Cant see shit, Captain.

EDIT: "kernel_task" isn't part of virtualization processes, it is because you are using too many external hardware devices. G35 headphones lah, G700 mouse lah, notebook cooler lah, external keyboard lah. With all these devices connected on your usage pattern, you're better off getting a Mac Mini instead of an MBP RD!
From this article: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20091...up-ram-in-os-x/

Yes. Instead of turning the laptop form factor and use it with external keyboards, USB headsets, USB mouse and USB hubs dangling around?

I have never(or rarely) seen anyone (except those coming from Windows camp), that are fond with external peripherals. Did you read that "kernel_task" article I posted? You're adding unnecessary RAM allocation to peripherals you keep connected all the time.

As for the advice on maxing out RAM, it's a matter of looking at your usage + how long your hanging on to that Mac before reselling it. I never had a portable device longer than 12 months in my possession, AND fom my posted Activity Monitor screenshot, I KNOW my RAM allocation needs never exceeds 8GB RAM. Virtualization is a poor way of using dual OS, and is more of a stop-gap than a permanent solution. Boot camp utilizes all the resources available mended for multi-OSes without any detrimental effect on either OS.

Agree with you , i dont understand how the way people wanted 16gb ram could be so troubling to him

he ordered the 16gb ram and get over it

anyone here bought the latest New MBP Retina? Cuz i'm from sabah. Just wanna know Retina MBP arrived in M'sia or not? still waiting.

the crashed was caused by chrome i supposed , your using that right?

Because you're bringing the Windows mentality if doing things when the Mac OSX workflow and common sense costs you less money and more efficiency?

There is a better way of doing things. And costs lest performance hits on your machine compared to the sloppy way of you doing it currently. Sure, I can get a message sent via snail mail/post but who does that anymore when it's more efficient to either just text, email or bloody voice-chat via teleconferencing?

You can get away with 8GB RAM without running VMWare Fusion and going via Bootcamp instead. The end result would be the same, you'd get the job done, but it's like you going to the supermarket on a noisy,gas-guzzling, smoke belching lorry, when you can do the same thing riding a Nissan Leaf or Prius without spending much and with improved fuel/cost efficiency.

By all means, do what you want. In the end, no specs will be enough for you coz you do things the inefficient way (More Ghz, more RAM,etc) instead if packing those work flow within efficient work cycle.

I learnt to do things "the hard way" too coz I'm taught the ways of Windows but when Apple provides better execution and efficient ways of doing things, I'm willing to learn those work flow and abandon the slow, clunky, inefficiency Window ways. I still use Windows for games though, coz in the flip-side of this, Windows does it better in gaming than Macs. Just don't bring the old Windows adage (more gigahertz, bigger the number the better) when using a Mac. We've moved beyond pure Ghz numbers in processors and gone into improving cite processor efficiency cycles at lower processor frequency.

I'm providing my own side of how I compute on my Mac. If you still want to carry on with that Windows adage, be my guest. *shrugs*

Ic ic, so envy you. i sold out my macbook unibody late 2008. Now waiting for the stock for new MBP retina. How is it? nice to use? any comment for me

Well i know your purpose and i don't recall him saying more ram is better , just if he use that much ram like 16gb which is very much for me also , good for him.

But you know , the way you were asking him are really inappropriate, its more like a  really ill-mannered questioning , like you are so unhappy that he used that way , seriously

Point number 3 isn't efficient if you have to carry two laptops with you. Efficient is the keyword here, remember?

I don't use my Ferrari just to drive it to the wet market to buy fish. I use my reliable Nissan Leaf. Sure, I can use the Ferrari to do the same thing but it defeats the purpose of doing it efficiently without costing me much of my resources. Analogous enough?

I have similar situation too ill been thinking because i just ordered the normal 256 gb , ill of course install bootcamp but sometimes im just too lazy to use bootcamp to watch ppstream with my gf , so , what im thinking is i'll just use some window-virtualization tech(i dont knw what its call) that allows me to use pps , but when im feeling like playing games, then ill boot to window

Ppstream is just a small application , i dont think booting to window is called efficient

Is there anywhere that use a window application without booting up window in Vm? i want to used a edited version of pps that arent avaiable in mac

More off-topic: Mcd nt healthy and oh yeah subway hehehe

i knw bt mine ver can watched all the vip one lol..all the good movies are in vip

I'm on your side this time.  For me, I'm that kind of person who can't stand people from using their MBP or their PC in an inefficient way. It is like you are buying a Ferrari but not driving it the Ferrari way.

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Be frank, my RMBP takes 15 seconds to go into Lion.
Though I never tried using windows on this machine. I bet the booting time should be around the same.
Boot windows natively will gives you more house power.
I try not to install windows in my RMBP.

If I need to work, I'll stop all my games and boot into windows and work.
When my stuff is done, I'll boot it back to my Lion.

Booting time is not a big issue in your RMBP right?
I bet booting into Lion and Windows are around the same time.
Should be 10-15 seconds.

Oh boy, this function exists for a reason.



Well, if you think you can drive your Ferrari your way well enough. We'll just shut up.
After all, this is a forum to share ideas. The right way of using your Mac.
If you feel like you want to do it that way, be my guest.

Same mentality, when I go into "Does iPad able to replace laptop?" thread.
People are not using their device, the intended, designed, manufacturer way.
When this happens, they will complain. Complain that iPad can't do this or that.

The problem is that the iPad is not designed to be used this way.

In case you need the source, Click here.

Anyway, enough of this.

If you didn't know how this is started, refer to your post, the highlighted part.
People tell you nicely that there is a thread for ordering discussion repeatively and this is what you interpreted.

For god sakes , why do you even care how people are using? seriously , okay , you guys are really creepy

i probably should wait quietly for my mbpro to come and stay out from this forum

I'm on FishnCHipx side. Why waste time booting when you wanna work side by side with Windows. VMWare/Parallels is more efficient (copy & paste across, file transfers, etc) unless you wanna play games (then use Bootcamp). Plug into ext monitor, retina screen OSX, the other screen Windows, both running same time, 1 RMBP.

fishnchipx, your unit is buy from retail store or online store?

plan to go with your setup since I can't really change the ram.

For 226 dpi of pixel density in the rmbp, i recalled Steve jobs launching the iPhone 4 saying that the threshold our eyes can't differentiate pixel is when the pixel density becomes more than 300 dpi... Did they over advertised the rmbp?

I use time machine manually. 1TB is not enough if auto backup T.T

Yeap, go into your time machine and delete your old backup in there. There's an option to delete.