Why would SD even raise the price of the Elantra? I think its a foolish move.

Nobody raises prices to slow down bookings la.

And bookings dont mean anything unless its converted to actual sales. If the waiting period is 5-7 months, how many will actually wait patiently? Never trust booking statistics. Nobody actually checks this info. It may or may not be true.

Whats the best loan interest rates currently for the Elantra 1.8?

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Added on August 27, 2012, 5:37 pmThe rain affects white and dark colors. Only Silver holds up well against dirt.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Aug 27 2012, 05:37 PM

Does the Elantra come with a Distance to Empty reading (DTE)?

Whats the best selling Elantra model in Malaysia currently based on your knowledge or official stats?

All cars will usually get better mileage the first half of the tank. The reason being the max fuel sensor isnt located at the very top of the tank. Thats why the first bar drops the slowest in any car. Also, more fuel is lost when the tank is half empty compared to a almost full tank.

Nothing to test actually. Its common knowledge that ull get better mileage with the first half of the tank compared to the final half. What's more important is your fuel consumption and actual mileage per full tank.

For those of you with Distance to Empty meters, do a test and find out the actual consumption at various speeds. Ive found the following:

1) At 110kmph, DTE dropped 50km but actual distance travelled was 100km
2) At 130kmph, DTE dropped 50km but actual distance travelled was 65km
3) At 150kmph, DTE was same as the actual distance travelled.

So basically driving up to 140kmph on a straight moderately flat highway is still considered quite economical. Btw, my car is a Kia Optima K5.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Aug 28 2012, 09:08 AM

U mean there are 3476 others waiting before you? Is this number for Malaysia alone?

Yes i second that. Well said.

A new car without VSM would be banned in America, Europe and Australia but yet in Malaysia its acceptable. Why? Are Malaysian lives not as important as Americans, Europeans and Australians? The problem with Malaysians is that firstly many dont know how stability control works and therefore are ignorant on its importance. Secondly, we place too much emphasis on resale value and brand recognition while ignoring safety.

Stand up and fight for stability control to be included in all new cars in Malaysia and boycott those which dont have them fitted. This will force the Gov & car manufacturers to make them mandatory.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Aug 29 2012, 07:59 AM

I dont really know but after so long i still cant fathom how Hyundai SD can price the Elantra 1.8L at RM 114,888 when their closest competitor, the Forte 2.0L is only RM97K. Even the Civic 1.8S is RM 115,980. If the Elantra came in a 2.0L engine it would be about RM 125K. Thats a good 28K extra over its rival.

I know the Elantra design is good but still at this price?? If Naza Kia still keeps prices low with good specs when they launch the new Forte K3 in 2013, Elantra will suffer for sure. I think. What do you think?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 3 2012, 08:31 AM

Well not really. The Civic may not have the looks but its specs are quite ok. It does have Stability Control which is the most important feature after safety belts. Both Civic 1.8 & Elantra come with 2 airbags. The Civic also comes with 5 yrs unlimited mileage warranty and 6 free services. So the Civic isnt really an empty shell.

Yes this i agree too. Its only the competition which will give us the end user, better options.

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Added on September 3, 2012, 12:19 pmYes point noted. But even if the K3 is priced well, SD will then start giving offers and better specs like what they did for the Sonata.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 3 2012, 12:19 PM

So what's missing in the Civic 1.8S compared to the Elantra?

U know thats dangerous right? ESP/VSC is not meant to allow you to push boundaries. Its meant as an active safety mechanism for emergency situations. The beep is to let you know uve reached the threshhold and u should refrain from making it a habit to drive recklessly just cuz u have ESP. Dont forget that ESP only reduces the chances of you losing control of your car but it does not prevent 100%. There are sufficient documented cases of cars with ESP which have gone out of control.

Drive safe always.

Thanks for this. I was just too lazy to compare myself. But the Civic has VSA as standard as well so Item 7 isnt valid. Item 9 should also not be on the list as a SOHC engine is equally good as it gives more torque at low end revs.

Based on this, the distinctive differece between the 2 cars would be Item 1,2, 3,4, 8 and maybe 11 only. The rest is not really required and not many would use it anyway.

But another difference between the two would be the driving dynamics. The Civic's handling is still better and the engine is a tad more refined. Not sure about fuel consumption figures between the 2 though.

Well the VSM is certainly news for me. Until now i thought that ESP = VSC = VSM. But now according to you, the VSM is actually a slightly more advanced system.

Did you know that the Civic has more total internal legroom compared to the Elantra? The Civic has 198.63cm while the Elantra registers just 194.82cm of internal legroom.

Just for info.

Not really sure. Maybe the seats and dashboard configuration?

Bro, do you know how interior legroom is calculated? It has nothing to do with the outer dimensions. You can have a car with a longer wheelbase but still with a less legroom inside. It may also be affected by the type seats installed.

The fact is the Civic does have about 3.8cm more legroom than the Elantra. This legroom may be distributed more to the front or more to the rear depending on the manufacturer.

Anyway, interior legroom isnt the only factor of consideration but its for everybody's info. And yes ive sat in both cars before.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 5 2012, 08:12 AM

Bro, passenger volume is different from legroom. Volumes take into account the height of the internal roof. Im just talking about legroom meaning how far you can stretch in each car. Not comfort or luggage space.