some unis do preclinical clinical divide like queens as you said and mine.
yeah, one of my friend is studying in glasgow atm and its insane expensive.

each medical school has their own criteria to how they accept applicants, which can be found on each of their website.
As above, thestudentroom is a good place to ask current students, other applicants to see how strong your application is/how likely it is to get in.

A levels is just a formality, in a sense 3A's is the min req (some require A*, A in chemistry and etc). it does not have any impact on how strong your application is.

SPM/O levels results has no value whatsoever, except the English 1119 component which might exempt you from IELTS.
Voluntary work + medical experience is critical but its not only about the amount you did and wrote in your personal statement, but what did you get out of it overall and reflected over it.

yes, relatively harder in a sense, its the norm for them to go for volunteering and medical shadowing experiences.
However, this should not deter you from seeking out opportunities if youre passionate in it.

not recognised in sg i believe

HO in uk quite impossible due to visa issue.

so... chances are very slim honestly

I highly doubt SMC will recognise monash imo.
But again anything can happen haha.
I wonder when will sg stop recruiting aka close its doors hmm..

There are alot of bursaries and scholarships as well for singaporeans doing medicine overseas so alot of opportunities for their locals to come back and fill the spaces.

As what you mentioned, care to elaborate what problems they are
I thought UM and UKM produce good quality students.

Where do you get the stats for this

haha DGHs like northampton are facing tons of pressure due to fewer junior docs and rota gaps.
Personally I havent been there yet but the other DGHs around east midlands (and whole of uk potentially) face similar issues such as one HO and one reg does the on call for the whole hospital and etc

This post has been edited by Jckc: Apr 21 2017, 02:43 AM

Personally, there are pros and cons to each, thats why deaneries in foundation years do 1 year in DGHs and 1 year in main uni hospitals to give you different range of exposures.

DGH-wise, you play a bigger role and you have more responsibilities with patients overall. In general, You can be the only junior doc in charge of 4-5 bays of patients. You are also responsible in making more management plans which you can discuss with your reg/cons. You also could even lead the ward round some days when there are no seniors around (especially like ortho)! In a nutshell, you get alot of experience doing things and also familiarise yourself with the ward work in a smaller scale with less workload in comparison to main hosps.
You also have more chance to pursue your interest since you have more time. (so like assisting in surgery and etc)
the main cons is that you often feel the lack of support and find it hard to cope with the workload if youre the only one available. (especially when youre on call at night or on weekends! its can be quite dreadful)

Main hospital wise, youre very well supported and there are plenty of helpful hands around (if youre nice). and plenty of exposure to tertiary, more specialised conditions and management, like neuro surgery or major trauma surgery for example. You also have more opportunities to develop a professional network with doctors to do research projects and be the front of upcoming technology or breakthrough research.
Cons wise can be hectic workload since you handle more patients and cases. the pressure of beds really hits as well and the turnover can be really fast and drastic. (DGHs too but not as bad imo). ALOT of your work early on is admin work and doing TTOs/discharge summaries with tons of other jobs. So you could turn into a machine after awhile.

(this is just my opinion as a med student observing and listening to junior docs)

This post has been edited by Jckc: Apr 21 2017, 11:04 PM

30% is alot..
i wonder what is the main reason for this.
I have not heard of doctors in the UK being retained or delayed in their foundation years unless personal issues.

Thanks for the insight.
Is there enough HO to cover wards or on call or isit really oversaturated as what has been mentioned.
(Or isit just due to limited post available )
I would have expect a lighter workload and hence, more time due to the number of HOs.

It's kinda sad when people spent 5 years and ended up even more miserable but that's the reality now in Msia.
Hopefully things will improve soon. (Or else I won't be returning anytime soon :/)

yeah.. thats why undergraduate degree recognition is really important..
saves you alot of hassle..

to be honest, alot of it also comes down to experience and how much hands on you've done or been exposed to during your med school days.
You can study as much and be as passionate as you can but in the end, experiences and being safe play a bigger role here imo.

Interesting points you mentioned there.
i definitely agree that plans are hard to make esp when youre worried of making a mistake.
But drafting a management plan should be part and parcel of medical school, at which it is the best time to practise what you have learnt into clinical practice. (since you will be supervised), especially in admission units where you will see and clerk the patients for the first time and the nurses will be chasing after you regarding management plans. The seniors will be busy seeing other patients as well so they have a level of expectations on you.

depends what you mean by hands on procedures as well, venepuncture, cannulation, catheter, iv lines, abgs are all necessary procedures to know and practise before you start imo. The faster you get better at them, the less time you spend doing them and your work doesnt pile up. (im struggling getting cannulas into frail old ladies in geris with thin veins which collapses easily and multiple needle puncture sites from daily bloods. defo need more practice)

This post has been edited by Jckc: Apr 26 2017, 02:20 AM

For clinical skills well, we have to do quite abit. It's just that the nurses do them as well and opportunity comes and go depending on patient. So we have to fight for them to be done.

Tbh, I have to agree about how little factual knowledge actually helps.. In a way.
Knowledge is generally something you pick up and experienced over time. It's about knowing what's safe or dangerous and when to seek help it's important.

Yea, many fy1s are doing their part one now haha.

This post has been edited by Jckc: Apr 26 2017, 11:36 PM

The gmc has guidance on what we must be competent by graduation. (32 in general but my medical school has 8 extra so 40)
http://www.gmc-uk.org/Outcomes_for_graduat...df_61408029.pdf
(its at the last few pages which they have listed)

Its mandatory for students to be provisionally registered with gmc and graduate safely.
( and yes, we SHOULD be observed doing the procedure. However, due to certain simple procedures, such as bp or pulse rate OR time constraint of junior doctors, its always difficult to get someone to supervise you. We always try to do so if we're not comfortable or competent with the skill. For me, im comfortable doing bloods/cannulas/abgs and etc without supervision as long i know my limits as a student and not harming the patient whereas otherwise ill like to get the junior doc to supervise and comment on my technique and etc)

Yes and no imo. Practice makes perfect but as long youre willing to learn and improve throughout your career, you can be on par or be better in them than your peers. (a lot of europe-trained docs do not do much hands on skills so they have to learn from scratch when they work here)

lol so cmt has become 3 years in a nutshell.

there always been a acute internal med speciality but people tend to do both general and internal med that it becomes a combined speciality which you can do in 4 years if im not mistaken. (each requires 3 years and then you can spend an extra year to do the other).

There is still an excess this year but hopefully they can allocate them with no probs.
Awaiting the report from fpas.

the 2 weeks can be taken any time within the rotation. its just getting the approval from the rota manager.

sounds like an acute medicine/surgery admission rota. if he/she doesnt have nights, bless him/her lol.