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LuQEE
post Jun 3 2012, 07:22 PM

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done some reading before,
heard that, if pure oxy is used in deeper recommended depths, those gasses are much more compressed and everytime we take a gulp of air, the amount will be double or quadrupple than normal. so it will be dangerous for divers.
but in theory, if pure o2 is used in aquarium, the gasses will eventually evaporated in the air due to the air is less saturated than the water and surface agitation.
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gah~


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sang gemok
post Jun 3 2012, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Jun 3 2012, 07:22 PM)
done some reading before,
heard that, if pure oxy is used in deeper recommended depths, those gasses are much more compressed and everytime we take a gulp of air, the amount will be double or quadrupple than normal. so it will be dangerous for divers.
but in theory, if pure o2 is used in aquarium, the gasses will eventually evaporated in the air due to the air is less saturated than the water and surface agitation.
rclxub.gif

gah~

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complicated sgt tuh.huhu

anyway, gud luck bro.

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post Jun 3 2012, 07:42 PM

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guys..
apa jenis moss can survive in 29c??
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post Jun 3 2012, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(bariho @ Jun 3 2012, 07:42 PM)
guys..
apa jenis moss can survive in 29c??
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java moss. some says phoenix.huhu.gune fan lah nk bela moss. ok jer. kwn bela krismas moss 27-28c. ok jer
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post Jun 3 2012, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Jun 3 2012, 07:22 PM)
done some reading before,
heard that, if pure oxy is used in deeper recommended depths, those gasses are much more compressed and everytime we take a gulp of air, the amount will be double or quadrupple than normal. so it will be dangerous for divers.
but in theory, if pure o2 is used in aquarium, the gasses will eventually evaporated in the air due to the air is less saturated than the water and surface agitation.
rclxub.gif

gah~

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i recommend you read more on hyperoxia and oxygen toxicity... biggrin.gif or better, u go n ask those ppl that do arowana transport, what gas they use, why they use it n benefits of using it...

ALSO, o2 dosing may or may not increase your pH bro... since pH of water is mainly affected by carbonate, so i think, when concentration of o2 in your water increase, it will displace co2 in your water... (something about nerst equation, partial pressure bla3, gas law, ... i cant remember coz my chemistry is rusty beyond wd40 repair tongue.gif ) this is my theory based on my rusty chemistry knowledge... hope you can find out more (n probably experiment this) n share with us biggrin.gif

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post Jun 3 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(Malformed @ Jun 3 2012, 01:34 AM)
I haven't put in any fish in the tank. I had cleared the tank just yesterday, I put in gravels and stones in it. Then I replaced the media in my filter with new bio ring. After that I bought plants to put in the tank from a LFS.. I don't know if the worms came with the plants, but I already soaked the plants in a bucket of water first (maybe not thorough)... If I put in tetras I worry the worms will irritate them..
Ulat sampah kan sgt besar shocking.gif
cry.gif I feel you...
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i have guppy and oto in my tank... they dont seem to eat the worms also... just ignore only... 2 small i guess...
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post Jun 3 2012, 09:40 PM

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btw... new inspiration for aquascape??? ^^

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post Jun 3 2012, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(bariho @ Jun 3 2012, 07:42 PM)
guys..
apa jenis moss can survive in 29c??
so far, java moss seems growing uncontrobably inside my tank, flame is growing too and Süßwassertang, well most of them melted(maybe previous tank used chiller) but some still survives and growing slowly
tank: 29-31C, no fert used except fish poo and left-over dead fish & shrimp pieces.


QUOTE(kurangak @ Jun 3 2012, 08:30 PM)
i recommend you read more on hyperoxia and oxygen toxicity... biggrin.gif or better, u go n ask those ppl that do arowana transport, what gas they use, why they use it n  benefits of using it...
ALSO, o2 dosing may or may not increase your pH bro... since pH of water is mainly affected by carbonate, so i think, when concentration of o2 in your water increase, it will displace co2 in your water... (something about nerst equation, partial pressure bla3, gas law, ... i cant remember coz my chemistry is rusty beyond wd40 repair tongue.gif ) this is my theory based on my rusty chemistry knowledge... hope you can find out more (n probably experiment this) n share with us biggrin.gif
just got back after lepak-ing with them, they said, industrial/welding grade o2 (99.5%) is ok, but using atomizer + reactor helps to conserve $$ alot, or else you'll be cry.gif since for permanent setup,
the usage of that thing will cause you to sell ure kidney definitely. for temporary its ok though(i cant any lfs in labuan sweat.gif only pet shop selling furry animals lol). not sure the price to refil the o2 though too laugh.gif . this setup suitable for big monster fish la.. if small small one like planted tank, battery operated air pump is just fine. they said you can just hook to a converter and attach car battery to the pump with a few tweaks and can last more than 2 weeks or maybe more depending on your pump power consumption. using top filter is a bonus.
hurm.. maybe have to wait la to try this experiment.


QUOTE(sang gemok @ Jun 3 2012, 07:34 PM)
complicated sgt tuh.huhu
anyway, gud luck bro.
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no la bro.. kalau tau trick mesti senang punya, like shrimp keeping la.
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QUOTE(melodyworm @ Jun 3 2012, 09:27 PM)
i have guppy and oto in my tank... they dont seem to eat the worms also... just ignore only... 2 small i guess...
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really? my tetras got hyperexcited when they see those small2 worm..(btw are we talking about the same worm here? mine looks like white thread, about 1 to 1.5cm in length, usually emerge when i kacau my HOB...) they see one, they *slllluuurp* instantly...lol... sometimes they even fight for it too, coz i usually feed them once every 2 days...


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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Jun 3 2012, 10:44 PM)
just got back after lepak-ing with them, they said, industrial/welding grade o2 (99.5%) is ok, but using atomizer + reactor helps to conserve $$ alot, or else you'll be  cry.gif since for permanent setup,
the usage of that thing will cause you to sell ure kidney definitely[U]. for temporary its ok though(i cant any lfs in labuan  sweat.gif  only pet shop selling furry animals lol). not sure the price to refil the o2  though too  laugh.gif . this setup suitable for big monster fish la.. if small small one like planted tank, battery operated air pump is  just fine. they said you can just hook to a converter and attach car battery to the pump with a few tweaks and can last more than 2 weeks or maybe more depending on your pump power consumption. using top filter is a bonus.
hurm.. maybe have to wait la to try this experiment.

i like the bolded statement... lol... doh.gif

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post Jun 3 2012, 11:13 PM

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where to get limnopilos naiyanetri?
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post Jun 3 2012, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(bariho @ Jun 3 2012, 07:42 PM)
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apa jenis moss can survive in 29c??
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java moss can , but nop that nice loh

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post Jun 4 2012, 12:27 AM

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ok..
thanks guys..
but i dont want java moss..
tak cantik..hehe..
other moss recommend??
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post Jun 4 2012, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(bariho @ Jun 4 2012, 12:27 AM)
ok..
thanks guys..
but i dont want java moss..
tak cantik..hehe..
other moss recommend??
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if ur tank is 26-27 than many many moss u can have it

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post Jun 4 2012, 01:22 AM

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deric....
here the tank pic......

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still dont setup anything yet......
just try something out n try to find best way to make it look like "avatar" movie......

something like this......

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i just went to irene aquarium today n find just 1 driftwood that i like n river sand.......
its hard to find a tree-like driftwood there......
anyone know best place to buy driftwood with good price around kj n kl?......

if u wonder what the little green thing in that tank....

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i actually a seramic candle holder....
it for my paddletail newt hiding place......
maybe i will put java fern on top of that thing......
it will look more natural.....

any comment n suggestion?......
coz this is my 1st time do planted aquarium......
for co2 problem,i already know how to handle it......
i just want to know how the best way to make water cooler without using chiller.....
i want it lower 3 to 4 celcius......

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post Jun 4 2012, 01:41 AM

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Add fan like my tank temp is 26-27 max.

Wat is ur budget of drift wood?wat kind of shape u looking for?
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post Jun 4 2012, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(deric79k @ Jun 4 2012, 01:41 AM)
Add fan like my tank temp is 26-27 max.

Wat is ur budget of drift wood?wat kind of shape u looking for?
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can u show ur fan setup?........

budget around rm15 to rm20 each for big like the one pic.......
i want it to look like tree with root on the bottom n some branch on top of it just like in the pic.......
i want to plant christmast moss of top of it n some marimo moss on the root.....
what do u think obout it?.......
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QUOTE(bettagerm @ Jun 4 2012, 01:49 AM)
can u show ur fan setup?........

budget around rm15 to rm20 each for big like the one pic.......
i want it to look like tree with root on the bottom n some branch on top of it just like in the pic.......
i want to plant christmast moss of top of it n some marimo moss on the root.....
what do u think obout it?.......
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you may find the wood you want here , within your budget of rm20.
Nilufar Pet & Aquatic at 2nd Floor Tesco @ Old Klang Road. http://www.nilufar.com.my/
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post Jun 4 2012, 05:33 AM

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suggestion:
if you want to make green vines like in avatar and tarzan movie,
make a 3 braided knot using 3 individual nylon rope and covered them with moss
example how the rope will look like before covered in moss:

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post Jun 4 2012, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Jun 3 2012, 08:30 PM)
i recommend you read more on hyperoxia and oxygen toxicity... biggrin.gif or better, u go n ask those ppl that do arowana transport, what gas they use, why they use it n  benefits of using it...

ALSO, o2 dosing may or may not increase your pH bro... since pH of water is mainly affected by carbonate, so i think, when concentration of o2 in your water increase, it will displace co2 in your water... (something about nerst equation, partial pressure bla3, gas law, ... i cant remember coz my chemistry is rusty beyond wd40 repair tongue.gif ) this is my theory based on my rusty chemistry knowledge... hope you can find out more (n probably experiment this) n share with us biggrin.gif
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i think, first question you would consider: what will happen if there is spark or fire in your house/cabinet.
will the oxygen tank goes KABOOM ?!


Added on June 4, 2012, 9:01 am
QUOTE(arrow @ Jun 4 2012, 02:05 AM)
you may find the wood you want here , within your budget of rm20.
Nilufar Pet & Aquatic at 2nd Floor Tesco @ Old Klang Road. http://www.nilufar.com.my/
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nilufar was so the best place to look for cheap driftwood and decorative rocks smile.gif

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post Jun 4 2012, 10:15 AM

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Can I know when do you use protein skimmer in a planted tank?

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