2012, 04:34 PM

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Memo: Aircond cabin filter RM12 per piece.

Not otherwise stated got free. The market promotion is other people doing buy 2 get 1 free, but paying RM40, which is still more expansive.
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post Jul 23 2012, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jul 23 2012, 04:34 PM)
so mean tarak free 1?

wonder mane tat reaper... so quiet after zha 9 meĀ  whistling.gif
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Pay RM40, you will get the deal of Buy 2 get 1 free. Or you can choose to buy 3 unit from the bulk order at price of RM36. If not buying... go corner there play sand nod.gif

QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jul 23 2012, 03:50 PM)
use natural air is the best...
everytime see a essay, sure is him...
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Some people prefer to smell fresherner than mud.

I know my essay is useful and would benefit people. Thanks for zha 9 me like r3ap3rs zha 9 u. I wish you all the best with your cooling coil brows.gif

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post Jul 23 2012, 05:25 PM

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Out of desperate, I rushed home to upload what I found in my cabin ventilation:

1) Open the casing
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2) Upper paper filter(replaced pollen filter)
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3) Lower paper filter
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4) Dusty
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5) Very dusty
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6) Very-very dusty, already turned to grey color
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7) Took this from Cari forum, the original pollen filter
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The above 1~6 are my own photos. I'm the live testimony to paper cabin filter.
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post Jul 23 2012, 05:41 PM

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Just to add this to keep the poison strong. As previously mentioned, without proper filtration to prevent vapor/human slime goes into your cooling coil, its going stick more and more dust, get harden and acidic

Normal dirty
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Very dirty
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Bang, nie takyah cuci bang, 2nd hen RM200, baru RM500 aje. Nie nanti cuci konfirm bocor lagi kena cas RM80 baru tukak.
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Cleaning in progress.... uek.... look at the human slime
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post Jul 23 2012, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jul 23 2012, 05:42 PM)
Leaf also got, this one no filter at all la... blink.gif
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Older model vehicle don't have cabin filter at all. Smarter consumer like my brother will buy those aquarium sponge, gently spread & attached it on the cooling coil before cover with casing blink.gif Luckily whole family grease monkey, otherwise I would have pay more out of nothing, every 1 or 2 year change cooling coil in my Iswaga also dunno why shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jul 23 2012, 06:09 PM)
Hi Bro...
Juz 2confirm....Which type of paper filter is involved in bulk purchase?
The one in Pic 2 (with sponge arnd edges) or that one added in Pic 3?
TQ.

Fyi me ATM using the "better" one in Pic 2.  thumbup.gif
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The no sponge 1. With sponge RM20 + RM6 postage.... can't remember 6 or 8 postage

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