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Model Kits Gundam & Mecha Modelling Thread V25, Excitement Embodied

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TheAdmiral
post Aug 2 2012, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Aug 2 2012, 12:59 PM)
I'm more into Orbital though. but AGE-FX does look good (except for those green "GN bits" pieces laugh.gif)
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I can see the reason why ppl will like FX but personally to me its meh. If/When FX is made MG, i can oledi see all those bits suffer from the same problem as all previous funnel kits like HiNu n SF.

All i can hope is that Bandai dont skip Orbital and goes straight to FX. Kesian orbital doesnt even hav much screen time, 2-3 epi b4 its thrash and then got replace. We haven heard anything from Bandai bout Age3 right not even the normal ones? lets hope tey dont completely skip it (like Wing) cuz among the Age kit, to me Age3 look the best and if i were to get my 1st Age kit that will be it.

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post Aug 2 2012, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Aug 2 2012, 06:45 PM)
I bet it's gonna be mid or end of next year rolleyes.gif
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i think it'll be early next year or perhaps end of this year (there is still 1 more MG unannounced to go to fill up the 1 MG per month quota for this year) cuz next year the only running gundam show is unicorn. i think bandai will concentrate on that instead particularly in mid and end year to coincide with unicorn epi 6 n 7.
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post Aug 7 2012, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Aug 7 2012, 12:58 PM)
anyone noe where to find RG Strike Rogue wub.gif
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doesn't exist
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post Aug 7 2012, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Aug 7 2012, 01:59 PM)
it does, as a special limited release expo item whistling.gif

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hmm.gif din kno tat. Anyway y waste money on it, if wan just paint d regular strike to pink, problem solve.
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post Aug 7 2012, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(viruz019 @ Aug 7 2012, 02:05 PM)
not willing to sacrifice an RG kit..+ if u arent good at painting..no point trying :3

guess no 1 noe where i can get 1 around here? sad.gif
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actually painting RG is infinitely easier then MG. There r alot more parts separation so no nid masking + its relatively cheaper than MG so it wont burn through ur wallet that deeply if u screw up. Even if u did screw up, just dip it in the paint's thinner/Mr Muscle the paint will come off.

if u wan to practice n improve on painting, RG is not a bad start not to mention Strike to Strike Rouge is a relatively simple paint job.

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post Aug 7 2012, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(htpkevin @ Aug 7 2012, 07:15 PM)
guys, sry for a very noob question here, but i need to make it clear. Can anyone tell me the difference between RG and MG? I can't really differenciate. Like which one has more details and such...
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MG is bigger and sturdier.
RG is more detailed.

To put it simply, RG is a miniaturize MG with abit more details.
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post Aug 7 2012, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Aug 7 2012, 07:33 PM)
my opinion

RG
-Smaller but the size is good
-More separation parts, full mold in color
-Different color tone for same color e.g. darker blue and light blue on RG RX-78-2
-Cool realistic decal

MG
-Bigger and tough.. i got some of my MGs fall down around 30cm to floor without any part broken or scratch.. really tough kit sweat.gif
-Easier to build because of i can easily hold it
-Articulation is way better especially on MG 2.0
-Sometimes some MG got free extra freebie like action base stand or extra weapon equiptment
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just to add, there r more choices in MG then RG.
Modelers prefer MG more cuz it giv them bigger surface area to work on, easier to do modding and customization
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post Aug 7 2012, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Aug 7 2012, 07:40 PM)
nope, RG is limited to 1/144th scale.
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well technically the 1/1 rx-78 is term as RG so there you go whistling.gif

QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Aug 7 2012, 07:40 PM)
MGs are already 1/100 and can do most of what an RG can do
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correction, MG can do more than a RG can.
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Waachaaa @ Aug 8 2012, 10:03 AM)
Hi all
May i know where to find below at PJ area? Other than shopping complex.

Hobby kit knife
Where to buy?
price?
Can I substitute this with normal stationary blades?

Marker pen
Where to buy?
price?
Can I substitute this with normal pen ?

Is there huge difference to apply the pen on RG ?
Any chance for you to screw up the lining?
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1. art shop usually sells hobby knife. In fact tey even hav things like scribling knife not just normal hobby knife. If ur el-cheapo like me a normal box cutter would do fine.

2. marker pen, any 0.1 tip pen would do and can be found in any stationary shop. But regular pen is hard to rub off most of the time if u try it'll leave a smudge, gundam marker u can use eraser (not kidding). if u tend to do mistake then better avoid regular 0.1 pen.

3. no diff, its still just ink irregardless whether u apply it on hg, ng, rg, mg, pg, etc

4. yes u can screw up the lining, if u r prone to mistake then use gundam marker cuz its easily rub off.

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post Aug 8 2012, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Waachaaa @ Aug 8 2012, 08:10 PM)
Hi all I bought a black color gundam marker but I am thinking should I invest on gary marker as most part are white which looks better on gray
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personal preference, some prefer a realistic look while others prefer cartoony look. For a more realistic finish gray lines over white is preferable cuz hard black lines over bright surfaces look comic-ish. General rule is if u fall into the former category then for colored parts get marker that are slightly darker then the parts color (if white then gray is preferable), if u fall into the later category just use black for everything.
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post Aug 9 2012, 10:15 AM

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Im incline to MG as well cuz tey r better in almost everywhere compare to RG. To me the only + RG hav over MG is details n color separation which can be emulated anyway with some paints, masking tape and scribbling knife.

But i do understand why some would like RG, its size is a big + for those where shelf space is a premium commodity. To those who doesn't hav tis problem though, RG is nothing more then a miniaturize MG tbh.
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post Aug 9 2012, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(HxiiiK @ Aug 9 2012, 10:23 AM)
yeah, space is a common reason for picking RGs over MGs.. but there's no reason to not like both laugh.gif
and honestly i do like the 'miniaturized' MG part, since i do enjoy posing them and taking pics more than MGs.. as some MGs tend to have parts falling all over the place
tbh RG's engineering is much better thought out, seeing as i don't have problems with thigh armor falling off when posing the leg, weapons dropping off the arms when moving about, or the backpacks falling off ever so often, for instance.. but RG beats MG in straight building, i believe, with abundance of details, it will definitely appeal to straight builders such as myself.. even though i've started painting a little bit, i still do like RG for it's ability to look good without any paint whatsoever
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correct, RG engineering is better cuz its newer. Recent MG is mostly rehash of older kit (even the new Marasai is technically old cuz i rember is saw it b4 long ago as a prototype n not much has change in the actual release) so engineering wise MG is abit stalled at the moment.

i agree, straight building RG look much better as u dun hav to do so much to make it look nice. not to mention its price is affordable.

QUOTE(afsarudy @ Aug 9 2012, 10:18 AM)
Another 117 post we will move to V26.
And I thought we just moved from V24 not long time ago rite?
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lets spam pic to hasten it tongue.gif
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post Aug 9 2012, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Aug 9 2012, 10:39 AM)
Old MG tend to be have bigger head part, you can see RG and MG MKII  tongue.gif

which i dont like MG overall body proportion lol.

but then MG start to improve since recent seed kit... hehe

but then expensive price is expensive
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its quite unfair to compare old kits with new. Obviously newer kits is develop after learning their mistake from the past so although both are MKII, the MG ones are several years older so u cant compare it directly to be fair.
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post Aug 9 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Aug 9 2012, 10:57 AM)
the only impress me in detail i guess are the Seed Kit, not even AGE one... maybe AGE-2 is good hehe ><

i hate strike MG, looks very cheap, if the make v2.0 then good lor  unsure.gif  whistling.gif
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hmm.gif how bout Heavy Arms, those details on the missiles and chess gatling guns are impressive. The whip from Epyon is amazing as well, one of the best design in recent MGs. Recent Seed as u said is also good on the details department.
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post Aug 9 2012, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(waikin_31 @ Aug 9 2012, 06:07 PM)
At this rate, with respect to RG, MG will be like HG,...only winning on size.
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nope, on the contrary the only thing winning on RG is the details. Go back to the early 90s 1/100 scale kits (not even MG mind u) had about the same details as the RG apart from color separation.

The amount of details or lack thereof on MG is not a matter of technology, its a matter of trend. In the early 90s details are the in-thing n u can c those kits from those era had way too much details, only from 2000s onward the trend has shifted to a more simplistic/clean look. If current trend of over detailness is preferred by the customer and if the Japanese fan actually demands for it, i can bet u tey will implement it in their MG as well. If tey can do in in the 90s whats stopping them from doing it in now. And if/when that happen, RG is not that impressive anymore in comparison.
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QUOTE(TaurusOxford @ Aug 9 2012, 07:36 PM)
I don't really agree with this. The panel lining details on old 1/100 kits was ugly and overly done, while the RG kits have the details only where they are needed and still have a clean look about them.
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yes those were notorious, but in the case of RG it was aided by the color separation. In the past, the tech is abit crude so the over detailness seems abit force (not to mention the horribly design n seemlines placement) while the RG is abit more natural due to the color separation, parts separation and overall design tey had learn from MG. Actually if u take a look at the Zeta lineart several post above, take a look at the side of the shin, on the MG is smooth while here its abit cluttered. If we photoshop it n giv it a monotone white on that part u will feel its too much, but when given a bit of color separation its turn out not too bad. A simple color separation here n thr would help tremendously for the past kits but unfortunately Bandai nvr figure that out at that time n the trend had shifted to a more simplistic finish.

But the whole point of my post is to challenge Waikin view that MG is no more then a upscale HG and to demonstrate that the level of detail on RG is not new, done b4 in the past n will be done again in the future if the trend swings that way. Which by that point then RG is not as impressive anymore in comparison to MG especially when it coupled with various other MG advantages.

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post Aug 9 2012, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(TaurusOxford @ Aug 9 2012, 08:56 PM)
I posted the news of the RG Zeta on another forum I go to, and they're laughing at it. I don't own a Zeta 2.0 MG, but how stable is it compared to say, a non-transforming kit like 00 Raiser? How disastrous can a RG transformer be?
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cant comment on RG Zeta coz its the first of the transformable kit (actually we dont even kno if its transformer or partsformer at this point)

MG Zeta, well most of the problem comes from the ankle and knee. For the waveridder transformation, the knee had to bend at an akward angle and the feet had to fold down, during MS mode due to this feature the ankle dun like to stay at its position thus leading to a floopy feet. Also bcus of the knee, it hard to straighten it and even if u did, its not gonna b balance on both legs. These 2 factor means that MG Zeta cant stand on its own very well, even if u did manage to make it stand, just from ur breathing alone could cause it crash to the ground n burn in a heap of fire.
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post Aug 9 2012, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Aug 9 2012, 10:09 PM)
I'm with you. transformable MG is fragile enough, with all those small parts and complex transforming mechanism sweat.gif
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im willing to giv Bandai some benefit of doubt here since the inner frame of RG is prebuild, it may not be as fragile as u might think.
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post Aug 10 2012, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(Rhasense @ Aug 10 2012, 04:50 AM)
cry.gif I said PG and it can happen sad.gif Popularity for Legilis will rise.
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hate to burst ur bubble, but thats not gonna happen. Im willing to join in on TaurusOxford bet but instead i'll buy u the entire PG line if that happens.

u r under the impression that Age is doing well in Japan, which unfortunately its not. So far, ur the only 1 ive seen professing their love for legilis which by itself already proves that its not that popular. There r tons of other far better candidates for PG and may I remind u PG is not Bandai's mainline, if there is no sure sale kits to b made they r not that desperate to release 1. Heck the entire PG line can go silent for years and years b4 resurfacing, Bandai had to be really-really desperate (and i meant REALY desperate as in close to bankruptcy and ran out of idea desperate) to even begin thinking of legilis.
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post Aug 10 2012, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Aug 10 2012, 08:57 AM)
I just want more MG love, and to a lesser degree more PG love..
But Bandai's already gone out and said that due to the current economic climate being uber-meh they will be concentrating more on the cheaper lines, no?
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yes gone r the days of 7000 yen > kits, big kits like ex-s, sazabi, the-o will be sitting in the sideline for the moment. It'll come back when the economy stabilize but now all tey r doing is creating sure sale kits to keep their profit margin high to keep their investors happy.

On that note, V2 would be perfect not too big not too many parts should b cheap + its massively popular. Where is the MG V2 u promise Bandai...... im dissapoint sad.gif

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