QUOTE(alf233 @ Dec 31 2012, 05:57 PM)
2 things you forgot (or probably you dont know):
1. DL & UL have different spectral efficiency.. DL can do MIMO spatial multiplexing and 64QAM, whereas UL can only do 1 stream and 16QAM. And because of this difference, the capacity of DL & UL in FDD will never be symmetrical (as what you claim). What I meant by spectral efficiency is "DL Spectral efficiency in LTE" and "UL Spectral efficiency in LTE". So if you compare DL spectral efficiency of TD-LTE & FDD, they are of course the same. Try answer this (any Telco RF engineer can sure work this out very easily): How many bits can be transmitted in a subcarrier in (i) TD-LTE (ii) FDD LTE for DL? The answer is the same for both. And same goes for the UL. Do you understand what is spectral efficiency now? Number of bits per Hertz. I guess you get confused with spectral efficiency and capacity.
Answer:
Did you intentionally left out the total number of subcarriers in regards of spectrum width, mind you without that you can't calculate the maximum throughput? You forgot the fact that the total number of subcarriers are different in 2X10MHz versus 1X20MHz setups? When you do the calculation of radio resources to bits conversion, of course they are similar but it has of no interests to network operators. The spectral efficiency which you argued on has nothing more than the technical meaning of bits conversion related to RF than efficient use spectrum for service deployments.
The spectrum argument has been dead since voice became purely packet switched. Pure data players such as YES, P1, Clearwire, Vivid Wireless and others who provide mobile broadband players hardly see any advantages from using FDD.It is also natural for WIMAx operators to take this route for their next upgrade since WIMAx is also based on TDD. There is no urgent need for them prioritized QoS for voice services. HD Voice is packet based which can be handled with upper layers. If they need, there is the 3G networks to fall back on for pay per minute calls.
QUOTE(alf233 @ Dec 31 2012, 05:57 PM)
2. True that TD is flexible, but you can't really have a different TD configuration (ratio) in an area, that will cause massive interference. So you'll have to stick to only 1 configuration, and if you want to change it, you will need to change in the whole network. You can have different TD configurations but you will need border in between the network area, e.g. TDD mode 1 in west Malaysia and TDD mode 2 in east Malaysia. You probably haven't come across this?
Of course you can't use the same strategy as FDD with TDD. But I see you lack the experience and knowledge in deploying your products in real commercial situations. TDD excels in urbanized setups and indoor coverages where you have isolated hotspots that hardly overlaps with other microcells footprints.Take Softbank's Wireless City Planning Project for Metropolitan Tokyo. The number of microcells they'll deploy is about 150 units per sq km all of them with just about the size of a shoebox.Dark fibre is plentiful in metropolitan Tokyo for backhaul. Each "shoebox" will be pumped with 10GE access to a centralised local exchange office which synchronizes time for all of them.So what's your problem with inteferences? Moreover (if you don't know) the sales of LTE microcells is expected to dominate and surpass macro base stations by 2014. It'll expect to make up 90% of all base stations by 2016. DC-HSPA+ will continue to serve greater areas outside the cities, while wifi hotspots will offload data in public areas.
QUOTE(alf233 @ Dec 31 2012, 05:57 PM)
Let me guess, your resource and reference on LTE is only google, thats why your knowledge is so limited? I'm sharing with you what I've compiled from 3GPP specs the peak speed (MAC layer) of FDD and all configurations of TDD below. All are using total of 20MHz. Hope this is enough to open your mind a bit. I can also tell you which TDD mode is widely used, what makes their peak speed difference if you are interested to know. I can even share with you how to find 3GPP specs, if you dont know how to find them.
I've not told you this until now but FYI, I've been a registered member with ETSI since the REL99 days, company forced me to do it upon joining. I'll wouldn't suggest engineers to concentrate reading up those specs without proper exposure and touching knowledge materials supplied by their companies research depts. Without proper guidance and hands-on from seniors or trainers, the contents are gibberish even to most engineers out there. They make good references for facts finding but not cookbooks.
QUOTE(alf233 @ Dec 31 2012, 05:57 PM)
If you compare FDD 2x10MHz with TDD 1x20MHz Mode 1 (which divides the resource equally for DL & UL just like FDD), can you see that FDD gives more capacity? Do you know why? I can help to explain if you're interested to know more about resource allocation in LTE
FDD 2x10MHz DL 75.4Mbps UL 25.1Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 0 DL 38.3Mbps UL 29.5Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 1 DL 69.4Mbps UL 19.9Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 2 DL 95.6Mbps UL 9.9Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 3 DL 95.6Mbps UL 14.9Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 4 DL 112.3Mbps UL 9.9Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 5 DL 125.5Mbps UL 5.4Mbps
TDD 1x20MHz Mode 1 DL 53.8Mbps UL 24.7Mbps
Answer:
You hid the fact that 75mbps can only be achieved by TDD-LTE if there's only a single user occupying the whole subcarrier for himself. In a multi user environment that contends, TDD mode's wider lanes will be at advantage. The challenge for throughput is to send as much data over the link with the fixed amount of time. It's true that in a single user environment where one gets to download continuously over a subcarrier for a longer period of time FDD achieves greater transfer speeds but if assuming you have a competition where who gets to paint a larger overall portion of the road, TDD can have just as much covered with higher capacity making up for it.Try benchmarking TDD with more users contending with downloads at the same time, real world condition speeds will drop considerably. One proof I will show you is from a presentation given by a Korean working with NSN, unless he's trying to pull off a lie with the crowd, the results are contrasting compared to the theoretical maximum thoughput which you took from your 3GPP specs boldly. Not that it did indicate any caveat emptor when quoting them. Did they specifically mentioned the conditions when they conducted the tests? Do you now know why I only refer to specs for referencing?They don't tell best practices.
In fact if they have extra spectrum to spare, just like in the case of Clearwire acquisition, Softbank intends to use full 40MHz and give speeds of upto 4-5 times that of what those FDD networks Verizon and ATT are doing.On top of that they can even provide unlimited quotas with the added capacity which none of the 2 FDD players can ever dare commit.