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Hardware 2012 NEW MacBook Pro | MacBook Air Users Thread, Version 9.0 - 95%/92% score on Gdgt.com!

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post Jun 26 2012, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 26 2012, 12:38 PM)
You guys wanna continue your shipment discussion here or at the Apple Store Online Malaysia thread here? There's a reason why IVW made the new version there, and it is more relevant to discuss it there than drown this thread with shipment expectations rather than talking about the MacBooks and their pros/cons/quirks here. This is a MacBook Pro | MacBook Air Users Thread, not a shipment expectation thread. The other link I posted is more relevant to your discussion, not here.
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post Jun 26 2012, 12:54 PM

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Since quite a few of you received the RMBP.

Anyone actually uses the RMBP with external monitor?

Any good external monitor which is crisp and clear?

Sorry about this question, after using the RMBP, those 23' monitors seemed damn blur for me. Need something clearer.
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post Jun 26 2012, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(alvin8866 @ Jun 26 2012, 10:12 AM)
What I concern is heat dispersion since MBP RD is thinner. Can MBP RD owners elaborate more information about heat dispersion in MBP RD?
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I also thought that heat will be much less with MBPRD... Unfortunately, I am wrong... Its still hot sitting on my lap.. sad.gif

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post Jun 26 2012, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(SurpriseZZZZZ @ Jun 26 2012, 12:54 PM)
Since quite a few of you received the RMBP.

Anyone actually uses the RMBP with external monitor?

Any good external monitor which is crisp and clear?

Sorry about this question, after using the RMBP, those 23' monitors seemed damn blur for me. Need something clearer.
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Plugged it for a while on my Dell Ultrasharp U2711. Maxed out the resolution at 2560x1440. Still looks better on the MBP RD. I've been thoroughly spoilt by the Retina Display. I can't even bother plugging this into my HDTV, 1080p actually looks subpar to me.

There are no commercially affordable and available consumer monitors that has the 2880x1800 display. The next step up would be the 4K display. The same displays that will be for the Olympics 2012.
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QUOTE(Edoras @ Jun 26 2012, 01:01 PM)
I also thought that heat will be much less with MBPRD... Unfortunately, I am wrong... Its still hot sitting on my lap.. sad.gif
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Very well depends on your usage actually. You cannot expect such a good workhorse generate lesser heat than normal if you run heavy loaded programs at the same time
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post Jun 26 2012, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(iVW @ Jun 26 2012, 01:04 PM)
Very well depends on your usage actually. You cannot expect such a good workhorse generate lesser heat than normal if you run heavy loaded programs at the same time
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Normal usage like email and browsing.
However, its not as hot as my old 2010 MBA... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 26 2012, 01:04 PM)
Plugged it for a while on my Dell Ultrasharp U2711. Maxed out the resolution at 2560x1440. Still looks better on the MBP RD. I've been thoroughly spoilt by the Retina Display. I can't even bother plugging this into my HDTV, 1080p actually looks subpar to me.

There are no commercially affordable and available consumer monitors that has the 2880x1800 display. The next step up would be the 4K display. The same displays that will be for the Olympics 2012.
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This is the first time I felt Apple is killing their own products.
Thunderbolt display is no longer attractive.

I been longing for extra display.
This RMBP can take up to 3 external display.
Without a good display, those added features are not utilized.

Frustration frustation.
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post Jun 26 2012, 01:16 PM

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They cant release a Retina iMac yet, coz that'll lead to people speculating that a Retina Thunderbolt Cinema Display is not far behind. And if that happens, nobody will be buying the MBP RD coz the current MBP/MBA users will just get the cheapest MBP/MBA they can get and use a Retina Thunderbolt Cinema Display instead, making the MBP RD less desirable.

Retina Display technology will trickle down to the rest of Apple's lineup, but at a gradual pace so that not to cannibalize the other products they have in their current lineup.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 26 2012, 01:16 PM)
They cant release a Retina iMac yet, coz that'll lead to people speculating that a Retina Thunderbolt Cinema Display is not far behind. And if that happens, nobody will be buying the MBP RD coz the current MBP/MBA users will just get the cheapest MBP/MBA they can get and use a Retina Thunderbolt Cinema Display instead, making the MBP RD less desirable.

Retina Display technology will trickle down to the rest of Apple's lineup, but at a gradual pace so that not to cannibalize the other products they have in their current lineup.
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If this is true, the only way to get a higher resolution display is to get those 4k displays without waiting for apple.
Extra display helps a lot when I need to refer to a lot of information at one go.

Buying MBA + Thunderbolt display cost around the same as RMBP.
But this solution sacrifices the mobility. You can't bring that display on the road.

If'm not wrong, i saw Toshiba launched a TV with Quad-HD resolution, 3840x2160 (QFHD).
12,000 USD for a 55' TV.
But it is a 3D TV without 3D glasses.

I just need a plain display 3!@#!@#!@#

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There are those who subscribes to the "mobile on the move, docking at home" mantra. I was one of them when I used my MBA 11" before this. Not many do need that much of processing power or ultra high res screen on their laptops, unless your profession depends on it. Coz all this while, the general purchasing population of notebooks have been schooled with the thought that 1366x768 or even 1600x900 is enough for mobile computing, force-fed by PC manufacturers and even Apple themselves. Nobody has seen or care about the benefits of a Retina Display, until it arrived on the iPhone and the iPad. Cost is the mitigating factor and unfortunately, every single manufacturer out there are catering to the lowest common denominator: the general populace who are happy with their subpar displays. Apple is making even the general public stand up and take note that you dont have to stick with a decade old resolution anymore, it's time to move forward. It's about time.


Added on June 26, 2012, 1:32 pmThat Toshiba QuadHD TV still uses HDMI inputs but the 1.4 profile which allows 4K2K resolution. MBP RD HDMI output only supports 1080p maximum.

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Yeah, finally my mbp 13' reached...the lappy just delivered on time...loving it so much...now trying parallel and boot camp before purchase the real one... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(SurpriseZZZZZ @ Jun 26 2012, 01:12 PM)
This is the first time I felt Apple is killing their own products.
Thunderbolt display is no longer attractive.

I been longing for extra display.
This RMBP can take up to 3 external display.
Without a good display, those added features are not utilized.

Frustration frustation.
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colour perception is not in the eyes of the beholder - but the brains. but you sure you didn't base that comment mainly on prejudice?

there is absolutely no denying that the mbp rd has a gorgeous screen and is an engineering marvel. but the thunderbolt display, hell even the dell ips panels are more than worthy of being used as an output source for your mbp rd.

"but the thunderbolt display isn't a retina display", you say? if you'd take the time to understand just what apple's patented "retina" moniker means, you'd be singing to a different tune.

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Retina display is a brand name used by Apple for displays claimed to have pixel density so high that the eye would not be able to notice pixelation at a typical viewing distance


at a normal seating position of about 25-30" away from a 27" screen the thunderbolt display is about 85-90% "retina" for me. and i deal with vector formats not raster so my "pixelations" aren't from what im working on but from the display. having a "retina display" doesn't make the mbp rd surpass the thunderbolt display in terms of colour depth, (but maybe to an extend, colour gamut) providing that you place it properly.

you may argue that each human perceives colour depth differently, to which i place these riddles three

- what is the current size of your hdtv at home
- how far away do you sit from it
- is it as sharp as it is at normal seating position as when you sit nearer to it.

retina.

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QUOTE(olivur @ Jun 26 2012, 02:13 PM)
colour perception is not in the eyes of the beholder - but the brains. but you sure you didn't base that comment mainly on prejudice?

there is absolutely no denying that the mbp rd has a gorgeous screen and is an engineering marvel. but the thunderbolt display, hell even the dell ips panels are more than worthy of being used as an output source for your mbp rd.

"but the thunderbolt display isn't a retina display", you say? if you'd take the time to understand just what apple's patented "retina" moniker means, you'd be singing to a different tune.
at a normal seating position of about 25-30" away from a 27" screen the thunderbolt display is about 85-90% "retina" for me. and i deal with vector formats not raster so my "pixelations" aren't from what im working on but from the display. having a "retina display" doesn't make the mbp rd surpass the thunderbolt display in terms of colour depth, (but maybe to an extend, colour gamut) providing that you place it properly.

you may argue that each human perceives colour depth differently, to which i place these riddles three

- what is the current size of your hdtv at home
- how far away do you sit from it
- is it as sharp as it is at normal seating position as when you sit nearer to it.

retina.
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Oh ya, before I forgot, if I happened to offend you, sorry about that.

Be frank, I brought my RMBP to Machines and tried out with their Thunderbolt Display.
The difference is very noticeable and Yes, your argument on the placement is right.

Probably I watched the Thunderbolt display at the distance of too close.
At 28 inch of viewing distance, TD would be 89% closeness to Retina Display.
At 30 inch of viewing distance, TD would be 95% closeness to Retina Display. Am I right?
If that is the case, I need to place the TD at the distance of 31.6 inch of viewing distance to get 100% closeness to Retina Display.

I do not need to deal with color depth at the moment.

Thanks for clarifying with me.

And now, with more understanding. TD is an attractive display. laugh.gif


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guys,

i have a question here on the MBP batt. Roughly how much capacity does it have after 27 months of usage?

I checked with coconutbattery and it shows only 44%

tried to calibrate the batt but i still get 44% from the original capacity
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QUOTE(nairud @ Jun 26 2012, 02:57 PM)
guys,

i have a question here on the MBP batt. Roughly how much capacity does it have after 27 months of usage?

I checked with coconutbattery and it shows only 44%

tried to calibrate the batt but i still get 44% from the original capacity
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Which batch of MBP?
How many battery cycles (You can see it in the coconut battery)?

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1519

Please refer to this link for respective cycle count for your MBP.

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Batteries have a limited amount of cycles before they are considered to be consumed and a replacement battery would be recommended. The cycle count limit will vary based on your Apple computer.


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QUOTE(nairud @ Jun 26 2012, 02:57 PM)
guys,

i have a question here on the MBP batt. Roughly how much capacity does it have after 27 months of usage?

I checked with coconutbattery and it shows only 44%

tried to calibrate the batt but i still get 44% from the original capacity
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mine around 25 month iinm..still at 80% i think..maybe tonight i get a screen for u
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i wanna purchased macbook pro 13'. which one are better? SSD or HDD?
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post Jun 26 2012, 04:28 PM

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Sorry if this is a noob question.

Can we change the battery on the MBP RD in the future when the battery dies, since they are glued on? I mean sending in to Apple Store. Can they do it?

Or if battery die, MBP RD also dies?

Thanks for advice.
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Apple Certified Service Centers can change your MBP RD for USD199.

http://www.geek.com/articles/apple/apple-c...ttery-20120618/

Personally, I'm not worried as I upgrade every year. Before AppleCare expires.
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QUOTE(nairud @ Jun 26 2012, 02:57 PM)
guys,

i have a question here on the MBP batt. Roughly how much capacity does it have after 27 months of usage?

I checked with coconutbattery and it shows only 44%

tried to calibrate the batt but i still get 44% from the original capacity
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25 months from my end, 84% lowest i've checked, 250+ cycles... 2010 15" MBP...

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