To Fi-Ba-SS
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To PF VIII/IX
It is a question...
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Jan 16 2013, 07:15 PM
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To Fi-Ba-SS
or To PF VIII/IX It is a question... |
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Jan 17 2013, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Jan 17 2013, 01:36 PM) i listened to both of them, and finally settled with PFVIII in my pocket. itu gua ada tanya dekat dalam. muppetface jua ada beri cadangan.Both of them are great, FIBASS has the best detail and transparency ever i try in any earphone in the market, amazingly present and superb for detail lover, it has balance and correct sound. PFVIII is a weird and unique earphone/bud? The reason why i pick PFVIII over FIBASS, PF offered a total new listening experience, nostalgic, old school and feel of the music, frankly, i dont get them in any high end inears, include expensive Custom like JH audio, westone etc... When using PFVIII, i'm no longer worry about detail, stage, neutrality, bass impact, treble extension etc... i'm using it because i like the voice of the song, i'm involved deeply into the song, not how detail the earphone can produce. So... FIBASS is easier to accept by user, while PFVIII is an odd situation, either you like it a lot, or it is a piece of crap to you, try them if you are able to. You can check out how head-fiers discuss on their experience for PF series, you will be shocked on how many they throw away all their expensive branded product after got their hand on PF earphone. http://www.head-fi.org/t/613641/final-audi...sion-thread/900 tapi, VIII or IX? It seriously lack the involving treble and can hardly sense bass presence. My Bon Jovi really sux le But vocals So, I'm not sure how I should choose liao. Hmmm. |
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Apr 21 2013, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(beh0211 @ Apr 21 2013, 04:14 PM) Hey guys any comment on FAD Heaven IV vs Adagio 3 ? I owned adagio 3 and need some comparison among them both What is it that you want to hear bro?Heaven IV is sharp in treble, bass tight but light. Can hear the bass note clearly but the impact is not hard. Suitable for vocals. Adagio 3 is less refined, bass has more impact. QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 21 2013, 11:37 PM) Thread owner add me to the list for FI-BA-SB (Heaven S) owner =) i sold my se535 SE, and still miss heaven S.just bought one today, still only half happy since i'm still doubting myself for not getting the SE535 instead. Even thought of the Heaven VI for a moment too... One of the main factor for decided the Heaven S was probably the price difference and the casing? lol I'm planning to get the Jaybird Bluebuds X, and getting the Heaven S and Jaybird together is almost the same amount of getting the SE535/ Heaven VI. That kind of decided for me, although for vocals no doubt i'm still torn to the SE535 =( I tried the Heaven IV, but not the Adagio 3, so sorry can't be of much help. I can tell you that the Heaven IV has very little bass though. |
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Apr 22 2013, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 22 2013, 12:24 AM) really? why did you sell your se535 SE? I think the sound is amazing especially the vocals. Don't put too much focus on burn in, especially BA driver. Just enjoy the song as it goes. Your brain will burn in for you.What do you miss about the heaven S? I read burning in has a big effect on this series, hopefully it'll be the same for me =/ Heaven S has something special which almost all of my IEM experience doesn't. The hints of a hall-like space, the superb emotional feel when listening. I know, this Heaven S is far far far away from being neutral or balanced. It's like in-yo-face sound signature. Very exciting to listen to. And you can almost forgot about its weaknesses when you listen (YES, got weaknesses, but you won't really mind unless you listen to earphones more than listen to music). Not like 535SE. Not "special" enough for me to get drunk in it. Well, will i still buy sth else if i got Heaven S? Frankly, yes. It's my brain problem |
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Apr 22 2013, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 22 2013, 12:50 AM) lol have you tried the other FADs as well? Do they give the same feeling as the Heaven S? No, misunderstanding here. I didn't own Heaven S before. Just trying them out. Tried almost, if not all, of the sub rm4k FAD. From PF 2, then adagio 2, 3, 5, then heaven 4, C, S, and the expensive PF VIII and FI-BA-SS.why did you sell your Heaven S as well if it was something special and different? Could just keep it and get the others? =P Fibass is the most unforgettable one. |
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Apr 28 2013, 06:15 PM
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As a devil's advocate, FAD series treble sucks on my Bon Jovi. It was over-expressed, making the treble sounds artificial. Not even Heaven VI or Fi-BA-SS could fix it. Staying away from those, FAD shines brightly (pun intended), especially for vocals.
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Jun 7 2013, 12:40 AM
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Impressions:
Biggest difference in BA Heaven series and Dynamic PF series is how they render bass and treble. Both have magical mids, but the bass and treble are... WOW. BA is totally opposite of what dynamic driver should be doing, ie. in FAD series, BA has stronger bass, while dynamic has the more natural treble. Speaking from memory of Heaven S (slightly veiled, powerful-v-shaped ss), Heaven C (slightly brighter and less veiled than S), Fi-BA-SS (bass with quantity, wider stage, wonderful ss), Heaven 4 & 6 (more or less same with the predecessors, with the added longer tube housing creating a wonderful reverb), PF 8 (forgotten most, remembered for the nostalgic feel) and PF 9 (even extreme than PF8 from faint memory). |
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Jun 7 2013, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Jun 7 2013, 07:35 AM) I've tried the heaven c and own the heaven s, and I strongly disagree that the heaven s is powerful v shaped though. The mids are not recessed at all but are very forward. In fact its the most prominent one compared to the bass and treble. Heaven c as you said is less bright, more flat and lighter impact in all areas. No worry man. It's just perceptions. Haha.And PF series wasn't as bad as I thought it was on first impression. Trouble is, I may slowly enjoy it now... |
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Jun 7 2013, 02:44 PM
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I don't really know which amp to use for FAD series. PF i think it should pair well with tubes. For Heaven series, I guess it should go well with tubes or anything slow and refined.
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Jun 9 2013, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Jun 9 2013, 04:22 PM) The reason you might feel it is V shape, i believe because the mid range of Heaven's presented in thinner sound, comparing against Westone or Shure series. But the PF series' mids It had not emphasize on that particular frequency range, but to flat out all range in similar zone, so you won't feel any outstanding in mid especially. |
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Jun 9 2013, 11:44 PM
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That's why it's always YMMV in audio.
Btw, Final Audio products really need a different perspective in the listeners in order to appreciate what it brings. It's just like literally forget about all the conventional sounds and listen to how FAD redefines the music. Some may say it is terrible, but I think it's unique. |
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Jun 13 2013, 01:27 AM
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beautiful FADs
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Jun 24 2013, 08:51 PM
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Damn I nearly shed a tear when listening to 蔡琴: 不了情 . Lousy la. Haha. Guy also wanna cry =.=
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Jun 24 2013, 11:55 PM
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Jul 10 2013, 02:18 PM
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I always think it's due to the housing.
Well, I deduce that FAD really run away from the conventional "Accurate" sounding listening experience to a polarized experience. Yes, either you hate it (or is looking for accuracy, neutral, bass, etc) or you'll love it (poison)! Especially how they render the vocals + reverb |
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Jul 12 2013, 08:42 AM
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Jul 14 2013, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(walabies @ Jul 14 2013, 11:44 AM) That day Mr Takai the creators of all FAD headphones are earphones was there in the klav show. Did anyone had a glimpse on him? According to him the things he created is tuned by ears not digital. That's why it will take very long time for their tuning. and that's why their products are so unique and yet appealing |
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Jul 21 2013, 10:11 PM
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Aug 15 2013, 11:13 PM
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I don't know why, but it seems as a preliminary impression, Heaven VI sounds really thick compared to Heaven V. It feels very much like comparing Heaven S and Heaven C to me. Heaven V sounds very plain like drinking water, while Heaven VI sounds thick like Starbucks.
Edit: Apparently Japanese Made-n-Tuned FAD really sings Japanese songs brilliantly! It seems that the songs came alive through the unique coloration. It's not neutral, but it's very enjoyable! Tried drums and cymbals on Heaven V. I was really shocked by the music. I believed I was listening to dynamic driver! This post has been edited by phillip88: Aug 16 2013, 12:02 AM |
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