QUOTE(GRexer @ Jun 10 2012, 10:38 PM)
Hm.. I see a lot of persons complaining about the lower profile tyres in FLX SE making the ride harsher, but how many persons actually made a back to back comparison with a stock standard 1.3 shod with the 14" wheels? There is a difference when my car is shod with 50 or 55 series, but that's just because I have a fully stiffened chassis and runs on high spring rate adjustables.
Seriously, both the 1.3 FLX Executive and 1.6 FLX SE felt the same to me in terms of comfort levels, good enough for daily driving, I have this feeling everytime I ride in or drive someone else's car, but I always have that grin/smirk back on my face as soon as I step back into the driver's seat of any one of my cars.
As for the DBW, I think I'm really not used to the lag in throttle response after the initial input, really does get some getting used to, definitely will need to get a dbw throttle controller if I decide to proceed with the Saga FLX as a daily driver.
Maybe my comfort level is different from others, I actually felt a Merc E200 Kompressor "floaty" on normal roads, no doubt, it's comfy.
AFAIK, this RM2k discount is standard over any Proton Edar official branch, not sure if it's available at dealers, it's easy to identify branches, they have every single car for test drive, most dealers only have the latest model or hottest selling model.
QUOTE(GRexer @ Jun 10 2012, 10:54 PM)
I never had the intention of getting the manual, took one of my salesmen's Saga FLX manual out for a spin before, I was over-revving every shifts due to exactly this nature.
Can't blame me, I'm a poor dude that has only manual transmissioned cars on cable throttle.

Definitely gonna miss the response whenever I sit in a newer DbW car.
As far as I understand, you're the exact same of my kind before I own a BLM. I was all the way racing carburetor and LSD gear oil injected absorber kinda guy. If you haven't been driving and soft legs car for long time, FLX, be it FLX SE is all comfortable for you, regardless tyre 50/55 series. However. my case is slightly different. Before I sold off my WIRA1.6, I already bought the BLM. Few of the comparison and might be your advice in the future:
1) I did 160kmh on MEX with my WIRA, RPM was never too high, car is always steady even the big corner after Sri Kembangan R&R towards KLIA. But even if I did 140kmh in my BLM for the same corner, it felt like the car is going to turtle anytime. The amount of bodyroll is up the an extend of unbearable.
2) I've changed to 15" wheels after a month, and figured 55 series on a BLM doesn't work well. Sangkut fender very often. However, I compare my car with other people's 15" 50 series tyre, mine is more comfortable. Less harsh compare to the 50 series. FLX doesn't have any problem so far with 50/55 series tyre because of the stiffer spring, less free play for the tyre to hit the fender. Heard FLX SE's spring even harder as the car originally fixed with a 15" wheels, most probably Plotong already figured the soft spring is going to create more trouble in the future, and therefore they change to a stiffer spring. I've also test ride/drive a few FLX SE and found they indeed much stiffer than a BLM/FL. However, I couldn't feel much difference between an FLX with FLX SE. The only difference I can tell is the tyre. 14" 60 tyres on FLX, whereas 15"50 tyres on FLX SE, definitely FXL SE is bumpier.
3) When I drive WIRA 1.6 and or my ISWARA, the feeling of the gas pedal is immediate, direct, ultra sensitive. Its more like when I touch the pedal, immediately I hear induction sound from my pretty racing filter, especially when I use K&N, it does sounds like CHARGING. After I got my BLM, the 1st thing in mind is, holy crap!!! WTF am I supposed to do with an electronic pedal?! The general feedback from the pedal is lag, infact DEAD! I floor the pedal, it took a second to rev up my RPM! I've been searching high + low for cure, ended up some guy come and offer me something like pay him 300 bucks, he'll setup a piggy bag to over ride my pedal control, so the car gain more response and horse power. Right before I went to ATM to get money, some sifu here saved my ass, namely Kenjilew. Those piggy bag might work well on 4AT old FL/BLM, but very less effect to FLX CVT/Manual cars. The throttle response can be improve by changing a nut. Don't ask me how, because I don't know. So, save all the money you gonna spend and buy those sifu teh tarik so they help you to "update" your throttle response better.
4) After I installed a vacuum gauge on my BLM(I have a vacuum gauge on every of my car, even my lawn mower), I figured the throttle response is NOT slow. By reading the amount of suction when you touch on the pedal you'll see the whole intake system LOSS vacuum very quickly. That is the proof of none lag throttle response. However, according to my previous experience, it felt more like - you change to 4G63T throttle body to your 4G15P, without updating your fuel rail, fuel pump, fuel regulator not boost up, injector remain standard, even computer hasn't tune yet. The very 1st time you test drive your newly installed oversized throttle body, that's the exact same feeling of DbW. Lay man term as, open mouth too big, sucked too much air inside. My next project is to collect 1 of the dirtiest air-filter and stuff it on my car and see what happen

Currently this is all base on my theory as I read from the vacuum gauge.
5) Last but not least, I'm still switching on wipers when I trying to negotiate right turn on my BLM

Changing driving habit from full mechanical machine to a full electronic controlled vehicle is hard, but once you get used to it, you actually enjoy the new level of comfort driving experience. For example, a heavily modified WIRA manual, when you're doing like 3krpm, suddenly infront slow down(not totally stop), you release your gas pedal and your car start to jerk because of the inertia kicked back, with DbW you say bye bye to this forever

And after that, when you get back to your old school vehicle, then you appreciate the immediate response of these old machines, the direct feelings from the road, buttsecking strut feedback that tells you every single detail from the road.

The girls is sitting out there, and they're my favorite among all my other cars. Its not that I have a newer SAGA and forgot about the old SAGA. Both of them have different characteristics. I learnt to enjoy each of their own characters and still slowly trying to adapt my driving style to use them both on a daily basis.