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TSsunnyckh
post Jul 16 2012, 12:14 PM, updated 14y ago

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Dear all sifu,

(1) Currently both my front tyre botak edi but behind one still ok, so the workshop staff recommended me shift tyre behind to front and put new tyre on behind...after shifted when i drive more than 110km/h and slowing down noisy sound will appear, the staff said it was normal and after 10k come back again to shift front to back...then will be no more noisy sound...is this normal?

(2) My tyre size now are 215/45/17, if i change my back tyre to 215/50/17 but front still using same size as before, is there any problem will occur?

(3) Yokohama S drive (made in japan) and Michiellin PS3, which one will you recommend?

Thanks for your advise.
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post Jul 16 2012, 01:17 PM

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(1) new tyres should be put at the driving wheels. Check whether your car is a front drive or rear-drive.
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post Jul 16 2012, 02:48 PM

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s drive noisy, and more towards spirited/aggressive driving in dry conditions. wet grip s drive isnt so well.

michelin ps3 is a more all rounder tire, provided you have the budget to afford it smile.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 16 2012, 02:48 PM)
s drive noisy, and more towards spirited/aggressive driving in dry conditions. wet grip s drive isnt so well.

michelin ps3 is a more all rounder tire, provided you have the budget to afford it smile.gif
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how much is the price different between ps3 and xm2..

and which one is better if im looking for comfort drive (never speed above 120kmh) icon_question.gif


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post Jul 16 2012, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Sawamura @ Jul 16 2012, 02:50 PM)
how much is the price different between ps3 and xm2..

and which one is better if im looking for comfort drive (never speed above 120kmh)  icon_question.gif
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for your "2", please maintain same tire profile/width so you have same contact pattern/tread for safety/stability purpose smile.gif

for only comfort, definitely XM2 and it is much cheaper.

for 17" tires Michelin ps3 confirm over 300 per piece, xm2 maybe still in the high 2xx? not too sure.

Also you might want to consider yokohama c drive 2 instead if you're only looking for comfort. if your budget permits, and since you're on 17" wheels, you can also consider yokohama Advan DB (their flagship comfort tires smile.gif )
TSsunnyckh
post Jul 16 2012, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Sawamura @ Jul 16 2012, 01:17 PM)
(1) new tyres should be put at the driving wheels. Check whether your car is a front drive or rear-drive.
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Bro, i don't know how to differentiate front drive and rear drive, my car is Mazda 3 (current version)


Added on July 16, 2012, 3:42 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 16 2012, 03:02 PM)
for your "2", please maintain same tire profile/width so you have same contact pattern/tread for safety/stability purpose smile.gif

for only comfort, definitely XM2 and it is much cheaper.

for 17" tires Michelin ps3 confirm over 300 per piece, xm2 maybe still in the high 2xx? not too sure.

Also you might want to consider yokohama c drive 2 instead if you're only looking for comfort. if your budget permits, and since you're on 17" wheels, you can also consider yokohama Advan DB (their flagship comfort tires smile.gif )
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Bro, i bough a pair of S drive 215/45/17 tyre at Kuantan cost me RM450 per piece...the technician told me if i want to change bigger size must put behind...

Aiyo, i should choose XM2 instead of yoko S drive coz looking for comfort drive...i don't want to change 4 of the tyre coz back one still not yet botak...feel wasted if change...

This post has been edited by sunnyckh: Jul 16 2012, 03:47 PM
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post Jul 16 2012, 04:11 PM

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post Jul 16 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(sunnyckh @ Jul 16 2012, 03:38 PM)
Bro, i don't know how to differentiate front drive and rear drive, my car is Mazda 3 (current version)


Added on July 16, 2012, 3:42 pm
Bro, i bough a pair of S drive 215/45/17 tyre at Kuantan cost me RM450 per piece...the technician told me if i want to change bigger size must put behind...

Aiyo, i should choose XM2 instead of yoko S drive coz looking for comfort drive...i don't want to change 4 of the tyre coz back one still not yet botak...feel wasted if change...
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i believe it is a FWD car nod.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 16 2012, 03:02 PM)
for your "2", please maintain same tire profile/width so you have same contact pattern/tread for safety/stability purpose smile.gif

for only comfort, definitely XM2 and it is much cheaper.

for 17" tires Michelin ps3 confirm over 300 per piece, xm2 maybe still in the high 2xx? not too sure.

Also you might want to consider yokohama c drive 2 instead if you're only looking for comfort. if your budget permits, and since you're on 17" wheels, you can also consider yokohama Advan DB (their flagship comfort tires smile.gif )
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XM2 already costs >RM250/pc for 15"

PS3 for 17" should be ard RM600/pc.
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post Jul 16 2012, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jul 16 2012, 05:23 PM)
XM2 already costs >RM250/pc for 15"

PS3 for 17" should be ard RM600/pc.
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haha my mindset's pretty much in the 15" 's since i never look up on tire sizes. with that said, i did look up advan db cuz they are only available for 16" and above i believe.

with that said, 17" advan db is like 600-700+ per tire, and id easily choose advan db if ps3 is gonna price at over 600 lol
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post Jul 16 2012, 09:12 PM

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advan db 215/45 R17 4pcs each RM485, JB price.
clocked 1K KM, not sure worth the price since its still pretty noisy on bolehland road surface.

maybe have to go find a same car with different tyre to know the different.
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post Jul 16 2012, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 16 2012, 08:36 PM)
haha my mindset's pretty much in the 15" 's since i never look up on tire sizes. with that said, i did look up advan db cuz they are only available for 16" and above i believe.

with that said, 17" advan db is like 600-700+ per tire, and id easily choose advan db if ps3 is gonna price at over 600 lol
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Michelin PS3
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Michelin...Sport-3-PS3.htm

Advan DB
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Yokohama/AVS-dB-v550.htm

i can't brain your statement lol. Why'd you rather choose that tire over something with an awesome reputation for silence, dry grip and wet grip.
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post Jul 16 2012, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jul 16 2012, 09:37 PM)
err, he talk about advan db v551, the replacement of avs db v550
suppose advan is yokohama top range model, well, suppose...
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post Jul 16 2012, 10:11 PM

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Hmmmm... no comments on that as i can't find much prefessional reviews about the tire. But for me personally, I'll stick to something which is tried and tested smile.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jul 16 2012, 09:37 PM)
Michelin PS3
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Michelin...Sport-3-PS3.htm

Advan DB
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Yokohama/AVS-dB-v550.htm

i can't brain your statement lol. Why'd you rather choose that tire over something with an awesome reputation for silence, dry grip and wet grip.
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1) because "is data from 4 tyre reviews averaging 73% over 35,010 miles driven." vs "is data from 83 tyre reviews averaging 88% over 961,132 miles driven." is fair.

2) http://www.yokohamatire.jp/yrc/japan/tire/...db_declbel.html
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● パターンナンバー : V551

("pa ta-n nan ba" aka "Pattern number" btw)

as another forumer already replied you.

smile.gif


Added on July 16, 2012, 10:48 pm
QUOTE(pds_disi @ Jul 16 2012, 09:12 PM)
advan db 215/45 R17 4pcs each RM485, JB price.
clocked 1K KM, not sure worth the price since its still pretty noisy on bolehland road surface.

maybe have to go find a same car with different tyre to know the different.
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can provide a review with other tires? (previous tires? surely you didnt just drive your car straight out the factory with advan db tires? lol)


Added on July 16, 2012, 10:49 pm
QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Jul 16 2012, 10:11 PM)
But for me personally, I'll stick to something which is tried and tested smile.gif
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c.drive 2 is tried and tested

and advan db is yokohama's flagship model when it comes to noise/comfort smile.gif

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jul 16 2012, 10:49 PM
TSsunnyckh
post Jul 16 2012, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Sawamura @ Jul 16 2012, 04:13 PM)
i believe it is a FWD car  nod.gif
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Is 2wd la...normal sedan
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post Jul 17 2012, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(sunnyckh @ Jul 16 2012, 11:21 PM)
Is 2wd la...normal sedan
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lol when i say FWD, of course i meant front wheel drive, not four wheel drive

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post Jul 17 2012, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(Sawamura @ Jul 16 2012, 01:17 PM)
(1) new tyres should be put at the driving wheels. Check whether your car is a front drive or rear-drive.
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always place new tyre at the rear even if it is a AWD,FWD or RWD. even with a 50% tred left, if new tyres were install at front, it may cause oversteer (car will spin) during wet road condition smile.gif
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post Jul 17 2012, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(finalazy84 @ Jul 17 2012, 07:54 AM)
always place new tyre at the rear even if it is a AWD,FWD or RWD. even with a 50% tred left, if new tyres were install at front, it may cause oversteer  (car will spin) during wet road condition  smile.gif
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Well at least I can still countersteer..

I try to imagine what happen if my car got thrown out from the road and having no control of it, it is a matter of when and where i will end-up at.

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post Jul 17 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Sawamura @ Jul 17 2012, 09:39 AM)
Well at least I can still countersteer..

I try to imagine what happen if my car got thrown out from the road and having no control of it, it is a matter of when and where i will end-up at.

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understeer is a whole lot easier to correct than oversteer, that's why most manufacturer dial in that characteristic to their cars, no amount of counter steer can save u in high speed oversteer & snap oversteer when u have less grippy tyres on ur rear

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