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ramz
post Jul 4 2012, 04:43 PM

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iphone don't depreciate much coz they are the only player in that ecosystem. whereas android phones have too many brandnames.

also another reason is because latest iOS can be installed in the older handsets too, which people see old phones equivalent to their younger brothers.

its only perception. i wouldn't buy a ip3gs or ip4 for that price anyway.
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post Jul 5 2012, 02:31 PM

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why this site keeps deleting threads? a thread on chrome on iphone was deleted. why is that? is this a free forum or a sales motivated forum?
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post Jul 5 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(JaysonGoh @ Jul 5 2012, 02:42 PM)
Why deleting threads make you feel that it's a sales motivated forum  rclxub.gif
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its just a feeling. not a fact. is my right to feel. so why was it deleted?
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post Jul 8 2012, 06:14 AM

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A person looking for a true comparison to make a critical rm 2000 decision will need to filter the opinions and look at the facts. So the less opinions the better especially if they are vague. Anyway this thread is at the wrong place. I think the ts is not genuine with his problem
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post Jul 9 2012, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(dino89 @ Jul 9 2012, 01:48 AM)
To be fair, android phones are also stable, but only their flagship phones are the most stable because developers will focus on the more famous android phones, which sadly the not so famous ones dont really get much support unless the users root their phone
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yes. its been 4 years since android has been around and 5 years for ios. things have changed a lot. so even problems u face last year must be revisited if u want to continue to make that claim. as stable as ios is, i have encountered it hanging every now and than. and as unstable as android is i have encounted less hanging. mind u both my ipad and samsung s3 are on STOCK os. android a year ago i would agree hangs more often. my galaxy s1 do hang quite often, but i know why. its because some apps just can't run on it anymore. so when i run it hangs.

another aspect people don't look at is whether they want to go for a close system or open system.
both have its advantages and disadvantages. an open system is like your PC. and a closed system is like your macintosh (apple up to today is still closed).

the reason macintosh is still alive although it has been butchered by pc sales is coz some people value its closed nature. in short closed u get quality and refinement. open u can innovation but chaos.

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post Jul 10 2012, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(dino89 @ Jul 9 2012, 07:05 PM)
Yes ur statement is quite true as apple's "ecosystem" is quite closed thats y its apps are so refined. Yah actually it was quite awhile since i used android as my last android phone was a galaxy note, which also suffered abit of lag once awhile. Mayb the androids in sgs3 are better la but cant say or sure because it just launched.

Btw i think we are abit straying from the topic ad between sgs3 and ip5 lol
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galaxy note is a bit laggy on ics. but is much better on galaxy s3. iOS still reigne supreme in the smoothness department though. some people value smoothness more than others.
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post Jul 11 2012, 08:56 AM

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4.3" is perfect for 1 hand operation. the galaxy s3 is a tad too big for one hand, although still ok. but actually i am a bit short sighted. i like my screen big. so between big screen and one hand operation, i will go with big screen. i can't have my cake and eat it too, can i?
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post Jul 12 2012, 09:57 AM

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i heard ip5 got bigger screen. i though they are convinced that 3.5" is the best size for phones. their r&d on this subject alone went into billions. 3.5" is the magic number. its so magical they made 5 f***ing model just on this magical 3.5" size alone. was their r&d wrong? or latest study shows that people'ss hand is now bigger because they use their phones to watch porn and jerk off more often, hence the bigger hands. call me silly, but if u think really hard, that's the only conclusion i can make.


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post Jul 16 2012, 10:25 AM

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so what u guys think will be the "Wow" in iphone 5. iphone 5 probably will have ios 7.0. ios 6....well its a bit of a "me too"....i don't feel any wow.

sgs3's "wow" is well, to me at least, only one: Multitasking beast

the mainstream don't hype that multitasking is a wow in sgs3. but to me it is coz i can do so much more concurrently on sgs3 than ever before. and the ones that the mainstream hype as wow in sgs3, to me is so "yawn" boring.


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post Jul 17 2012, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(suadrif @ Jul 17 2012, 01:56 AM)
are u sure u never see anyone like that?
there's so many people jump from ios to android and then revert back to ios.
i agree with u bro.
last time i use iphone 3GS -> iphone 4 -> Galaxy S2 -> iphone 4S -> Sony Experia Arc -> Nokia Lumia 800 -> Galaxy S3

but the one that I am frustrated the most is when i m using Galaxy S3.
seriously, it does not meet my expectation. i got no complain for S2 and note, but for S3, it is not acceptable.
so many comparison has been made in google and utube, between S2 and S3, between 4S and S3.
the result, S3 is roughly 1 second faster compared to S2, and almost comparable to 4S.
but then i wondering, how come a S3 phone with quad-core processor, 1.4Ghz, only can perform almost similar to 4S, with dual core processor 1Ghz? in terms of smoothness, S3 is totally out of the league. not even close compared to iOS. S3 is still lagging and "boxy". we are talking about QUAD CORE phone. for me, it is a big fail.

in terms of data acceleration, S3 is definitely on the winning side.
but since in Malaysia we are limited and no 4G coverage (except YES), iphone is already serving the purpose as equal as S3.
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to me s3 is nearly as good smooth operation as iphone4s. i said nearly, coz only the browsing experience is a tad better on ip4s. and is a well known fact and undisputable that apple ios run better than android hardware being equal. but even s3 got quad core and ip4s got dual core, ip4s price is the same with the s3 price (or is it higher?). so price to price comparison its the same. the core differences is for geeks. layman like me don't care about how many core i have.

i notice on my s3 just recently the line is "H+" (used to be "H") only. and on my speedtest, i register nearly 6 MB/s (use to be around 2-3 MB/s only). i dono. does ip4s support H+ ? (i am asking coz i not sure). i heard the "H+" is due to the network upgraded their 3g line. H+ is still 3g i believe
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post Jul 17 2012, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Gneba360 @ Jul 17 2012, 02:33 PM)
Of course it's the same. But you can't compare performance using price as a benchmark, sir. You just can't. The point being raised here is why S3 is having quad core processor but still on par (or win by a tad) to iPhone 4s, albeit the 4s is still on a dual core?

Or are you saying Blackberry Porsche P9981 is better than Android and iOS?
Well I have to disagree. I do think core number playing important role in terms of phone's performance. Then again, it's just my view  laugh.gif
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There is no such a thing as "performance using price benchmark". that is your term not mine. in my previous message in context is exactly in agreement with you.


Added on July 17, 2012, 4:27 pm
QUOTE(suadrif @ Jul 17 2012, 03:49 PM)
as i mentioned before, in term of data transfer and browsing, S3 is on the upperhand.
iphone 4S only reach 3G or HSPA but galaxy S2 can reach 3G + HSDPA, while S3 can reach 4G with HSDPA
my last speed test for iphone 4s can go max at 3.6MB/s only, while my S3 can reach up to 6MB/s.
here, its clearly proven that iOS is on the loosing side.
The new ipad also can do H+. sometimes can reach 7MB/s. so damn fast. i can watch movie from my dropbox. and my youtube is HD. in fact its so fast that when my stupid streamyx 4MB/s line slows down at night, i would switch to my H+ 3g. its so damn fast i am still not used to it.

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post Jul 19 2012, 05:38 AM

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QUOTE(suadrif @ Jul 18 2012, 10:08 PM)
but iphone 5 will have 4G, at least, based on rumors.
if its true, then S3 data connectivity will be loosing side already.
the only factors that can make S3 so special, is their special features like face login, smart stay and motion control, which iOS6 dont have.
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nope, i have an s3 and i am sure those features u mentioned doesn't make the s3 special to many, although the marketeers have been hyping those features (wrong tree to climb if u ask me). but what make it special, for now at least, is
1. the multitasking capability
2. the super fast H+,
3. it is an android. users using androids before are likely to stick using android coz they are used to android, and also there are apps that they purchased before that they want to continue using.

if i were iphone 5, i willl roll out now. iphone 4s can't really compete with s3 other than people that are already in the iphone camp and can't get out. don't be so stubborn and do your usual 1 year once new version. listen to the market. get it out now!
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post Jul 21 2012, 05:49 AM

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I have an ipad and s3. I am really pissed off on how ipad handles multitasking. This may not apply to most of you out there. But for me who works outstation for months at a time and rely on these gadgets for communication with my family, The ipad really pisses me off.
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post Jul 21 2012, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(suadrif @ Jul 21 2012, 07:14 AM)
i dunno bout ipad but some apps are not optimized for ipad
most apps are designed for iphone.
if tablet, i prefer galaxy tab instead of ipad.
but still, multitasking can be done in iOS.
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It's not ipad is the problem. It's ios. Multitasking on ios has a major flaw. But it's a small issue if you are not like me where I am away from my family for months at a time. And it really pisses me off!
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post Jul 21 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(suadrif @ Jul 21 2012, 11:11 AM)
how multitasking u expect?
what kind of problem?
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My children have iOS. From Skype they go to other programs like Facebook or dropbox or games the video of them freezes. Petty issue you say? Well I can't see their face expression when I want to show them something on dropbox or Facebook. Or when we play online games together. It's not a petty issue to me.

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post Jul 21 2012, 01:21 PM

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S3 build quality is the worst in the s series. My phone still have problem touch button light leaking to the main screen when in pitch dark room and dark display. I so lazy to claim warranty yet

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post Jul 21 2012, 06:06 PM

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My Samsung galaxy s1 I smash it on the wall also didn't break. S3 drop from pants pocket also may crack. The problem with s3 they fuse the glass all the way to the edge. Nak style over durability. People always fall for style that's the problem
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post Jul 24 2012, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(KuLi @ Jul 24 2012, 08:27 AM)
Not apple who control price of 2nd hand.
Just that apple provides free software upgrades even for 2 generations ago phone.
While SAMSENG will just tell u to piss off and get a new one.

S2 was released later than 3GS but cannot even get ICS.
LOL

Sucks to buy SAMSENG. Treat existing customers like beggars.
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ics for s2 already available la.
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post Jul 26 2012, 05:56 AM

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QUOTE(Aiman131 @ Jul 26 2012, 02:20 AM)
iphone 4s still rm1900 even second hand .

i saw at lowyat rm1700 can get for s3 ahhaha
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Sure or not? Maybe 2nd hand I believe la. Anyway Samsung is not that great la. Their quality control is really bad and they don't have the finer touch that Apple has. It's Google that is doing all the software innovation. not Samsung.


Added on July 26, 2012, 6:08 am
QUOTE(suadrif @ Jul 22 2012, 04:29 PM)
yep
i wonder why they come out with iOS 6 but still with an old interface.
why they didnt think of something new  hmm.gif
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Because they are not as reckless as Google. And they don't want to do something that is not backwards compatible. You loose in innovation though. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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post Jul 26 2012, 12:30 PM

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http://mattgemmell.com/2012/07/23/closed-for-business/

interesting read, but i don't agree with everything he says.

1. the pc is open, and it has been good for business up to today. a macintosh is closed, and it too has been good for business up to today. is just different side of the same coin.

2. piracy is everywhere anyway, not only on android. maybe is more on android, but i don't think is significantly more. for me i pay for my apps. its just 2 to 3 click away and i am done. i am not the geek who always looking for a backdoor to get my apps.

3. his idea of freedom i don't agree. for example: i want to play an avi movie. why are u restricting me from that freedom? his concept of freedom that most android geeks care about are things like what icon to label your folder. i don't care about that freedom too.

3. i don't feel the lack of apps in android at all. if android is bad for business, why are there enough apps to satisfy me? i don't brand myself as a nerd at all. so as a non-nerd, i get to do on an android what i want to do, and more.

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