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post Feb 2 2017, 11:49 AM

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asking on behalf of my friend. any big different between mark 3 and mark 4? where can get the best price for it currently?
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post Feb 3 2017, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Dec 26 2016, 10:28 AM)
Whatever happened to shadow details?
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QUOTE(teikboon @ Feb 2 2017, 11:49 AM)
asking on behalf of my friend. any big different between mark 3 and mark 4? where can get the best price for it currently?
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video wise, yes. both models did not drop much price
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post Feb 3 2017, 10:36 PM

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hi all...should i get mark 4 or lumix ZS110?

newbie to photography...just want to have a decent camera that can last me good 10-15 years for capturing family memories...for me,a must is a viewfinder which is why the top both option...thank you...

any better place to get a good deal except from lazada? currently resides at johor...

http://www.lazada.com.my/panasonic-lumix-d...k-13917025.html

http://www.lazada.com.my/sony-cyber-shot-d...a-11533690.html

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post Feb 7 2017, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(Sky_Q @ Feb 3 2017, 10:36 PM)
hi all...should i get mark 4 or lumix ZS110?

newbie to photography...just want to have a decent camera that can last me good 10-15 years for capturing family memories...for me,a must is a viewfinder which is why the top both option...thank you...

any better place to get a good deal except from lazada? currently resides at johor...

http://www.lazada.com.my/panasonic-lumix-d...k-13917025.html

http://www.lazada.com.my/sony-cyber-shot-d...a-11533690.html
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if you ask here of course we recommend the rx 100 biggrin.gif
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post Feb 7 2017, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(CallMeNick @ Dec 10 2016, 05:33 PM)
At around 900, is it worth it? Or 900 can buy better camera already?
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i got from garage sales at 700 last year... try to search around...
it's still a very good camera
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QUOTE(nevland @ Feb 7 2017, 08:32 AM)
i got from garage sales at 700 last year... try to search around...
it's still a very good camera
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cool bro, will try to find this model as smile.gif thanks
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hi guys,

I know nothing about photography (only read some basics)

if I use the rx100 in auto mode will it be better than a camera phone eg galaxy s7?

how difficult is it to learn to take good photos? i tried with a dslr for about 1 hour come out all bad pictures.
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hi all... which sandisk would be compatible to rx100 iv?

http://www.lazada.com.my/sandisk-deals/

There's a deal in lazada now and wanna make use of this chance to get a good card..
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http://www.lazada.com.my/sandisk-extreme-1...d-11153267.html

rm299 only!! with 10% disc it will be rm269 only!!!
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QUOTE(=..= @ Feb 8 2017, 11:30 PM)
hi guys,

I know nothing about photography (only read some basics)

if I use the rx100 in auto mode will it be better than a camera phone eg galaxy s7?

how difficult is it to learn to take good photos? i tried with a dslr for about 1 hour come out all bad pictures.
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nope. u should have at least a basic knowledge of shutter speeds. rx100 is not a beginner friendly camera
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post Feb 10 2017, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(=..= @ Feb 8 2017, 11:30 PM)
hi guys,

I know nothing about photography (only read some basics)

if I use the rx100 in auto mode will it be better than a camera phone eg galaxy s7?

how difficult is it to learn to take good photos? i tried with a dslr for about 1 hour come out all bad pictures.
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No matter what camera you buy, it's all about your skill. Just get which ever is comfortable for you. Personally, RX100 is a great compact camera. I would advise to shoot in raw format instead of jpeg. You get more editing flexibility when you screw up some of your photos.

I've used program mode when i'm lazy to use manual. Turns out the result is good. However, when under certain different light conditions, manual mode is a better choice.


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QUOTE(=..= @ Feb 8 2017, 11:30 PM)
hi guys,

I know nothing about photography (only read some basics)

if I use the rx100 in auto mode will it be better than a camera phone eg galaxy s7?

how difficult is it to learn to take good photos? i tried with a dslr for about 1 hour come out all bad pictures.
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Obviously.. why not.

Camera processors are pretty powerful these days.

S7 is more convenient to carry and quick snap.

RX100 is more of a proper camera that you can carry everywhere for all situations.


Not apple to apple comparison since they're just shot outside my balcony and from different year and time.

S7 edge phone (shot RAW)

user posted image20160619_193105 by vmwt, on Flickr

RX100 Mk1 compact 1" sensor ( I think this is RAW as well)

user posted imageDSC02830 by vmwt, on Flickr

GF7 micro four third with CCTV lens (jpeg)

user posted imageP1050734 by vmwt, on Flickr

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QUOTE(Jimsee @ Feb 10 2017, 10:55 AM)
No matter what camera you buy, it's all about your skill.  Just get which ever is comfortable for you. Personally, RX100 is a great compact camera.  I would advise to shoot in raw format instead of jpeg. You get more editing flexibility when you screw up some of your photos.

I've used program mode when i'm lazy to use manual. Turns out the result is good. However, when under certain different light conditions, manual mode is a better choice.
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MkIV already have minimum shutter speed for autoiso and exp compensation is pretty quick and painless.

There's really no use for manual mode.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Feb 10 2017, 11:33 AM)
MkIV already have minimum shutter speed for autoiso and exp compensation is pretty quick and painless.

There's really no use for manual mode.
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I like taking candid shots, so manual mode with faster shutter speed is better in my opinion. (Imagine trying to shoot kids, nightmare). Maybe shutter priority is good option for beginner. Manual mode is pretty useful too especially those who love taking long exposure. I hope we leave more options rather than discarding it completely.


After all, It depends what you are shooting. If just normal stand and still/scenery photo, program mode is enough. Great camera design for beginner and dlsr users.

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QUOTE(=..= @ Feb 8 2017, 11:30 PM)
hi guys,

I know nothing about photography (only read some basics)

if I use the rx100 in auto mode will it be better than a camera phone eg galaxy s7?

how difficult is it to learn to take good photos? i tried with a dslr for about 1 hour come out all bad pictures.
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In tern of hardware, RX100 will easily beat S7.
However if you not going the learn about photography, dont expect something better than S7, you will get similar result on both.

DSLR/High End compact offer is flexibility on situation, eg fireworks needs high iso, 1sec shutter, big aperture etc...
Depends on situation, you learn from experience and learning.
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QUOTE(Jimsee @ Feb 10 2017, 12:18 PM)
I like taking candid shots, so manual mode with faster shutter speed is better in my opinion. (Imagine trying to shoot kids, nightmare). Maybe shutter priority is good option for beginner.   Manual mode is pretty useful too especially those who love taking long exposure.  I hope we leave more options  rather than discarding it completely.
After all, It depends what you are shooting. If just normal stand and still/scenery  photo, program mode is enough. Great camera design for beginner and dlsr users.
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Same here... 99.99% candid shot with my 8 and 6 year old.

Maybe our brains wired differently but I think....

Scenery/landscape are a bit more complicated since we have the time to think therefore the photo will show if there's thought put into it...anyway its awful lot of work for a nice landscape of which I have no time or patience laugh.gif

For kids or street photography... I'd would use whatever attention I have to look for specific moments.. framing etc... stick it on aperture priority and just leave the camera to do its thing.

Outdoors during daytime is a no brainer.... f2.8 for small sensor like RX100 and f4 for APS-C (poorfag here so no FF) are more or less the lens best performance, use exp compensation to watch for highlights. Either auto ISO or ISO400 for sunny days and ISO800 for gloomy days. For cameras with configurable minimum SS for AutoISO.. I use 1/125. Shutter speed more than fast enough either ways.

Indoors wide open, ISO1600 or if the camera can set minimum SS (damn I love my fuji's 3x autoISO), use 1/60 sec. Most of the time, should be enough kids.
Besides, some movements ok wut... more organic laugh.gif

Night time more challenging... not willing to break ISO1600 so as its as above.

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Feb 10 2017, 01:37 PM)
Same here... 99.99% candid shot with my 8 and 6 year old.

Maybe our brains wired differently but I think....

Scenery/landscape are a bit more complicated since we have the time to think therefore the photo will show if there's thought put into it...anyway its awful lot of work for a nice landscape of which I have no time or patience  laugh.gif

For kids or street photography...  I'd would use whatever attention I have to look for specific moments.. framing etc... stick it on aperture priority and just leave the camera to do its thing.

Outdoors during daytime is a no brainer.... f2.8 for small sensor like RX100 and f4 for APS-C (poorfag here so no FF) are more or less the lens best performance,  use exp compensation to watch for highlights. Either auto ISO or ISO400 for sunny days and ISO800 for gloomy days. For cameras with configurable minimum SS for AutoISO.. I use 1/125.  Shutter speed more than fast enough either ways.

Indoors wide open, ISO1600 or if the camera can set minimum SS (damn I love my fuji's 3x autoISO), use 1/60 sec. Most of the time, should be enough kids.
Besides, some movements ok wut... more organic  laugh.gif

Night time more challenging... not willing to break ISO1600 so as its as above.
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Great tips from you regarding the shutter speed set up. i just normally put around 125 to 200 and leave to ISO 800 for indoor. The tiny flash is useful for wall/ceiling light bounce. Outdoor sunny day, just put Program mode.

To be honest, if RX100 can even achieve that crop sensor Depth of field look, i can even leave my full frame camera behind. (Keep on dreaming)


Here is a cave shot recently last year. Shoot with RX100 mark 4 on tripod with light room editing adjustment.

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QUOTE(Jimsee @ Feb 10 2017, 10:55 AM)
No matter what camera you buy, it's all about your skill.  Just get which ever is comfortable for you. Personally, RX100 is a great compact camera.  I would advise to shoot in raw format instead of jpeg. You get more editing flexibility when you screw up some of your photos.

I've used program mode when i'm lazy to use manual. Turns out the result is good. However, when under certain different light conditions, manual mode is a better choice.
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I don't think he should venture into RAW first though, for obvious reasons.

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Feb 10 2017, 11:31 AM)
Obviously.. why not.

Camera processors  are pretty powerful these days.

S7 is more convenient to carry and quick snap.

RX100 is more of a proper camera that you can carry everywhere for all situations.
Not apple to apple comparison since they're just shot outside my balcony and from different year and time.

S7 edge phone (shot RAW)

user posted image20160619_193105 by vmwt, on Flickr

RX100 Mk1 compact 1" sensor ( I think this is RAW as well)

user posted imageDSC02830 by vmwt, on Flickr

GF7 micro four third with CCTV lens (jpeg)

user posted imageP1050734 by vmwt, on Flickr
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rx100 shot really wow from my eyes, details all sharp.
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Feb 10 2017, 01:27 PM)
In tern of hardware, RX100 will easily beat S7.
However if you not going the learn about photography, dont expect something better than S7, you will get similar result on both.

DSLR/High End compact offer is flexibility on situation, eg fireworks needs high iso, 1sec shutter, big aperture etc...
Depends on situation, you learn from experience and learning.
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mainly use it for work and some personal use, some promotional use.

my thinking is use it in auto mode in the beginning along the way play abit with the settings and learn slowly from there.

anyone want to sell rx100 pm me. haha.

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