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post Jun 26 2012, 10:10 AM

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Could anyone here please list down the robber banks and the branch of that robber banks? So we would know when to be alert

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QUOTE(Koiman @ Jun 26 2012, 10:09 AM)
Just a quick explanation here, Lock-in Period Penalty Abolished?, Effective 1st July will be only applicable to Islamic Loan only; likewise, conventional loan will be remained unchanged.

Answer to one of the forumer question: is there any catch for Islamic Loan. The answer is no. The only different is your stamp duty for the loan will have to pay more because of the Selling Price after the end of the loan tenure in Islamic loan agreement is higher.
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jun 26 2012, 10:10 AM)
Could anyone here please list down the robber banks and the branch of that robber banks? So we would know when to be alert
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post Jun 26 2012, 10:15 AM

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post Jun 26 2012, 10:26 AM

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BLR-2.4 to BLR-1.8? surely a more heavier burden for everyone...
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post Jun 26 2012, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jun 26 2012, 09:46 AM)
My first loan from Tiger bank...only BLR - 0.7 and no lock in...but if got late payment for even one month...will automatic revise the interest to BLR + 2%.....what kind of robber is this....

i told them to revise my interest rate after 4 years....and they only can give me BLR -0.8% with 3 years lock in while all other banks are giving BLR -2.2% at least.  So, i tell them you take back your revise offer and i will one day settle it or refinance it with other banks....they told me, if you go refinance it, you need to pay legal and stamp duty.... doh.gif  Guess, i really have to go HL or PB to do the refinacing...... laugh.gif
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You're also "Tiger"r mar.. LOL laugh.gif
Your case, if the loan tenure is still long way to go, it's a good time now you should do re-finance...
In long run, the interest saved is definitely more than legal+stamp duty (0.5% only) being paid.

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QUOTE(yusufhashim98 @ Jun 26 2012, 05:42 AM)
I was told by tiger bank biggest competitor that tiger got few hidden things. i.e. Try asking your agent, what will happen on your rate if you failed to pay on time for 3 months?
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To be fair (I'm not Tiger fan), other banks also have the similar clause
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QUOTE(ecin @ Jun 26 2012, 10:57 AM)
You're also "Tiger"r mar.. LOL  laugh.gif
Your case, if the loan tenure is still long way to go, it's a good time now you should do re-finance...
In long run, the interest saved is definitely more than legal+stamp duty (0.5% only) being paid.

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yep...i know.... tongue.gif i can refinace it or settle in lump sump....but i still got other loans.....if i refinance it and keep another bulk of cash and place it in a flexi account, i still save $$$ over the long run....but the risk is with liquidity cash....means i may dump into another new property along the way... laugh.gif too many saying bubble bubble....take a break first....
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:03 AM

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Just my opinion. Besides Tiger bank, El Rajhuwali also got hidden clause. RM10 for every transaction. You put money in your account, minus RM10. Bank minus the amount in your account to pay your monthly installment, minus RM10. You take out money from your own account, minus RM10.You hilang card or damage like microchip cannot be read (their own stupid supplier F up, but you pay RM20 for that). Other banks happily replace for free.

I kena this one. Luckily only 5 years loan (not housing loan). I lost RM1K++ in 5 years time and this year the loan will habis bayar. so lega. I checked the agreement. Nothing mentioned on this. The only clause mentioned:

El-Rajhuwali has the sole right to impose or increase transaction fees without any prior notice. My fault also coz I consider this stupid bank.

Islamic Bank is being created to protect the people but these so called Islamic Banking is the one that sembelih you kau2. BS I tell you.

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post Jun 26 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(ecin @ Jun 26 2012, 10:57 AM)
You're also "Tiger"r mar.. LOL  laugh.gif
Your case, if the loan tenure is still long way to go, it's a good time now you should do re-finance...
In long run, the interest saved is definitely more than legal+stamp duty (0.5% only) being paid.

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To be fair (I'm not Tiger fan), other banks also have the similar clause
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i believe so...which bank can allow u for late payment or not paying for 3 mths? bank also need to give their staffs $$$ ma... rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jun 26 2012, 11:02 AM)
yep...i know.... tongue.gif  i can refinace it or settle in lump sump....but i still got other loans.....if i refinance it and keep another bulk of cash and place it in a flexi account, i still save $$$ over the long run....but the risk is with liquidity cash....means i may dump into another new property along the way... laugh.gif too many saying bubble bubble....take a break first....
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rclxms.gif multi-millionaire tigerr

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post Jun 26 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Koiman @ Jun 26 2012, 11:09 AM)
Just a quick explanation here, Lock-in Period Penalty Abolished?, Effective 1st July will be only applicable to Islamic Loan only; likewise, conventional loan will be remained unchanged.

Answer to one of the forumer question: is there any catch for Islamic Loan. The answer is no. The only different is your stamp duty for the loan will have to pay more because of the Selling Price after the end of the loan tenure in Islamic loan agreement is higher.
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Is this confirm? " only applicable for Islamic loan only" & " conventional loan will be remained unchanged"

if it is confirm.

What is the strategy for new property buyer? getting islamic loan or conventional loan? & why?

Can give one example for below? it possible some computation, ok?

" The only different is your stamp duty for the loan will have to pay more because of the Selling Price after the end of the loan tenure in Islamic loan agreement is higher. "

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post Jun 26 2012, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jun 26 2012, 11:03 AM)
Just my opinion. Besides Tiger bank, El Rajhuwali also got hidden clause. RM10 for every transaction. You put money in your account, minus RM10. Bank minus the amount in your account to pay your monthly installment, minus RM10. You take out money from your own account, minus RM10.You hilang card or damage like microchip cannot be read (their own stupid supplier F up, but you pay RM20 for that). Other banks happily replace for free.

I kena this one. Luckily only 5 years loan (not housing loan). I lost RM1K++ in 5 years time and this year the loan will habis bayar. so lega. I checked the agreement. Nothing mentioned on this. The only clause mentioned:

El-Rajhuwali has the sole right to impose or increase transaction fees without any prior notice. My fault also coz I consider this stupid bank.

Islamic Bank is being created to protect the people but these so called Islamic Banking is the one that sembelih you kau2. BS I tell you.
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sometime u just cant avoid the clause or u may not know the existing of such clause...so better cash buy lo.... biggrin.gif
but surely i cant biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dino10chels @ Jun 26 2012, 11:05 AM)
i believe so...which bank can allow u for late payment or not paying for 3 mths? bank also need to give their staffs $$$ ma... rclxub.gif


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post Jun 26 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jun 26 2012, 11:09 AM)
Is this confirm? " only applicable for Islamic loan only" & " conventional loan will be remained unchanged"

if it is confirm.

What is the strategy for new property buyer? getting islamic loan or conventional loan? & why?

Can give one example for below? it possible some computation, ok?

" The only different is your stamp duty for the loan will have to pay more because of the Selling Price after the end of the loan tenure in Islamic loan agreement is higher. "
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Y dont u share with us ur strategy 1st since u got so many questions... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dino10chels @ Jun 26 2012, 11:11 AM)
sometime u just cant avoid the clause or u may not know the existing of such clause...so better cash buy lo.... biggrin.gif
but surely i cant  biggrin.gif
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Yes, reasonable clauses are ok. But minus RM10 for every transaction, every month at least RM20 hilang. So if you pay over 40 years, wahh mati woo. Every month:

1. Put in money in your account = RM10
2. Bank take money from your account to pay installment=RM10

This is miminum monthly.
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jun 26 2012, 11:02 AM)
yep...i know.... tongue.gif  i can refinace it or settle in lump sump....but i still got other loans.....if i refinance it and keep another bulk of cash and place it in a flexi account, i still save $$$ over the long run....but the risk is with liquidity cash....means i may dump into another new property along the way... laugh.gif too many saying bubble bubble....take a break first....
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Understand, even worst if spend out all the money elsewhere such as luxury items drool.gif then cry.gif I've the same concern, and always controlling myself.

Refinance, it doesn't mean that you've to get out more money; you can simply because of the interest rate, you move your loan from one bank to another plus enough to cover your legal fees+stamp duty smile.gif

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jun 26 2012, 11:03 AM)
Just my opinion. Besides Tiger bank, El Rajhuwali also got hidden clause. RM10 for every transaction. You put money in your account, minus RM10. Bank minus the amount in your account to pay your monthly installment, minus RM10. You take out money from your own account, minus RM10.You hilang card or damage like microchip cannot be read (their own stupid supplier F up, but you pay RM20 for that). Other banks happily replace for free.

I kena this one. Luckily only 5 years loan (not housing loan). I lost RM1K++ in 5 years time and this year the loan will habis bayar. so lega. I checked the agreement. Nothing mentioned on this. The only clause mentioned:

El-Rajhuwali has the sole right to impose or increase transaction fees without any prior notice. My fault also coz I consider this stupid bank.

Islamic Bank is being created to protect the people but these so called Islamic Banking is the one that sembelih you kau2. BS I tell you.
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The way of charging is ridiculous sweat.gif TQ for sharing
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post Jun 26 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(ecin @ Jun 26 2012, 11:20 AM)
Understand, even worst if spend out all the money elsewhere such as luxury items  drool.gif then  cry.gif I've the same concern, and always controlling myself.

Refinance, it doesn't mean that you've to get out more money; you can simply because of the interest rate, you move your loan from one bank to another plus enough to cover your legal fees+stamp duty  smile.gif

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The way of charging is ridiculous  sweat.gif TQ for sharing
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No problem bro. We are here to share. Hopefully nobody kena like me. Please dont take this bank. You will knock your head and feel like a sohai coz signed the agreement and yes there is a a penalty for early settlement. My loan for 5 years, if pay full lesser than 5 years, also got penalty. I really2 feel like kena kencing sampai hancing wooo. huhuhu

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QUOTE(wanchenghuat @ Jun 25 2012, 07:40 PM)
what i remembered read was that they have no plans to reduce at the moment.. nothing was said about raising..
that is if my memory serves me well..
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Why talking about reducing in this economical climate? blink.gif
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Jun 26 2012, 11:25 AM)
No problem bro. We are here to share. Hopefully nobody kena like me. Please dont take this bank. You will knock your head and feel like a sohai coz signed the agreement and yes there is a a penalty for early settlement. My loan for 5 years, if pay full lesser than 5 years, also got penalty. I really2 feel like kena kencing sampai hancing wooo. huhuhu

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Uob put t&c to me, early seytlement within lock in period will penalty 2% of outstanding loan, after lock in period, also kena 2% admin fees

I dun think any different
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QUOTE(lwc2001 @ Jun 26 2012, 02:07 PM)
Uob put t&c to me, early seytlement within lock in period will penalty 2% of outstanding loan, after lock in period, also kena 2% admin fees

I dun think any different
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cheap....if you take a 500k loan. if you want to fully settle within the lockin period.....you paid up to 499k and leave 1k outstanding....then, you tell then you want to fully settle the outstanding...2% of 1k = 20 nia..... brows.gif if this works

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jun 26 2012, 02:13 PM)
cheap....if you take a 500k loan. if you want to fully settle within the lockin period.....you paid up to 499k and leave 1k outstanding....then, you tell then you want to fully settle the outstanding...2% of 1k = 20 nia..... brows.gif if this works
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