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 (True 4G) LTE 100-150Mbps 2013-2014 Malaysia V1, LTE is going to replace 3G in future

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post Jan 9 2013, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Pegasus88 @ Jan 9 2013, 04:34 PM)
Hmm it make sense....so are they in the market yet ?

I wonder those telco will implement quota with LTE package or not, If the quota is low like 1gb to 5gb...really no point to get LTE  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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It's like having Ferrari (or other super cars) but can only drive 10km per month without any speed limit smile.gif

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post Jan 9 2013, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(alf233 @ Jan 9 2013, 04:43 PM)
It's like having Ferrari (or other super cars) but can only drive 10km per month without any speed limit smile.gif
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yea rclxms.gif with high prices for sure thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(alf233 @ Jan 9 2013, 04:43 PM)
It's like having Ferrari (or other super cars) but can only drive 10km per month without any speed limit smile.gif
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yeah, that's lame for sure,. even T mobile and Sprint able to provide unlimited & no cap LTE,.. sweat.gif
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post Jan 12 2013, 07:01 AM

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I won't mind paying RM100-RM200 for a service offering true unlimited data over LTE. Heck I have that now over DC-HSPA+ (10Mbps roughly). Too bad there're no official offerings.
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QUOTE(KaiHD @ Jan 12 2013, 07:01 AM)
I won't mind paying RM100-RM200 for a service offering true unlimited data over LTE. Heck I have that now over DC-HSPA+ (10Mbps roughly). Too bad there're no official offerings.
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dont think LTE will offer any unlimited since recently maxis is capping all the unlimited plan -> 30GB quota,.

so i guess LTE is coming with quota too sweat.gif
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post Jan 12 2013, 06:08 PM

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I don't mind if they come up with quota, but it must be >100GB nod.gif
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post Jan 13 2013, 02:18 AM

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Why is it that all telcos in Malaysia only sell HSDPA/LTE service via so-called 'broadband' packages? What happened to mobile PHONES? Practically all phones come with HSDPA nowadays, yet no telco offers services faster than EDGE/3G.v1 (3mbps and below). What's the point of LTE phones then?

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QUOTE(jkn @ Jan 13 2013, 02:18 AM)
Why is it that all telcos in Malaysia only sell HSDPA/LTE service via so-called 'broadband' packages? What happened to mobile PHONES? Practically all phones come with HSDPA nowadays, yet no telco offers services faster than EDGE/3G.v1 (3mbps and below). What's the point of LTE phones then?
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it is all marketting gimmick,. sweat.gif
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post Jan 13 2013, 08:30 AM

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mobile phone will come under mobile internet or smart plan. 'broadband' package mostly mean data only.
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QUOTE(jkn @ Jan 13 2013, 02:18 AM)
Why is it that all telcos in Malaysia only sell HSDPA/LTE service via so-called 'broadband' packages? What happened to mobile PHONES? Practically all phones come with HSDPA nowadays, yet no telco offers services faster than EDGE/3G.v1 (3mbps and below). What's the point of LTE phones then?
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ya...stupid telco.

telco should improve the 3G coverage and speed. there are still many places in malaysia without 3g. telco announce 4g in places with good 3g coverage. in the end, the places with good coverage will always get a high speed and other places will be left alone forever with 2g (EDGE or even GPRS).

example:
town ABC - 2G > 3G > 4G > 5G > 6G..whatever G in the future...
kampung XYZ - 2G forever cry.gif
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post Jan 13 2013, 10:34 PM

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All Malaysian telcos practice a strategy called Oligopoly la.
This is today's modern method of monopolistic practices whereby a few telco company about 3-4 collaboratively price their services/goods similar to one another.

Some thing like this:
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Further explanation can be learned in this video:



So you see, no matter you choose telco C, D, M or U, you are not going to see their prices far from each other when it comes to quota, call rates or SMSes. Big brader will regulate them and ask the tadical one to slow down so his family member who owns another rival can still survive.
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any LTE phone user here?
Plan to buy Asus Padfone 2
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post Jan 14 2013, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Jan 14 2013, 04:06 PM)
any LTE phone user here?
Plan to buy Asus Padfone 2
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The current Maxis LTE network doesn't support phones yet.. It is now only for Modem and Router... Hope Maxis will have lte for phone soon and Celcom will have this as well when they launch..

So those who have the padfone2 and the new lumia are already considered lte-capable phone users, but not lte users.. A bit confusing smile.gif
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post Jan 16 2013, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jan 8 2013, 08:20 PM)
IMHO, there is no rushing need for LTE other than for ISPs to serve areas unreachable by FTTH with mobile broadband replacing fixed lines.

A well planned 3G DC-HSPA+ network with very good coverage and is in a better position to even take on FD-LTE(with limited spectrum blocks allocations) and even the HSBB fibre networks.

DiGi is in no hurry to rush out their LTE network. They might be waiting to launch a network with significant coverage instead of choosing to slowly expand. Just look at the current pilot areas which Maxis has. They are ALL well served areas with FTTH and it's not a good strategy because the LTE service would just become another overlapped service competing against the HSBB and the upcoming cable tv broadband. How about the underserved areas which have been waiting for years to get fibre? Do Malaysian telcos only please the affluent and elites with all the best things even if they don't necessarily require all of them at once while ignoring the masses?

I wished Telenor(DiGi) would just acquire P1. That way it'll give them a a separate network to position themselves with a pure data/internet service provider instead of mobile voice. You know, the 3G networks are going to be around for quite some time along with LTE. The real benefits with LTE's additional speed has little much to do with voice and the other traditional mobile telco services, with the only exceptional good thing it is good for is for consumer broadband internet services which is confined mostly in the desktops.

Having said that, it is understandable why DiGi has no rush to push out their LTE with their tomorrow network. It's just pure hype. Having fibre-like speeds on your smartphone is nothing more than just hype because the mainstream consumers expects to download chunks of data for ISOs, games, movies and updates which expensive LTE data quotas would not make sense. You might prefer a TD-LTE network that could adjust better to asymmetrical speeds that in return becomes cheaper RM per byte with a better tolerance for higher contentions?

Could it be that DiGi is more interested to find a separate network to run its own internet services as a pure ISP?
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post Jan 16 2013, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Jan 8 2013, 09:07 PM)
Then they should have concentrated on working on their backhaul first don't you think. That's what DiGi is silently concentrating with their Tomorrow's Network advantage. The backhaul plays a very important role to keep sites pumped enough of bandwidth to prevent congestion in real world situations. Creative methods to offload the networks is also an important startegy.

The title of being Asia's 1st to launch commercial LTE has long been taken by others. So launching 1st is not a priority now.
The one who launches the widest coverage, cheapest packages and cater with the surge in network capacity without compormising customers experience is the REAL winner.

I don't understand Malaysian mentality of constraining themselves and always creating competiton only in their areas of choices.
Just look at TM, Maxis, DiGi and UMobile. It's always DU, TTDI, Subang Jaya, Putrajaya and Bangsar. They always get the golden shower first hand and then if demand dies down the whole momentum halts. Who would be interested for expensive high quota LTE packages when you already have HSBB at home? Would a wise person spent unnecessarily on several overlap services which you don't get to use all of it meaningfully? There's a living to make and there's a more to life other than your smartphone and PC at home.
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just sound like my boss that day in the meeting.... ahahaha....i agree that too
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QUOTE(chuahcs79 @ Jan 12 2013, 01:50 PM)
dont think LTE will offer any unlimited since recently maxis is capping all the unlimited plan -> 30GB quota,.

so i guess LTE is coming with quota too  sweat.gif
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hi there, really they will capped all the unlimited plan to only 30Gb per month ??
f***ing MAXIS!!~~ mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

They wanted use to agree to the contract which we signed for and now they just simply change it ???
Since they didn't follow up to the contract agreement they should refund or make some promises to the customers and not f***ING change it to their liking ~

f***ING MAXIS~~ I'm really mad and irritated to this type of f***ing Service from MAXIS~
and now I can't even surf the web with the maxis plan which is as you said the unlimited plan being capped.

DAMN THIS MAXIS~~ I'm GONNA Call them up and complaint about this!!!~

Please forgive me for the rudeness. Just didn't expect this and it is just too ridiculous for them to breach the contract agreement just like that !!!

Have a nice day Guys~ smile.gif


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post Jan 18 2013, 12:46 AM

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improve poor coverage......
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QUOTE(kenluvs @ Jan 17 2013, 10:47 AM)
hi there, really they will capped all the unlimited plan to only 30Gb per month ??
f***ing MAXIS!!~~  mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

They wanted use to agree to the contract which we signed for and now they just simply change it ???
Since they didn't follow up to the contract agreement they should refund or make some promises to the customers and not f***ING change it to their liking ~

f***ING MAXIS~~ I'm really mad and irritated to this type of f***ing Service from MAXIS~
and now I can't even surf the web with the maxis plan which is as you said the unlimited plan being capped.

DAMN THIS MAXIS~~ I'm GONNA Call them up and complaint about this!!!~

Please forgive me for the rudeness. Just didn't expect this and it is just too ridiculous for them to breach the contract agreement just like that !!!

Have a nice day Guys~ smile.gif
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regarding 4G, I think Malaysia is kinda too fast in these things..

Why? they should improve the 3G or even EDGE coverage first...

look at UK, they may be slow in implementing 4G[only in last year], but then, their 3G networks are excellent...

EE is the company that provide 4G service in UK
by looking the plan that provided by EE [who also run the Orange and T-mobile in UK]

the highest/most expensive plan is £36.00 which has contract 12 months, with 5GB data allowance[quota]

EE has been criticized because only provide 5GB data allowance[so small LOL]

and £36.00 per month isn't cheap either... I would rather go for 3G services, but I can't remember which providers that can provide unlimited data[LOL]


but still if in Malaysia, if there are providers that can provide unlimited data quota with 4G service, I will really salute them.. [don't compare with US, they already on different phase, we are still new, compare with Australia, Singapore, Thailand or even UK, we are still not bad]

Maxis is too fast if they want to implement the 4G, they still need to improve coverage first...
Celcom has improve their HSDPA coverage, although they may be late in HSPA+, at least they finish improve their HSDPA coverage first.. then HSPA+, then later 4G

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Virgin Media Business Says Brits think 4G Is Too expensive

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BROADBAND PROVIDER Virgin Media Business revealed today that 90 percent of UK consumers won't change mobile operators just for 4G, with most thinking the speed bump is too expensive.

The internet service provider carried out a survey of 2,000 smartphone subscribers, 1,800 of which answered that they won't be switching to a 4G mobile operator yet..

According to Virgin Media Business, 61 percent of UK consumers are reluctant to switch due to the cost of 4G mobile tariffs, which given EE's eye-watering contracts doesn't come as much of a surprise. For example, a Samsung Galaxy S3 LTE costs £150 on a 24 month £36 tariff, which comes with just 500MB of data

George Wareing, director of mobile and broadcast at Virgin Media Business said, "Of course price will always be a factor with consumer purchasing decisions.

"However, by taking a holistic approach and giving customers a better understanding of their services, operators will be able to differentiate themselves not just on price but on a better all-round service, setting themselves up perfectly to roll-out future technology such as 4G."

That's not the only reason consumers are reluctant to switch mobile providers, as 34 percent bemoaned the lack of network coverage as the reason they won't be switching. In addition, 22 percent said that they would want a more reliable mobile data connection before signing up to a 4G contract.

Wareing added, "With so much investment being made into existing and future services, and huge expectations around what those advances will bring to the UK, it's time for telcos like us to work even more closely to deliver a blend of technologies that will not only improve existing 3G performance, but also ensure that 4G is the success everyone wants it to be."

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2...s-too-expensive
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post Jan 21 2013, 04:37 PM

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malaysia bolehland
3g= 42mb(42000kb) fail only 2-3 mb(200-300kb)

3g=100 mb( 10000kb) give u 5-6 mb(500-600kb) you already untung

if give 100 mb also useless
100mb download speed
500 second finish all cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

cap 128kb slow like hell,, shakehead.gif

+ 3g price already expensive. vmad.gif

but bolehland people 3g= 42mb get only 2-3mb never mind lah because
a) don`t know real 3g speed just sign plan to buy phone
b) already know but dun care
c) already know and complain but useless .

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