not only that, i got a free pink umbrella from kts lol

tips for new 808 owners:



This post has been edited by hox: Aug 9 2012, 04:22 PM

lunch today with 808 in macro mode







This post has been edited by hox: Aug 9 2012, 04:47 PM

808 to me is a smartcam

speaking of smartcam, nikon with gingerbread

http://j.mp/MNZMsx

i think everyone has the right to see ios as bad or good for the industry and i respect that. I personally and strongly think overall it bought much more good than bad, in fact i'm grateful for the speed and depth of innovation we enjoy today in the entire smartphone landscape due to competition. Although we the nerds may question their decisions on limiting features and functionalities, i clearly see their rationale, motivation and value of creating a unique product that breakaway from the dependance on legacy desktop metaphors and paradigms, a totally new category of product that doesn't need to do everything a desktop do but for the few main things they do they do it very well, in fact better than desktop computing. It has also influenced companies like Microsoft to have more balls to find areas in their own business that are ripe for disruption and move forward with technologies that are more forward-thinking, sustainable and adaptable to the myriads of modern computing systems and infrastructure (eg. cloud computing, sandboxed security measures) while keeping everything running optimally and easier to manage and update.

The other clear results of the introduction of iphone are the great improvements in both the UI and UX for mobile devices, adoption of better touch input (capacitive vs resistive), OS upgrades that spans multiple releases, convenient apps directory and the reorganizing of the whole process of smartphone's hardware-software integration. Before iphone, software division in nokia was never given the same priority as compared to their hardware's counterpart. Those working in the software/OS division are second class citizens at nokia that always have to deal with hardware constrains and restrictions as well as last minute changes, facing deadline launches of product because waiting for finalization of hardware components and design. Buggy firmware usually plagued all new device launches and usually take several releases to iron out the problems or worst never been fixed and rely on the release of a totally new 'i' or 'mini' version devices to resolve the issues. After iphone, all manufacturers start to understand the importance of having a tight focus on developing both software and hardware together to create a better product.

Apple's basis and decision to have a tight control and limitation of their software and hardware are never about being evil, obnoxious or arrogant at the expense of their users, its all about common sense business strategy for their ecosystem, safeguarding their platform from eroding (eg. malware/viruses/reliance on 3rd party technologies), minimizing clutters of design, removal of legacy, non-forward thinking, low usability, buggy and battery draining features or apps (eg. 3rd parties' crapwares, operator's garbages, forever bad performing mobile flash player) avoiding paralysis of choices for most users by simplifying functions and features. Removal of 'noises' to a product has always been Apple's core value and virtue. 'Less is more until the market says otherwise' is their motto. The other reason they do not have certain features asides from these are because they are probably working on it. To them introducing a feature is a serious responsibility. Unlike other companies, throwing as much specs or features into a product is not what they do. Until they are happy to be able to implement it in an elegant or more unique/better way, they will continue to iterate in their lab (ie. the iOS widget). Half-baked or poorly implemented features is not what they do. We nerds may question the way they implemented these features later on (ie. notification center) but that's the thought process they went through before shipping a product

This post has been edited by hox: Aug 13 2012, 02:20 PM

yes worth it, it got the 3 holy grail of modern smartphone features: bluetooth file transfer, file manager and mass storage, what more do you need? Oh ya, it also comes with full version of F-Secure antivirus to protect your smartphone and you also don't need to install silly app like Photon just to check sport scores or play the ultimate online game Farmville.

A bargain at the current retail price of rm1899, can get even cheaper at rm1699 with KTS in klang

This post has been edited by hox: Aug 13 2012, 11:47 PM

in creative mode, tap and hold on the screen.

bokehlicious, butterfly oso salivating

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Added on August 17, 2012, 5:57 pmB&W mode with ND filter test w/o post processing on my non-branded dog



This post has been edited by hox: Aug 17 2012, 05:58 PM

shutter focus in low light requires the assist light to be faster and more accurate. Touch focus bypasses sensor calculation software-based, hence faster. That's why i highlighted previously to use touch focus in low light.

maybe i'm getting old or slow or something, i've been rereading these posts for many times but still can't grasp the logic of the statement. but wat i do know is that i've sold my htc one x in less than a month because the camera is not 'Amazing Camera' at all, not even close and i personally can't stand the impureness and ugliness of the non-stock Android UI, makes no Sense to me. Damn all these reminds me of my bad experience using one X, really spoil my dream to eat the cendul at the newly opened stall opposite my house...

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Added on August 19, 2012, 3:46 pmya especially with the official case, almost 100% sure blur shot IF check on desktop.

This post has been edited by hox: Aug 19 2012, 03:46 PM

hopefully Nokia's wp8 offering is not like the snoozefest from samsung

http://wmpoweruser.com/specs-and-code-name...8-handsets-leak

scientific name, you must be a LA

for those witholding buying pureview 808 and wait for the iphone 5 was right after all, it changes everything again.



This post has been edited by hox: Aug 22 2012, 01:41 AM

i think more light go in sensor doesn't necessary gives more chance to create ghosting image as you can still have same amount of chance to create ghosting image with less light if exposed slightly longer. the actual factor than increases the chance of getting a ghosting image is the movement of the object (eg. water, car lights) or your camera during long exposure. if the object and camera is static, no matter how much extra light you have, it will not 'ghost' at all... ND filters are used to block and prevent too much light entering during long exposure shot.

This post has been edited by hox: Aug 24 2012, 05:33 PM

sorry bro, i've corrected my post.

my goodness, my fren drop his 808 on his house floor yesterday and the so-called tough gorilla screen all pecah like when a stone hit your car's windscreen, even with the original Nokia TPU case on!...can't image without the case. Phone still working fine but he stupidly cut his finger swiping the screen. The problem with curved screen packed tightly with plastic enclosure like 808 is that when it drop and hit one corner at the edge, whether with case or not, the lateral force is strong enough to cause fractures to the entire screen.

So today he called up Amcorp Mall Nokia Care and see got the screen replacement part or not..luckily got one available. So he went and took him 3 hours waiting. And then the technician said got another problem, the phone can't restart after restore. Only see the Nokia logo and blank screen. Apparently according to the technician my fren's own upgrade to the latest 311 fw for MSIA using Phoenix is not a finalized fw, and using restore will break the phone. So, after another hour, they gave up and replace for him a brand new phone, charging him only the price of the screen, which is still crazy. He emailed me the receipt below

what i wrote is exactly what he told me...he said he lied to them he need to go travel tmrw, so they put it as express repair

probably the glass and LCD must be replaced together. but 808 does not have a laminated screen like HTC One X, got physical gap between the glass surface and the display panel, should be able to replace separately

This post has been edited by hox: Aug 28 2012, 12:35 AM

ya most probably...now i know why nokia includes a wrist strap in the box

black, black. i drove him nuts by saying you just throw a brand new Nexus 7 into dustbin

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Added on August 28, 2012, 12:56 amMy gut feeling answer for you is NO (of course I may be wrong).

For a person to need to ask if this phone is worth it, big possibility they will end up being frustrated, hypercritical and just not happy with it. On the other hand, those who are very satisfied, glad and happy with this phone already know they really wanted this phone in the very first place. Again, I'm just generalising only, go and test out the demo unit or pinjam a fren's one to play with first.

This post has been edited by hox: Aug 28 2012, 12:56 AM