The 3G simcard is actually not related to the 3G network speed that we know of. Rather, it is connected to the amount of Phonebook records (500).

You will be able to use the same SIM card and enjoy 4G LTE speeds once its launched. All that matters is the device itself and the communication tower that you are connected to (is it 4G site and how many users at that moment).

haha fingers crossed then :lol:

A 3G SIM card is all you need. Currently, there is no 4G SIM cards in the market yet. 4G/LTE is just for data connection only, thus, when you receive an incoming call or make an outgoing call, you will actually realise that the connection speed will change back to 3G. Once the call has ended, it will take awhile before it hooks back onto the 4G/LTE network connection.

Sifus, once LTE is available, does that mean I can kick Unifi out the door?
Just wondering if LTE has good upload speed as well, for online gaming. Thanks

hurm.. the official apple site also mention the 3 variants of iphone 5.. the same with the initial release from US apple store.. no band 7 support.. but lets put our hope high on the 1800Mhz spare spectrum that is rumored to run with 2600Mhz spectrum.. then only iphone 5 can utilize the LTE capability here in Malaysia.. correct me if im wrong here..

yeahh.i've read about this  at anandtech website about the failure of lte data connection to be used when making calls eg voice-over- lte  .this is minor drawback of using lte .but who else want to use  internet while making calls right?

If maxis goes 1800mhz does it mean that u-mobile will have it as well?

Hi, I'm a telecommunication RF Engineer
first of all, the very initial 4G definition is telecommunication system that can achieve 100Mbps and fulfill current market demand for mobile data. Don't be so poisoned by the title as long as it fulfill current market demand. LTE-Adv and WiMax2 will achieve that but nevermind, no bother for that, argue for it whether it is true 4G is pointless, the standard set by ITU is simply causing confusion.
Why LTE? Don't you know smartphones nowadays have many limitations? Sucks videocall, voip, cloud storage and etc application, 3G simply unable to unleash the true potential of smartphones due to unable to cater more real-time applications. Evolving into 4G is a must for Operators, Mobile Apps and Smartphones industry.

so, both LTE and Wimax also considered to be 4G, Wimax is from computer world trying expand to Telecommunication, while LTE from telecommunication trying to expand computer world. Long time ago, Computer and Telecommunication are different world but nowadays they come together as 1.
LTE will be winning because it is Mobile Device Era now, and all Operators will be implementing it

TD-LTE and FD-LTE?
For Example:
Basically for layman, we just think about the Download and Upload is divided by Frequency (FD) or Time (TD), if operator have 20Mhz bandwidth and in 10 seconds.
FD: 15Mhz for Downlink, 5Mhz for Uplink (For full 10s)
TD: 20Mhz for both Downlink and Uplink (But 7s for DL and 3s for UL)
Which 1 is better? if 1 user occupy 1 channel (0.1Mhz) for FD, then after 150 users connected to it, it will be congesting whether the users is having traffic or no traffic, same like current 2G, that's why you can't call during peak festival, all channels are occupied, you need keep trying to get 1 channel. But for TD, resource will be flexible allocate, if 149 users are idle and 1 active user is using traffic, this user can have full 100Mbps+ download speed, if 2 active users downloading, it will likely each user having 50Mbps+.
TD-LTE will surely better for Data, but FD-LTE is enough to cater your needs as long as no 150 users connected to the same base station. FD-LTE is better due to it ensure your channel have resource enough to maintain a good quality call, but since we had perfect 2G voice call, why need to use 4G voice call? If operator use 4G and terminate 2G, it will wasted the 10+ years of effort for building 2G network which operator will never do it, so they tend to use 4G for data only and 2G for voice. same like 3G, you can choose from your device whether you make call with 2G or 3G, but video call surely require 4G.
*Above is just concept illustration, technically will much more complicated than that.

If you are a tech-savvy, you surely excited by the information and the DL speed, but honestly you don't need that much.
However, there is a lot of challenges for LTE rollout, free VoIP and messaging application will be corrupt their traditional revenue which they won't be so stupid to let you do it.

LTE 1800Mhz is only supplementary, lower frequency means less waves per second, less waves per second means less data carry per second, but good thing is 1800Mhz is good to cover some coverage holes as it have better in-building/object penetration. However as a long term, LTE 1800Mhz is much easier to be congested, they still need to resolve with 2600Mhz. It could be Samsung Galaxy S4, Note 3 or Iphone 5s/6 to able support all LTE channels.

In-device Chipsets are another issues, LTE not only have different channels in different countries, but also TD and FD mode, also wimax and etc, this is the current biggest challenge for phone manufacturers, however, all RND are in the midst of developing chipsets that are able to support all these, but the cost surely be higher and more power consume for phone battery, and phone battery is also current limitations to more powerful smartphones.

---

Added on December 16, 2012, 12:48 pm4G-LTE also can be simless, because it is run on IP-Based
but Traditional Telco will still require you to have simcard as you will be access to 2G and 3G as well, also the meet their requirement for their Traditional Authentication, Authorization and Accounting server for verify your account.

For new telco who don't have 2G/3G burden, it will be simless like YES and P1, and maybe Puncak Semangat as well.

shincy, thanks for the detailed explanation
one small question is when will 1800Mhz be approved and implemented?

FD-LTE require a pair of spectrum, that's why FD-LTE Telco required to find partner to have 40Mhz block for effectiveness instead of current 20Mhz block allocated by MCMC, TD-LTE will do its Job at 20Mhz alone.

In the case of MCMC spectrum award, the FDD-LTE operators were favourably awarded 2X the amount of spectrum blocks compared to TD-LTE operators.That alone already gave the FDD operators level themselves along the TD operators discounting out their weaknesses. To put it fair, if both parties (FDD-LTE and TD-LTE) operators were given equal share, TD-LTE would have been the winner if your argued about spectrum efficiency.

If telcos in Malaysia can utilize the 850MHz/700MHz bands with TD-LTE, it'll become undisputed win-win strategy for consumers both in coverage and efficiency.

Australia's NBN is using 700MHz to deliver 100mbps lines to rural homes in small towns where fibre cannot reach them. Only those in the middle of the desert will use satellite.

MCMC however always make weird decisions, they decided to use the spectrums for digital TV instead and many predicted it'll cause disruptions to other neighbouring country telecom services.

They should have kept the 100-200 MHz band for digital terrestrial TV like Japan did instead.

450MHz and 700MHz was always meant for fixed wireless broadband services.

I just can't wait for LTE launch by local telco

You did not read the latest Wall Street Journal on applying tenders in Malaysia and how many felt that without bribes, they could never secure contracts? Never heard fo the Alcatel-Lucent case with TM before? How many are confident enough of securing tenders in Malaysia fairly without going undertable?

That diagram shows that with FDD-LTE using duplex channelling for separate channels on dn/ul, there can only be 6 simultaneous users, while TD-LTE can handle 12 users which is twice the amount of users effectively with the same frequency block width.

Now do you understand clearly what spectrum efficiency is all about?

I haven't come close to explaining the more advanced promising features of TD-LTE that FD-LTE can do.
TD-LTE can do MIMO Beamforming with channel reciprocity(single channel for both traffics) which FDD-LTE is still years behind in research due to its complexity of duplex channels.MIMO beamforming can easily give operators a boost in speed with TD-LTE in the near future that FDD-LTE will see trouble getting into.

and NO.They DO NOT have the same spectral effiency if competed against each other on the same spectrum blocks of equal width.
One gets to use the whole road for itself for both traffics of different direction while the other has to split it into 1/2 for different traffics.

There are 1800Mhz together i think

Yes is smart, very smart. Free internet for schools but get free base station site.

back to the post where you asked about 20Mhz TD-LTE is as good as 2x20Mhz FD-LTE?
Nope, definitely 2x20Mhz FD-LTE is better than 20Mhz TD-LTE.
but, 20Mhz TD-LTE is of course better than 2x10Mhz FD-LTE in term of downlink only, but who knows we have many cloud apps and UL could be important as well.

In term of quality:
FD-LTE is better since it ensure a single user have enough fixed resource, this is better in maintain a stable and smooth connection especially voice/video call.
In term of capacity:
TD-LTE can flexible allocate resource depend on users demand that connected to same sector. The more users using traffic concurrently, the lesser speed for each users, since resource is divided evenly. It is like P1, more users using = lesser speed

In term of overall spectral efficiency, both almost the same, TD-LTE have TTG and RTG but not forget FD-LTE have guard-band as well.

So, my conclusion is about quality vs capacity. A operator can have both system as well depend on demographic and scenario, as long as chipset support both technology.

You are still not getting the point there.

If a spectrum block width is to be imagined as that of a highway with 4 lanes wide, then time will be the determinant of its efficiency for its usage.
Traffic was never meant to be symmetrical in both directions where in real world usage, people do downloading more than uploading most of the time.

Take for instance you have a PLUS Highway with one going southbound and the other northbound,

In the case of FDD-LTE, the since the establishment of 2 lanes each way, the north bound traffic may be idle at times but the southbound traffic might get congested during certain hours. Don't you think it's a waste of resources when the northbound lanes are empty at most times of the day while nothing can be done about it?

As for TD-LTE, where each direction is allowed each time, all 4 lanes can be used either way and if northbound traffic is low, longer time slots can be dynamically be granted for southbound traffic to ease the congestion. Most importantly, the main argument POINT here is that the "lanes(spectrum use)" are not put to waste during in idle/low traffic utilization.Thus, spectrum efficiency is brought up.
Technology superiority was never an issue in the silent trade war among nations even during the 2G Cellular war when GSM and CDMA competed years back. The CDMA technology was more efficient compared to GSM yet the latter prevailed because of the higher adoption rates and eventually used in most parts of the world. How good the technology itself is not enough to determine the success of a particular product.

Today, the FDD-LTE and TD-LTE war is also a result behind the clash of the East and the West. One will not try to support the other because of the patent royalties incurred and trade inbalances as a resultant. The Europeans do not want to buy the TD-LTE products because they fear ending up to pay the Asian while the Asians do not want to give the same royalty fees to the Europeans which inturn affect their telecom equipment sales revenues.

---

Added on December 30, 2012, 9:42 pm

Actually if TD-LTE and lower frequencies were adopted, the chances of ISPs offering flat rate unlimited quotas would have been higher due to much lower initial costs for investments.

TM and Jaring managed to do it last time with their Wireless Streamyx and Jaring Wireless last time with 450MHz proprietary CDMA tech from SOMA Networks. Very good coverage too with fewer base stations needed.

Australia NBN(on 700MHz) is using this strategy as well as Sweden by Net1 using CDMA EV-DO RevB on 450MHz to serve subscribers in the jungle/rural markets. Those areas will never be served with fibre since they are too remote for implementations.
Their governments felt that even rural fols should not be deprived of high speed internet even if they'll never be served by fibre so they plan to use LTE 700MHz to give them 100mbps internet.

maxis stated countdown timer in thestar.com.my mention mobile internet will never be the same again,.

wondering who is first, LOL

have to see later on tonight 12am 

Will we need to change the sim card to enjoy LTE service?

is this Maxis LTE USB modem only for one pc? how do i connect it to a wifi router? sorry for the noob question

Maxis only launch LTE data at the moment

LTE HD Voice is soon but don't expect anywhere too soon

I think you referring this

http://www.malaysianwireless.com/2012/06/c...offer-hd-voice/

Hmm, another new thing to learn but this doesn't looks like to be related with LTE

Correct me if I am wrong

the band 3 - 1800MHz i heard SKMM going to approve it? if true probably another bidding war once approved.
And for this phone LTE support, do they need to do changes on hardware level or software level to enable certain LTE band?

It seems that all devices use to test LTE has varies speed range. As you can see if we test on mobile device (eg samsung note 2 like in the video) speed very fast 64.4 Mbps download 13.5 Mbps upload compare to the modem.

I dont know why this happen.

Very unlikely...

Shout does not mean ready ... LOL
I also can shout that I have millions in my bank !!!

"Elsewhere in the Southeast Asia region, Singapore's three mobile operators have already launched LTE services, with M1 the first to offer commercial LTE services in June 2011. In the Philippines, LTE networks went live in 2011." quoted from ZDNet.

Malaysia is such slow poke...