I think banded jobs are more in bigger hospitals.

And I was told that working in Aberdeen can get about 500 to 1000 pounds per month extra compared to an average size hospital in Glasgow.

Congrats to those guys from Numed ...

I suppose they are on Tier 2 visa podrunner, as IIRC Tier 4 is student visa.

Jckc, mind elaborate further on 'standalone' post ? ......

Do they have equal opportunity as UK trained in securing further traning post FY2 ?

Tier 4 visa for F1-2. Then you apply for CMT/CST jobs towards middle of F2, and once you have a job, you’ll be issued a Tier 2 visa for the duration of that job, 3 to 4 years.

Thanks and wishing for further clarifications, the 15 or so of Numed alumni had obtained Tier 2 visa for being offered a salary exceeding GBP 30,000 pa , in your knowledge how many years of 'housemanship' training they had in Malaysia, and do they includes qualified and experienced MO's from Malaysia ?

Am I wrong to interpret  that the UK system allows Numeds with Tier 2 visa to be appointed in NHS undertaking actual F1 positions, and possibly F2 ?

Still in F2, applications start next month (for academic pathway) and November for the regular pathway, if I’m not mistaken.

Academic earlier, according to relative.

MRCP = specialist in Malaysia?

Yes, but that is just a postgraduate qualification - it may not confer professional recognition of specialty. Eg in the UK, you’ll need the CCST post MRCP to qualify as a specialist. In Singapore, you’ll need a Fellowship equivalent.

Wrong info

MRCP pathway is now known as parallel pathway. One must have 3 years of Internal Medicine training pre-MRCP (as MO. HO rotation not counted), then 1 year of Internal Medicine training post MRCP, then finally half a year of gazzettement (functioning as specialist but under supervision). So total duration to be gazzetted as a General Internal Medicine specialist in KKM is 4 and half years. Then for NSR registration, one need another one year after gazzettement before being qualified (total 5 and 1/2 years from start to finish to be able to register as GIM specialist in NSR). If you struggle to pass your MRCP, let's say 6 years before you finally clear all parts of MRCP, you still need the one year post MRCP training before being able to go for gazzettement. Don't simply sarcastically say "Malaysia Boleh" if you don't know the full facts la 

During the 4 years pregazzettement, the candidate must go through at least 8 sub-specialty rotations, namely cardio, neuro, respi, nephro, gastro, rheumato, endocrine, and ID. If not mistaken, geriatric, hemato and palliative are optional. Max duration for each rotation is 4 months. Anything more than that is not counted towards the 4 years training 

The rules have tightened considerably since 2016 because previously too many young MRCPians without experience. Simple procedures like chest tube, transvenous pacing, pericardial draining also cant do independently 

*PS gazzetted as GIM specialist means can only work as specialist in KKM hospitals. To be able to practice in private hospital as a GIM specialist, one needs NSR

Btw, are you sure you are working in the UK? The info that you have shared is actually wrong

CMT in the UK is now replaced with Internal Medicine Stage 1 training, which is only 2 years (for single CCT). You are expected to have full MRCP by the end of 2 years.
Then, you can choose to enter either single CCT or dual CCT

Single CCT for example GIM, is only 3 years.

So in summary
GIM pathway in the UK: 2 years of foundation training + 2 years of Internal Medicine Stage 1 + 3 years of GIM = 7 years postgraduation
GIM pathway in the Malaysia: 2 years of housemanship + 4 and 1/2 years of Internal Medicine training including gazettement + 1 year post gazettement for NSR registration = 7 and 1/2 years postgraduation


Source

Reference for UK training pathway

One thing I agree though, Malaysia Boleh! as our training is longer and more demanding in terms of procedures required to learn and workload

Yes you are right. If you are working a full time clinical post in government hospital in Malaysia, studying for MRCP can be difficult with all the oncalls and being drained from daily work. In addition, there is no protected study time like in Singapore or in the UK. In Singapore, the resident / MRCP candidate will be given one or 2 afternoon off just to study. Also, they have weekly tutorial from consultants and professors from NUS. In Malaysia, you are pretty much on your own.

BTW, UK is very short of Dr right now. As long as you have full MRCP, chances of getting a training post in the UK is actually quite high if you are not aiming for high demand supspecialty such as Cardiology or Gastroenterology.

But you're not considered an IMG, having graduated from medical school in the UK.  IMGs still need to do PLABs on top of MRCP right?  What's the difference between a training post and a non-training post?  The latter is called a trust grade doctor?    The latter is easier to get into, yes? Do correct me if wrong.  Thank you.

PLAB will be soon replaced by UKMLA soon in which both IMG and local graduates are required to take the tests. So in the future,  IMG will hv equal chance as well for their foundation years