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 Crafting follows an algorithm?, Wadafuq is this and is it legit?

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The Amateur Working Bee
post Jul 17 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(CloudDave @ Jul 17 2012, 04:39 PM)
Not super reliant but it's one of the few (let me reiterate FEW) joys of playing post level 60. Farming with friends is fun and all, but looking for alternative means to get gold is part of MY fun as well.  nod.gif In retrospect Pao-Man, all our assumptions are moot unless we give it a test run. Will farm for more gold to afford those plans first. Vinluv where are you?  sweat.gif
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somehow your answer doesnt seems to be related to the particular question you asked and i answer, regardless, i still believes that this is quite bull from experience, just my opinion
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post Jul 17 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(CloudDave @ Jul 17 2012, 04:39 PM)
Not super reliant but it's one of the few (let me reiterate FEW) joys of playing post level 60. Farming with friends is fun and all, but looking for alternative means to get gold is part of MY fun as well.  nod.gif In retrospect Pao-Man, all our assumptions are moot unless we give it a test run. Will farm for more gold to afford those plans first. Vinluv where are you?  sweat.gif
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Cloud bro, I suspect they're using the 1+9 analogy? do you think so?
use a calculator, press 1+9 = (keep on repeating =)
out pay attention of the result, when you add all the digits you'll get 10 (as a complete number)
now take a look at 11,22,33,44 etc results they are 9 not 10. so that could be a 10% of chances for good rolls.


Added on July 17, 2012, 4:47 pm
QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 17 2012, 04:12 PM)
before you guys start to day dream ok, let me ask you this, what is a "good" roll for each of you?

how many attirbutes there is to be rolled for an item alone?

think about this 2 factors, and tell me if you still can get good rolls for smithing

and oh yeah btw, ilvl63 > ilvl62 lol
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Mr Bee,

regarding your questions, my interest isn't about iLVL63 is better or iLVL62 is better. it's the puzzle solving joy.
and im sure there's a formula in everything. By that time with 2 options i have, choose to craft according to my pattern or sell in AH.

you too are not left out with 2 options, choose to grind as your nature bees work or whine and quit smile.gif

This post has been edited by paogiv3r: Jul 17 2012, 04:47 PM
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post Jul 17 2012, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(paogiv3r @ Jul 17 2012, 04:44 PM)
Cloud bro, I suspect they're using the 1+9 analogy? do you think so?
use a calculator, press 1+9 = (keep on repeating =)
out pay attention of the result, when you add all the digits you'll get 10 (as a complete number)
now take a look at 11,22,33,44 etc results they are 9 not 10. so that could be a 10% of chances for good rolls.


Added on July 17, 2012, 4:47 pm

Mr Bee,

regarding your questions, my interest isn't about iLVL63 is better or iLVL62 is better. it's the puzzle solving joy.
and im sure there's a formula in everything. By that time with 2 options i have, choose to craft according to my pattern or sell in AH.

you too are not left out with 2 options, choose to grind as your nature bees work or whine and quit[I] smile.gif
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LOL rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif
The Amateur Working Bee
post Jul 17 2012, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(paogiv3r @ Jul 17 2012, 04:44 PM)
Mr Bee,

regarding your questions, my interest isn't about iLVL63 is better or iLVL62 is better. it's the puzzle solving joy.
and im sure there's a formula in everything. By that time with 2 options i have, choose to craft according to my pattern or sell in AH.

you too are not left out with 2 options, choose to grind as your nature bees work or whine and quit smile.gif
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bold words for someone ignorant smile.gif

regardless, enjoy your calculations


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post Jul 17 2012, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 17 2012, 04:55 PM)
bold words for someone ignorant smile.gif

regardless, enjoy your calculations
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aiya bro, we all lyn kaki, i tease you only la, i know you got your valid points
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post Jul 17 2012, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(paogiv3r @ Jul 17 2012, 05:10 PM)
aiya bro, we all lyn kaki, i tease you only la, i know you got your valid points
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Ya! Feel the love bee-man. cool2.gif

Anyway, am back to farming in the game to afford those plans unless Vinluv wakes up.
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post Jul 17 2012, 10:46 PM

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are there any vb guys here? I can point you some decompiled code d3advanced.

Also no idea what i am doing in game... Just screwing around

This post has been edited by VinluV: Jul 17 2012, 10:49 PM
Kissan
post Jul 17 2012, 10:59 PM

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TS you can test by crafting low level item if you wanna know the result.

Then tell us the result in your stream. I bet a lot of ppl will watch it. XD
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so anyone have tried this out? smile.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 12:12 AM

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Lol anyone realistic would know that this is a pipe dream.

7 years ago(not sure, but during my teenage years),me and some ppl from Code Breakers Club tried almost the same thing with Pokemon breeding.
Wanted to know what factors effect the eggs, specifically the clock time.

Gameboy was hexadecimal, and they cant figure out sh1t.What makes you think you can figure out diablo 3?
Provided that we were just some snotty wannabes, I think I made my point.

Not saying you wont find out anything, but things like specific time to craft just make me lol.
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post Jul 18 2012, 12:33 AM

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personally think that is not possible
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post Jul 18 2012, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Jul 18 2012, 12:12 AM)
Lol anyone realistic would know that this is a pipe dream.

7 years ago(not sure, but during my teenage years),me and some ppl from Code Breakers Club tried almost the same thing with Pokemon breeding.
Wanted to know what factors effect the eggs, specifically the clock time.

Gameboy was hexadecimal, and they cant figure out sh1t.What makes you think you can figure out diablo 3?
Provided that we were just some snotty wannabes, I think I made my point.

Not saying you wont find out anything, but things like specific time to craft just make me lol.
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Lol. why u pour cold water at him. We MUST encourage him to try it himself brows.gif brows.gif

btw TS, if you short on gold on your experiment, you know who to pm.. brows.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Jul 18 2012, 12:12 AM)
Lol anyone realistic would know that this is a pipe dream.

7 years ago(not sure, but during my teenage years),me and some ppl from Code Breakers Club tried almost the same thing with Pokemon breeding.
Wanted to know what factors effect the eggs, specifically the clock time.

Gameboy was hexadecimal, and they cant figure out sh1t.What makes you think you can figure out diablo 3?
Provided that we were just some snotty wannabes, I think I made my point.

Not saying you wont find out anything, but things like specific time to craft just make me lol.
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this^

most games with refiners and shit breeds such ppl for some reasons
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post Jul 18 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Kissan @ Jul 18 2012, 12:43 AM)
Lol. why u pour cold water at him. We MUST encourage him to try it himself  brows.gif  brows.gif

btw TS, if you short on gold on your experiment, you know who to pm.. brows.gif
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Hahaha, now only 2.5 million gold in the bank. Slowly working up to it. I didn't know LYN D3 forum also got loan sharks ya. Garang! sweat.gif
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post Jul 18 2012, 11:25 AM

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lol... baseless assumptions.
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post Jul 18 2012, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Kissan @ Jul 18 2012, 12:43 AM)
Lol. why u pour cold water at him. We MUST encourage him to try it himself  brows.gif  brows.gif

btw TS, if you short on gold on your experiment, you know who to pm.. brows.gif
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mind to tell me who ? brows.gif brows.gif
Kissan
post Jul 19 2012, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(ghoss @ Jul 18 2012, 02:51 PM)
mind to tell me who ?  brows.gif  brows.gif
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whistling.gif whistling.gif definitely not me
biatche
post Jul 20 2012, 02:35 PM

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for those of you who enjoy cracking.... there's something i'd like to figure out..

loot drops.

playing with 360% mf buffed... and farming and farming.. i noticed a pattern in drops

there are certain ?times? or ?server? where it'd keep dropping

1. mass 63's OR mass 50's (even in act 3) OR mass 61's .... etc... and they drop ALL at once. it's pretty obvious you'll just see many white, blue, yellow 63's, far far more than the rest... else mass 50's and nearly no 60's. I'm 100% sure this isn't RNG.
2. horrible quality.... else one day out of 2 weeks like that it'd keep dropping high valued gear.
3. stats.... there'd be times where it'd keep having the MF stat on loots, or +armor.. the +armor was very very obvious after 1.0.3 patch.
4. set/legend gear. if i keep dropping set gear, my friends will as well.
5. i still remember a couple of days ago. so many rings.... and then another day... full of amulets...

its very hard to believe its RNG. when the mobs drop the loot, you'd see a lot of similarities in what they drop at each one time.

i'm trying to understand what is actually triggering this effect... is it time? number of kills? ....
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QUOTE(biatche @ Jul 20 2012, 02:35 PM)
for those of you who enjoy cracking.... there's something i'd like to figure out..

loot drops.

playing with 360% mf buffed... and farming and farming.. i noticed a pattern in drops

there are certain ?times? or ?server? where it'd keep dropping

1. mass 63's OR mass 50's (even in act 3) OR mass 61's .... etc... and they drop ALL at once. it's pretty obvious you'll just see many white, blue, yellow 63's, far far more than the rest... else mass 50's and nearly no 60's. I'm 100% sure this isn't RNG.
2. horrible quality.... else one day out of 2 weeks like that it'd keep dropping high valued gear.
3. stats.... there'd be times where it'd keep having the MF stat on loots, or +armor.. the +armor was very very obvious after 1.0.3 patch.
4. set/legend gear. if i keep dropping set gear, my friends will as well.
5. i still remember a couple of days ago. so many rings.... and then another day... full of amulets...

its very hard to believe its RNG. when the mobs drop the loot, you'd see a lot of similarities in what they drop at each one time.

i'm trying to understand what is actually triggering this effect... is it time? number of kills? ....
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I believe its the internal 'suggester system', which you can also see in the AH 'suggested items' section.(at least I believe its one and the same)
Basically its a mix of what stats you are currently stacking and what you are currently lacking.

This also consentient with progressing with 'no twinking' rule (which the dev said they did)

As for types of item frequency, I have no idea.I did once get 6 hellion crossbows in 1 run once.It was weird. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Jul 20 2012, 02:52 PM)
I believe its the internal 'suggester system', which you can also see in the AH 'suggested items' section.(at least I believe its one and the same)
Basically its a mix of what stats you are currently stacking and what you are currently lacking.

This also consentient with progressing with 'no twinking' rule (which the dev said they did)

As for types of item frequency, I have no idea.I did once get 6 hellion crossbows in 1 run once.It was weird. unsure.gif
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doing vault of assassin i killed 2 elite mobs.
they dropped the exact same type of blue, and yellows, and same affixes, just different stat values.

I guess everyone found a glitch in the Matrix

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