i criticize samsung like hell. but i also criticise apple. i won't get a iphone4s only for 1 reason - no H+. better get the new ipad instead coz it has H+. H+ network is common now. even in small towns you can get H+. its twice as fast as H. so why would u buy a high end phone that cost rm2000 that give u half the internet speed of what the carriers are offering?

t. so the answer to this thread is very simple: get s3 now, or wait for iphone 5. don't get iphone 4s yet. if u still gatal to get an apple now, go for new ipad 3. but ipad 3 is not a phone.

remember this is a apple site. apple users dominate this site. u won't hear many stories where ex-apple users move to other platforms from here.

anyway, contrary to dannyl is saying, i believe apple users are really sticky to apple. they won't move so easily. its just branding 101. it has to do with the "posh image' apple has set in people's mind. and also users get "dependent" on the apple platform they indulge. imagine all the apps they have purchased just goes down the drain when they switch platforms. its a hard think to do, even for me.

I'm reading from my s3 no signature on mobile format. I have no major complaints on performance but on quality control I have issues. I have s3,s1 and ipad 3. I think the performanceof of s3 is as good as my ipad 3.

I'm not defending Samsung. But I like to call a spade a spade. Widgets is a choice. If you don't want widgets then don't use them and it will look like iphone. Opening a document from email requires download. Download depends on Internet speed. Whether using 4s or s3 you still need to download. And I don't think the speed is any different unless you are in h+ zone then s3 is faster.

what exactly u referring to? maybe an example will help.

if u talking about speed in the scrolling and framerate then yes ios wins. even on s3 the difference is still a tad better on ip4s. some peole just like to see smoothness. coz its pleasant to the eyes and resembles the real world. i totally get that.

but if u talking about speed of an application opening up upon clicking the icon, then its about the same s3 vs ip4s

iphone no sd card leh. no file manager either. what u talking? and wifi activation i could swear its 2 steps: 1. dropdown notification bar, 2. wifi off.

This post has been edited by ramz: Jul 30 2012, 02:50 PM

my mission is to call a spade a spade. not to say which is better. both have good market share. so both have its own merits. if i have a way, i will buy out both of them and merge the 2 technologies together, and of course get rid of itunes.

i'm not an IT expert. but i have been using PCs for a long time already - since 1995. and as u know everybody who uses pcs are accustomed with file systems (show me one that isn't). so this paradigm of organizing your digital objects into universal folders and subfolders resembles the real world. in the real world, if u want to search for abc proposal document for example, u go to the proposal cabinet, and under folder "abc" i would find the proposal. in the non-file system paradigm, i would first need to ask which "app" is my document in first - is it a spreadsheet, word doc, or powerpoint doc? i have no idea.

and as for the sd card, i think u need to be updated. its now 2012. my samsung s3 i when i boot up it takes 20 secs. on the 21st second onwards i can already access my sd card. there is no longer any "scanning sd card...." message like zaman dulu.

Do you think Timothy cook is using android?

s3 is a very practical phone. it can do everything a PC can do. nearly everything. even in its unrooted/unflashed state. i think the only think it cannot do is......err....maybe handle complex documents. maybe....i assume i guess.

as for my ipad. well its good for what i expect it to do but its quite far from a pc.

This post has been edited by ramz: Aug 3 2012, 03:58 PM

besides that what else WM closer to pc?

I was hoping for a specific example

Good question. Right now I'm playing subway surfers. It's an awesome game but can't find it on Android. There is another app plentunium kinda good can't find it on Android. Apple is about the apps. Especially the niche apps.

i'm a practical guy. i use my phone to make my life easier, and not so much for entertainment. i show u some pracitcal examples. i don't bring my computer anymore when i am out of office for short stints. so i rely on my phone.

1. i want a phone that can transfer files easily. coz when my client ask for a file, i can just whip it out and give it to him in usb drive, and when my client give me a usb drive that contains a file that i need, i can just transfer it easily to my phone (act as an interim computer)
2. i want a phone that can read my attachments offline. where i visit sometimes no internet or very slow internet. so not all the time i can rely on the dropbox cloud service.
3. i want a phone that can easily communicate with my computer. drag and drop style. coz when i am back on my computer, all my files that i transferred to my phone now i will transfer to my computer. and i want to transfer fast without loading any kind of "synch" software. coz sometimes the computer i am using doesn't have that kind of sync software
4. i want a phone that i can whip out my sd card and just give to the client to copy in case all other method of transfer fails (bluetooth is soooo combersome, dropbox don't work if no wifi, usb drive sometimes i forgot to bring)
5. i want a phone can play all kinds of video. sometimes my client give me a work related video, and its in avi format. i want it to be able to transfer into my phone, and play on my phone.

so which phone u think is suitable for my everyday practical usage?

of course is not for leisure. for leisure i don't use a phone i use a tablet. and guess what tablet is that?

WM has no future for now. but i will consider WM 8.

It's an unreasonable world out there kid. Cloud service is not the solution to everything. Out There u don't get the comfort of your home wifi. Out there U only get a quota of 1g per month. U think clients are so willing to share their wifi with u? And if someone give u something in pen drive do u say to him "take it back and email to me instead". What happen if it's 1 g in size? U think he will tolerate your request?

Some people suggested bring a lap top. That is correct for some cases where I actually do. But when I don't I still got my phone that I can depend on. Is about convenience. its about flexibility. Things don't always go the way you plan it.

nope, coz icloud is more integratable to ios than any other cloud service. for example "itunes in the cloud", it really means "itunes in the icloud", and can never be "itunes in dropbox".

let's live in your hypothetical world for a moment. All transfers are on the cloud. there is no longer a need to transfer through
1. pendrives
2. portable hardisk
3. bluetooth
4. wifi direct
5. nfc
6. usb/memory cards.

possible? possible yes. but it is happening today? this is 2012. the methods above for transfering files are very much alive. i am not living in the future. i am living in the now. apple can lead the way i don't care. but i want today's solutions, not tomorrow's.

And you please start thinking of the present. It's about choice. I can choose to transfer anyway I want. You can't.

iphone is indeed a very trendy phone. If u look at real stats, the users are CEOs, Directors, and such with high profile jobs........basically users that don't spend too much time tinkering their phones, ..... and transferring files, i must add.

This post has been edited by ramz: Aug 10 2012, 04:58 PM