So previously we call civic as tomyam car, now we call it what, nyonya kuih?

Kereta Boleh!

i dont own any now. nvm, ok. u r right. i will not say anything about it anymore bcos i dont hv the right as u said

i totally lol with this comment. this guy doesn't know shxt about 'status' at all

What does make a car a local car and thus associated with low quality?

What if Proton takes the Lancer from Japan (CBU) and just change the bumpers to sell it as Inspira? Would you consider it as a local car and has a lower quality?

What about if you take a CKD car and do a local assembly without changing any part with local part? Would you consider this as a local car and has a lower quality?

What about if you take a CKD car and replace most of the parts with local parts? Would this be considered as a local car with lower quality?

Is it the brand that makes the quality of the car lower? Is it the local assembly proccess or is it the local parts that make it a lower quality car? Or is it something else?

What is the difference between Inspira with local contents and Civic with local contents, a part from the brand?

Huh? Honda so status! This thread about Honda vs Inspira mah. Its not even worth comparion.

But when I park my Honda anywhere, people spare me a glance. I'm sure cause its Honda status, do people glance at your car?

This post has been edited by MeToo: Jul 13 2012, 07:19 PM

depends on what honda la
if type-r...thn yes
honda city..meh

Its all about branding and perception bro. Is there any functional difference between a bonia bag and a LV bag? Look at the price difference.

As for difference between local content of both car, some poster have already mentioned, Civic have more local content then Inspira (currently around 25%).

lol again....r u driving an NSX or S2k? if yes, i'm sorry i doubted you, if not, u may wanna either examine your eye or see a shrink, because something is definitely wrong.

and i don't know whether ppl glance at my car or not, because i'm not u. and i'm not driving a honda (not for a very long time, i only drive contis nowadays)

not even type R can do that, most ppl can't differentiate, because it looks exactly like a normal civic, unless it's 1 of the 2 i mentioned above.

Like it or not, most ppl put non local cars way above P1 n P2 coz of
- brand
- perception
- past bad experience of owning P1/P2 (though many cases also start wit "My fren's Proton...", "I heard.....", "I think..."etc)
- P1 n P2 being backed by local so-called "cronies" n d numerous 'bail outs' , 'handouts', n 'handicaps' imposed on foreign makes to head-start them

But back to local content topic, let me highlight some real reported stuff in d earlier FD Civic which should hv less local content
- power steering system failure
- premature wear n tear on wheel bearing
- inconsistent n s'times silly panel assembly on d dash esp those next to d front triagular window.
All d above were brought up by Civic n Accord owners tat some top level fella from Japan was called in to control d issue. So <less local content does not really guranttee quality.

As for price, yes technically more local content should equal lower price according to tax structure. However dun forget all cars' selling price r subjected to MITI's approval which is often a grey area. Another thing is tat its normal for car makers to raise prices between different generations due to higher overhead, design, R&D n material cost, FOREX etc when developing d new comer.

This post has been edited by Deja Vu: Jul 13 2012, 08:25 PM

He won't get answers. There is no way in hell a similarly marketed model by Honda can ever be lower priced than a rebadged Proton. Its just how things work here. Corrupted as hell. Local content will not help in pricing really. Unless it a level playing field. Now that is protection. U can say brand prestige and all. But in the end we find that the price of almost all 2.0L cars from every manufacturer differs very little. Especially those from Korea and Japan.

so whats your conti ride??

i'm a BMW guy. but it really doesn't matter in LYN because i can make it up easily. some ppl here even drives lambos and ferraris

Neither wor.... but strangely when I used to park my beatup old Honda Fireblade.. people also got glance wor... maybe I need to examine my eyes le

Wah... BMW... very gaya wor.. wait... an BMW with a transplanted japanese engine inside.... is considered a conti ah? Maybe Wira put a BMW logo also can consider conti lor

This post has been edited by MeToo: Jul 13 2012, 11:13 PM

Sure? I know every car, be it Proton or Rolls Royce.

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Added on July 13, 2012, 11:28 pmSure? Most Contis (and Koreans developed in Europe) I have driven or was driven in are rather stiff, more about handling than comfort, at least the newer ones. Only exception is Citroen and some D segment and above cars. Japs seem to be more tuned towards comfort.

Contis are better at striking a good balance though...

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Jul 13 2012, 11:28 PM

This thread is like school boy arguing something, the saddest part is still got forummer thinking that the Honda is so premium that is comparable to Audi or BMW, which I found very funny inside this thread. No doubt, Honda has built a very good reputation in Malaysia, and proton in the other hand has been making some cars that the quality is lower than market average quality, but come on, Honda just a mere 3rd biggest Japanese car maker after Toyota and Nissan. It does't belong to Audi and BMW class, wake up please.

i am more interested into argument about more local content MUST be sold cheap.
come on come on come on.

cudnt be bothered about status this that. i drive what i want where i want when i want.

don't know bout cars but difference between a bonia bag and LV bag would be the quality. a 5 year old bonia would probably have torn compartments and torn leather but an epileather LV would maintain its quality of course one could argue that she can buy 5 bonias for the price of one LV but i guess we don't see people arguing that they rather buy five myvis than a 3 series right.

as for inspira, i don't see any problems with the car since its a mitsu and well proven. unless, the assembly side has a poor QC department. i've sat in my worker's 2.0 before, and in fact it was kinda nice and i don't see any quality issues, except for the horrible looking proton logo which is basically embossed on the steering lol

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Added on July 14, 2012, 1:35 ami don't see anyone comparing honda with continentals, unless your sense of sarcasm has failed you.

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Added on July 14, 2012, 1:37 ampics? what model?

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Added on July 14, 2012, 1:40 ami know nuts about driving dynamics and all the mumbo jumbos but one fine feeling that i get from driving continentals are no matter how fast i drive, i always feel 'planted' on the road. i've sat in accord/camry before and they do good in lower high speeds. when it reaches 170> hell breaks lose for em .

This post has been edited by stix: Jul 14 2012, 01:40 AM

Just want to know why would someone associate a brand with quality instead of looking at each product individually. The Inspira and the new Civic is a good example. I hope that people would not just associate quality with the price.

Malaysian mindset.. Branding ..
And most of them dun do research..
Or research base on "my fren's fren said"