U can read it on Edmunds Insideline (US) which gives very detailed analysis about many cars. Much more info than what ull get anywhere in Asia.

Ure expecting them to say huge when the difference is 3cm across both front and rear legroom?

Since we're on this topic, what do u mean 'features really lose out' for the basic Focus Titanium (Sedan)? This model comes with the following:

1) ESC
2) 4 airbags
3) Keyless Entry & Push Start
4) Dual Zone auto aircon
5) SYNC audio system with voice command
6) 9 speakers
7) Leather seats
8) Power driver seat
9) Active Grille Shutter system
10) Torque Vectoring Control

Not to mention the more powerful 2.0L TI-VCT GDI engine with 168Hp & 202Nm torque. Plus Ford's new 5 year/200,000km warranty. And u have clearly mentioned the much better driving dynamics & ride handling on the Focus. All this for only RM 115,888 (OTR).

For RM 13K more (RM 128,888 OTR), you can go for the Titanium + with:

1) Active Park Assist (auto parking)
2) Active City Stop (auto braking)
3) Blind Spot Info System (BLIS)
4) Additional curtain airbags
5) Automatic Bi - Xenon HID lights
6) Cruise control
7) Rain sensing auto wipers
8) Power sunroof

So in what way does the Focus Titanium 2.0L (Sedan) lose out to the Elantra 1.8L?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 14 2012, 08:25 AM

Design wise yes the Elantra is better.

Ive noticed that trade in values for cars in Klang Valley are less than other cities like Ipoh. Thats why i traded in my 2003 Vios 1.5E in Ipoh and managed to get RM3K more. Sold it for RM38K. Not bad for a 9yr car.

Trade in means 2nd hand car dealer. If myself, it would be direct sale.

Both good cars. Forget the sunroof. I would rather not have it. The Optima sunroof alone costs RM10K to replace. I think Elantra 1.8L is quite pricey for what's on offer. But test drive both and ull get a better idea.

Ford Titanium and Titanium Plus (sedan) is RM 115,888 & RM 128,888 (OTR) respectively. Hyundai Elantra 1.8L is RM 114, 888 (OTR).

Yes i forgot about the 3 yrs / 60,000km free service by Ford. Yes i think the price increase for the Elantra was not a good move. Plus with the long wait period, i dont think many would be buyers would be attracted.

But yes, at less than RM129K the Focus Titanium Plus is quite a bargain for a 2.0L GDI engine with such top class specs. SD did well to price it such. Now they need to improve their afer sales.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 14 2012, 11:47 AM

Surely the Focus. Its 2.0L is more powerful than Camry, Accord, Optima and Sonata.

U wanna move from Civic 2.0 to Elantra 1.8? Why bother? Might as well stick to your current ride rite?

Who's excited? Sensitive?

Isnt it a waste to get a car in Nov when your car will be considered 2 years old in Jan? Huge loss of resale value.

Cars like Ford lose quite a bit in resale value especially over the first few years. Ure talking about 10% drop minimum. That's roughly a 'loss' of RM11K in the first year alone. As u probably know, the month of registration has no effect on resale value. Its the year of manufacture that counts. So if u buy the car in 2012, thats considered the 1st year of ownership. 2013 is considered the 2nd year of ownership.

Thats one of the reasons why car companies love to launch CBU models in Malaysia towards year end. Most of the CBU stock are coming from other countries because they know Malaysians will still buy and not many realise the potential losses from buying a car at year end.

So unless Ford is giving good discounts to push off their 2012 Focus towards year end, i would strongly suggest you to wait. The sales ppl will start coming up with their scare stories by next month e.g 2013 stock will only come in April 2013, price increase, etc. Same thing Naza Kia did for the Optima K5 in 2011. But surprisingly, the 2012 stock arrived in early Feb with additional rear aircon ducts for the same price.

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Added on September 14, 2012, 5:54 pmExactly my point. If the car has no major problem or if your needs havent changed, why bother changing just to keep up with the times?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 14 2012, 05:54 PM

But use the next few months to learn more about the Focus and other competitors. Go for more test drives and choose different routes to get a better idea. Read up more on the internet also.

I did 2 test runs on the new Focus Titanium (sedan) over the weekend. I must say the handling is really good. Very confident going into corners and well planted. Ford really did a good job here. But the rear legroom is a bit of a letdown for a 2.0L car. I also noticed that there is a delay before the engine kicks in when you floor the pedal. But power is good and low rev torque is more than adequate. Doors feel solid and interior quality is top notch. Dashboard and side door panels are much better than the Civic & Elantra. The Sony sound system is quite good too.

So for RM 128,888 (OTR) for the Titanium + Sedan with the specs on offer, its quite a good buy.

Why would u want a 2012 car in Dec and suffer huge depreciation losses instead of getting a 2013 model?

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Added on September 18, 2012, 9:21 amSurely 2012 car. He will easily have lost RM10K before he even collects the car due to the depreciation.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 18 2012, 09:21 AM

Date of registration has no meaning and no effect on resale value. Resale values are based on year of manufacture. If he gets a 2012 car in 2013, he is basically getting a >1 yr old car already. 2012 is considered 1st year while 2013 is considered 2nd year.

How many passengers in the car? I did mine with a full load of 5 adults. Rear seat was quite cramped.

But i think the biggest drawback of the Focus is the design. It still looks bland compared to Japs and Korean makes.