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Model Kits Gundam & Mecha Modelling Thread V25, Excitement Embodied

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post Jul 12 2012, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(onnylam @ Jul 12 2012, 08:36 AM)
A little off-topic info:

Gundams in Seed/Seed Destiny will be greyish when they're inactive or out of fuel (so called deactive mode), but a few Gundams will not have this kind of issue, since they're nuclear powered, suits such as Freedom, Strike Freedom and Justice. Correct me if I'm wrong, been years since I watched Seed/Seed Destiny smile.gif
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Yes all gundams from the seed universe had this thing called PS armor and when deactivated it'll lost its colors. Nuke powered ones will not do that in mid battle since they had infinite fuel, others rely on some battery system and when those run out, it deactivate. But even with infinite energy, the nuke wan is occasionally shown with deactivated mode mainly during maintenance or in hangar scene. Rember the first time Freedom is shown when Kira gundam-jack that thing with lacus?

But the druggies wan im not sure, i don recall those ever shown in PS armor deactivated mode. Although in the scene its clearly stated that they had run out of energy, they still retain its colors. I've read from somewhere that those actually are deactivated all the time and only activated when an impact is about to occur to save energy.
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post Jul 12 2012, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(p8balls @ Jul 12 2012, 05:41 PM)
Hello to all!

I just bought my first ever gundam model kit while I was holidaying in Tokyo. It's the ZGMF-X19A ∞ Justice Gundam Master Grade. I've always wanted one and couldn't resist purchasing it! I know it's MG and from what i've read online, it may be a bit daunting for a first timer but i'm gonna give it a go anyway (wish me luck). It's amazing to see all your pictures and hopefully this will be a start to an exciting albeit expensive (lol) collection.

My question is this: Where can I buy a model cutter/plier and knife? Anywhere around Subang/Sunway would be great but other locations in Klang Valley is also quite alright.

Thanks a bunch!
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Gratz n welcome to the hobby. If u had prior experience in building kits like planes or cars, then Gundam will be piece of cake. If ur totally new to modelling, then Justice mayb abit though for newbie but its not too bad. Just for reminder, every1 will make mistake on their 1st couple of kits but dont b afraid, if u dont make any u wont learn, plus 99% of the time mistake can be fix. If u did any, just ask around here we'll assist u in anyway possible.

As for modelling tools, well if ur el-cheapo like me, just go to any hardware store to get a cutter n box knife, if u nid more specific tools then visit ur nearest hobby store. Im from Subang as well, and sad to say the nearest hobby shop is in Damansara area and KL. U can order online as well, try AFHobby, his shop is in Pandan Indah but he offer courier services.
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post Jul 13 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 13 2012, 11:48 AM)
I kinda like the china limited gundam. it's like a novelty item.

if bandai positions itself to capitalise on the chinese market, i won't be surprised if the major bootleggers will get sued again.

btw, is TT legit? Always thought that they were bootleggers but someone mentioned that they are bandai endorsed?
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No TT is not legit, as far as i know anyway. B-Club is 100% legit.

But the whole legit or not business is abit hard to judge since there are alot of things going on behind the scene. Some speculate that Dragon Momoko is a subsidiaries of Bandai, some say Bandai sell their defective/old molds to DM and DM make cheap kits base on legit Bandai mold so that Bandai could cash in on the sales of the molds which would otherwise been trash. That would xplain y some DM kits are so similar quality wise to the ori Bandai wan. But its all pure speculation anyway, and to be save just buy original kits.
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post Jul 13 2012, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 13 2012, 12:40 PM)
that arguement makes no sense really if you ask me. bandai probably loses more money from cannibalised sales as compared to what miserable amounts that they can get from selling thier old molds away.
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Well what if its this way; DM is Bandai itself but in different name to dissociate from the parent comp to avoid destroying their brand name. These defective/old molds is sold to DM but not in the literal sense, sales as in dumping these thing into DM portfolio but stated as "sales" in their account book. And since ppl hu buy fake kits are rather hard to be swayed to buy ori anyway, DM (Bandai) decided to just sale kits base off these defective/old molds which would otherwise been trash anyway to try capture some sales in the knock off markets. This way, not only will Bandai get to recycle defective/old molds, sales of these kits would also go to Bandai indirectly. Of cuz all these is just pure speculation, take it with a grain of salt.

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post Jul 14 2012, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Khai62 @ Jul 14 2012, 09:14 PM)
This must be the weirdest core fighter ever  laugh.gif

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look like mosquito to me. Inb4 Gundam FX final ultimate weapon, a can of shieldtox....
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post Jul 17 2012, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(Tyrant Sparda @ Jul 17 2012, 08:32 AM)
eh really? lol long time havent watch seed so cant remember correctly..... sweat.gif

btw, beli....jangan tak beli  brows.gif almost complete my seed MG collection.....waiting for Buster, Aegis.....oh wai, more to come....Savior, Providence, Legend, Justice, Blast Impulse, forbidden, raider, calamity  unsure.gif .....not to mention Gouf ignited and Seed Zakus  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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dont expect the others to be release, main villian possible but others no way. Especially the druggies wan and gouf, not only were they not popular and hideous (druggies), it would also piss off alot of UC hardcore fanatic (gouf and zakus to an extend) since its design is basically copy pasta, to use it in anything other then UC is pure sacrilegious to them. Since there are alot of UC hardcore fanatic and is one of the biggest cust Bandai hav, they are not so stupid to piss them off and drive away their cows.
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post Jul 20 2012, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jul 20 2012, 01:48 PM)
so far zakuII is the only bad guys in PG series, will shinanju be second?

(either Shinanju or Sazabi, I will buy it without 2nd thought)

(Let's hope the next PG wont be destiny tongue.gif )
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not likely. Usually antagonist come after protagonist, if Unicorn is not announce, Sinanju wont be either. Bandai oledi said that Unicorn is not feasible at the moment.

Beside, PG is not Bandai mainline, there was a time where there were no new PG for years n years till some speculate that Bandai had discontinued the line. It was not until strike that PG silence is broken, so dont expect any PG to be release/announce every other year cuz unlike MG there is no specific time frame for PG.

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post Jul 20 2012, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jul 20 2012, 02:49 PM)
true... ... but i think if talk about polularity, shinanju > unicorn, no?

perhaps at the end...
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PG Ball...
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Popularity wise, they are about the same. No doubt that if Sinanju is release, many ppl will grab it in a heart beat and Bandai would rake in $$$$$ but ultimately its still an antagonist suit. Zeon fanbois would be delighted but most average joe would prefer the protagonist since they are the main character, what the story revolves around (and in the context of Unicorn, the good guys), aka more relatable. Thus if Bandai do not solve their PG Unicorn problem, Sinanju would likely not be release 1st (cash cow wise, they can also reuse the frame for Banshee and Full Armor so potential for more $$$$$ lies in Unicorn). The best time i could think of would be next year, to rake in the anticipation/hype that is the final epi of Unicorn OVA. If it were to be delayed say 2 years after then it'll be a big failure on Bandai's part.

As for PG Ball, Bandai is not that desperate. If they were, it would had been release long ago. As i said, PG is not their mainline thus they dont take chances or risk cuz developing and designing the mold is expensive. If they hav no kits that could be sold in PG, they would not even bother to do anything with the line.

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post Jul 20 2012, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jul 20 2012, 03:52 PM)
i thought is PG unicorn? brows.gif

last time hear they got work on it but keep failing of fragile parts...

then 2nd time hear they actually "still" working on it?
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Yes the news was release during an interview bout Bandai future plans years ago. They said they were working on it but found out its too fragile without any diecast which would make the kit bloody expensive and would like to wait for technology to mature 1st b4 trying. From my estimation, they hav till next year when epi7 is release, what better way to release a highly anticipated kit then during the premier of the final episodes that the kits is base on.

Speaking of which, i also rember Bandai said in that interview MG Kshatriya not feasible at the moment and MG V2 in progress. Where the heck is the V2 Bandai sad.gif im disappoint

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post Jul 20 2012, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Ksano @ Jul 20 2012, 05:49 PM)
Guys a quick question here.
What was the name of the top coat spray that can get at ace hardware?
I remember It was posted on this thread but cant remember which page..
help help tongue.gif (sorry if not appropriate to ask)

oh got it... krylon brand.. tq!

here my gundam picture to avoid OOT tongue.gif
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krylon.

Although if u hav an airbrush u can actually create ur own top coat. Mix Future Floor Acrylic with Tamiya clear flat can giv u flat or semi-gloss (dun rember what % of FF and tamiya will giv what result, hav to experiment on it). If u wan gloss spray 100% future floor.
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post Jul 23 2012, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jul 23 2012, 12:27 PM)
liquid on the ground.. glue? whistling.gif another kit that cannot stand on it's own? doh.gif
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why r u surprise? most seed design are unbalance anyway with all those crazy backpacks, over the top side skirts and what not.
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post Jul 23 2012, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jul 23 2012, 12:57 PM)
true, but seeing as Aegis DOES NOT have a giant backpack, much like the first 5 X series, i don't see why it shouldn't be able to stand on it's own
i don't think the massive side skirts would be unbalancing the kit too much, and seeing as Strike, Duel, Blitz (and assuming Buster) can all stand on their own so far, i don't see why Aegis wouldn't be able to
although it is a given that most SEED kits have oversized backpacks, but side skirts, not so much, i think?
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The key point is this:
1. The side skirt pointy end does not touch the ground, so no additional balance point
2. The side skirts is big and since this is MG, details n inner parts are bound to be included, it will be heavy
3. Attachment to the hip are not that much different as attachment to the back. The problematic joint that plague all unbalance kit (which is the hip area connecting the two leg limbs, the feet, the ankle, the knee) are not address nor mitigated since at the end of the day, those joints that i mention are all located below the parts that contributed to the most weight (aka the side skirts). If the joints are not stiffen it'll bend since weight is pulling it down from above.
4. Add to the point above, since tis is a transforming kit its joint will not be stiffen to aid in the transformation process. Not to mention any hidden joints below the highlighted problem area which is required to do the transformation will further weaken the structure rigidity below the hip.

a very simple fix really, just extend the pointy bit to touch the ground, giv it an additional "leg" (well 2 to be precise since it does have 2 side skirt) and all balance issue would be solve. This ofcuz means changing the design somewhat since in the show it really doesnt extend that long. Up to Bandai to address tis issue (or not).

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post Jul 23 2012, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(TaurusOxford @ Jul 23 2012, 01:41 PM)
Really, this is simply another kit that's gonna require an action base if you want to put it in any sort of pose.
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Yes v hav that option as well, but action base also means additional shelf spaces. To some where shelf spaces is a luxury, it may not be the ideal solutions.

QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jul 23 2012, 01:38 PM)
well you do have some points there, however my argument was relating to the fact that it doesn't have a huge backpack to unbalance it, but as you mentioned, the side attachments may not have that much difference as attachments on the back, however they are still symmetrical and may, to a certain extent, be able to balance on their own.. granted it may require a lot of effort posing and standing it up
however, the weight being at the hip instead of the back would grant it greater stability than the latter, seeing as the center of gravity would be much lower
but! it IS a newer kit, so the legs may be able to hold the kit up properly.. and as i said earlier, i'll reserve judgement for until the kit is released or is in it's final stages of development.. i'm confident Bandai will work out the kinks and little details, seeing as how well the X-Series line is going so far..


yes u hav a point in center of gravity being lower then if it would a backpack. We may b able to pose with it on its own if the side skirt could be oriented in such a way that the weight pulling it down does not goes beyond the joint bending threshold. Im not sure if it could swing forward/backward though? if i could then the above option could be use.

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post Jul 25 2012, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Rhasense @ Jul 25 2012, 07:45 AM)
Soooo,  is it safe to say they arent gonna be announcing a new PG gundam this year?

Was hoping for a pg banshee or unicorn. :\
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u can nvr b sure, but as i said b4 PG is not Bandai's mainline so dont expect it to b release every year, if there are no suitable PG kit to b made, Bandai wont bother with the line unlike MG where new design had to b made almost every month.

also as stated b4, Bandai did made a prototype PG Unicorn but its too expensive due to the die cast part tey had to use to make it less fragile. Bandai oledi stated its not possible to make it at the moment without incurring massive cost to the user, thus tey put it on hold while tey r developing other tech/method to solve tis prob. On a marketing stand point, its also not a great idea to release it tis year since there will b no Unicorn OVA epi at least until next year summer. Even if tey did complete whatever prob tey had wit PG Unicorn, if im Bandai CEO, i'll instruct them to release it to coincide with the OVA to maximize profit and generate hype. Business 101.

And on that note, i think if v will ever get a PG Unicorn, it'll b end of next year around Christmas time to coincide with the final epi 7 and present giving times, if it were to be delayed beyond that then im afraid the longer it delayed the least likely v will ever get 1 after the show has ended and its popularity goes down.

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post Jul 25 2012, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Rhasense @ Jul 25 2012, 09:50 AM)
Price is no obstacle , if someone is planning on buying a PG they should expect a hefty price tag.
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That is true to a certain extend. To those who r willing to fork out say 1-2k for a kit, then sure he/she wont care if its another 500 more. But for those "sitting on the fence" that extra 500 is off putting considering that the 500 can b use to purchase extra 2 MG. Honestly speaking, there aren't alot in the former category but there are alot more in the latter category.

Bandai needs to make sure their PG can sell and sell well cuz the mold is expensive, the time wasted on developing n designing is expensive, tey nid to make sure tey can sell as much as possible not as high as possible to break even as fast as possible cuz in business, sales base on volume will almost always surpass sales base on value. At least tat is what i think Bandai is thinking bout when tey said "it'll incurred massive cost to the user so we'll put it on hold".

On a positive note, seeing as unicorn is massively popular not only in Japan, 90% probability it'll be made PG since many has been asking and anticipating for it. Im sure Bandai exec eyes turn $.$ everytime some1 mention Unicorn. And when Unicorn is made, Sinanju will come next as its popularity is arguably even better then Unicorn since there r alot of zeon fanboys within Japan.

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post Jul 27 2012, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jul 27 2012, 10:33 AM)
they meld together really well too.. really one of the nicer kits bandai has released thumbup.gif i hope i'm able to find a discounted one too
and as much as i hope they make a Strike 2.0, there are better things to make MG first tongue.gif but i think we'll still have to go through a Strike 2.0 since the SEED line is getting so much attention now doh.gif
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Strike is still a relatively new kit, hey at least it has full innerframe. Things like GPO2A doesn't even hav innerframe in the lower half of the leg section, mostly just 2 pieces of plastic joint together. If anything, those old kits like GPO2A, GPO1, etc deserve a 2.0 more than Strike. Heck even Sazabi n Nu deserve 1 more than Strike. If Bandai release strike 2.0 1st instead, i'll b extremely disappointed.
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post Jul 27 2012, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(ascentic @ Jul 27 2012, 01:34 PM)
Since this year 2012 is the year of SEEDS,... so it's expected to have more SEEDS then other series  icon_rolleyes.gif
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not exactly, so far v hav:
2 Seed MG 2 more in the future (confirm)
3 Age MG 1 more in the future (confirm)
1 Wing MG more in the future (duno how many duno when but Bandai confirm said coming tis year end)
1 UC MG

So i would say so far, Age n Seed got the main attention MG wise tis year. But i wonder whats coming in December, which is traditionally Bandai's big, highly anticipated, very expensive kit to coincide with Christmas gift giving. Mayb tey'll troll us n not hav any Dec kit.....

RG line well v oledi hav 2 UC kit (1 more speculating coming) and 1 Seed kit (dun count sky grasper since tat 1 not a full kit).


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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Jul 27 2012, 02:40 PM)
as much as i would like to have those older kits in 2.0 form, we both know bandai will not grant us our wishes.. instead, SEED fanboys would get the most attention due to this year having the remaster series in the spotlight
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sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif don really like seed design......
Well at least it kept my wallet thick and fat, so rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Jul 28 2012, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(onnylam @ Jul 28 2012, 10:41 PM)
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really, with feet like this, I have to wonder, how in the world is it suppose to stand properly?
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It cant, well at least the prototype that bandai had shown us cant; tey glue it to the ground n still it fall back. Dun forget it'll b transformable as well so it b xtra fragile/weak. Duno the end product will b the same or not, or tis will be another one of those kit that require a stand.
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post Jul 30 2012, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(htpkevin @ Jul 30 2012, 12:16 PM)
well my target is PG 00-raiser  biggrin.gif So thought of skipping MG 00 raiser. Save 00 raiser for PG xD. But am getting other MGs like 00 seven sword, exia ignition mode and also 00 quanta  biggrin.gif
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despite its name, PG raiser is actually not "perfect", in fact the MG one is better balance wise. U will get frustrated very fast when dealing wit PG raiser and I would always advise ppl to get the MG ones if tey r thinking of getting the PG.

If ur thinking of MG 00 7s, here r some cons;
a) weight issue, obvious due to the crazy large weapons. The shoulder n waist will tend to lean to 1 side
b) unlike the red frame, no stand is included to hold d big ass sword so the only way to pose with it is attach to shoulder which gave rise to problem a
c) no LED included, at least the raiser gave u 1, 7s u hav to buy separately
d) the xtra attachment for the katar (which allows u to attach it to the forearm/shoulder/combine) is hollow on the back, very un-MG like and look out of place. If u dunwan use tat attachment, then the only way to pose wit the katar is attach to the knee. Holding it with just the hand alone is also not viable although technically u can, it has a very weak connections to the hand peg.
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:47 PM

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^ Frankly speaking despite how the series goes, Age does hav good looking MS. Age 3 Orbital is quite good looking as does the Clanche custom. I might even get a MG Age3 Orbital when it is release.

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