sighh really duno why...everytime use their flight can say full flight.. and recently cut cost on food... yet stil run the company like shit rugi duit like hell... what the hell
MAS, under value?
MAS, under value?
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Feb 21 2014, 04:28 PM
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sighh really duno why...everytime use their flight can say full flight.. and recently cut cost on food... yet stil run the company like shit rugi duit like hell... what the hell
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Feb 21 2014, 04:32 PM
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RIP MAS..
Please don't pour our tax money to save it with lousy management ==" |
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Feb 21 2014, 08:24 PM
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Feb 21 2014, 09:27 PM
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Feb 21 2014, 09:28 PM
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Feb 21 2014, 09:32 PM
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Feb 22 2014, 12:59 AM
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Feb 23 2014, 12:36 PM
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MAS Service + Security/Safety flight are much much better than AA .. In some route, MAS flights were cheaper.
If MAS goes bankrupt, AA will be most beneficial and gain.. And now, Tony/AA plays war of word on this.. He should "jaga kain sendiri" instead of critizise MAS .. He relocated AA HQ to Indo to have better cost, but did not provide employment to local ppls. He should worry how to fund and pay interest rate for AA's expansion 300 fleets which is in big sum of cost and how improve AA services/safety.. Any wrong-doing, AA will not be survived with big purchase of fleets. Heard many feedbacks abt AA's service, cancel flight without notice, hidden charges, cool + proud flight attendants ..etc Low cost budget pay its price and would you want to compromise it for yr holiday/business plan? This post has been edited by netmask8: Feb 23 2014, 12:46 PM |
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Feb 23 2014, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Feb 23 2014, 12:36 PM) MAS Service + Security/Safety flight are much much better than AA .. In some route, MAS flights were cheaper. But the bottom line is AA still make money and consistently for the past several years.If MAS goes bankrupt, AA will be most beneficial and gain.. And now, Tony/AA plays war of word on this.. He should "jaga kain sendiri" instead of critizise MAS .. He relocated AA HQ to Indo to have better cost, but did not provide employment to local ppls. He should worry how to fund and pay interest rate for AA's expansion 300 fleets which is in big sum of cost and how improve AA services/safety.. Any wrong-doing, AA will not be survived with big purchase of fleets. Heard many feedbacks abt AA's service, cancel flight without notice, hidden charges, cool + proud flight attendants ..etc Low cost budget pay its price and would you want to compromise it for yr holiday/business plan? People say its because AA get this benefit or this route or that route. But MAS had all of that before AA turned up and still lose money from time to time. In fact , tax payers agreed to buy and own their planes , and lease back to MAS, and yet they lose money. http://www.travel-impact-newswire.com/2002.../#axzz2u88R0KzN MAS has also sold their HQ several years back. Anyhow, a lot of us don't want our national carrier to die. There is no point talking about AA. AA's service is quite lean to those of who are used to SIA or MAS. But the thing is AA has captured a different type of customer - no frill , cheap budget customers. People who used to take trains and express buses. I was on an AA flight several years ago. There were a couple of teenagers seated near me. They were excited because they got to travel on a plane (for the first time) from Penang to KL for relatively low price. A similar analogy is Digi. Digi as we know has poor coverage compared to Maxis but yet they make huge amounts of profit. Because Digi caters to a different customer. I think MAS has the wrong strategy. They need to go for premium customers and create another subsidiary airline (with a different name) to compete with AA. The subsidiary airline will have a very lean cost structure. This way customers are not confused, is MAS a premium brand or a low cost brand. Lastly, the CEO has to bring down the cost and re-org from ground up. |
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Feb 23 2014, 06:17 PM
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Saw The Edge today
TA assigned FV @ 0.23 Can it drop from 0.285 to 0.23 since all bad news oredy factor in ? |
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Feb 23 2014, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 23 2014, 06:17 PM) Saw The Edge today IMO, yes....but give it 3-6 mths. Stock price has been on a downward trend all along and the past 4 qters result has been sucks -TA assigned FV @ 0.23 Can it drop from 0.285 to 0.23 since all bad news oredy factor in ? 1st qter ended 31/3/03 - EPS - -8.34. NAS - RM0.56 2nd qter ended 30/6/03 - EPS - -1.30. NAS - RM0.28 3rd qter ended 30/9/03 - EPS - -2.25. NAS - RM0.26 4th qter ended 31/12/03 - EPS - -2.06. NAS - RM0.24 |
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Feb 24 2014, 03:13 PM
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I think MAS have to holistically look into the P&L and find out where the big junk come from. They should stop comparing with AA as this is not apple to apple comparison and should compare with SIA, Qatar Airlines, etc which are not LCC. Looking into other national carriers strength and weaknesses should help them....
QUOTE(topearn @ Feb 23 2014, 09:00 PM) IMO, yes....but give it 3-6 mths. Stock price has been on a downward trend all along and the past 4 qters result has been sucks - 1st qter ended 31/3/03 - EPS - -8.34. NAS - RM0.56 2nd qter ended 30/6/03 - EPS - -1.30. NAS - RM0.28 3rd qter ended 30/9/03 - EPS - -2.25. NAS - RM0.26 4th qter ended 31/12/03 - EPS - -2.06. NAS - RM0.24 |
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Feb 24 2014, 03:31 PM
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0.27/0.275 now
Time to buy... |
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Feb 24 2014, 05:07 PM
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Feb 24 2014, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 24 2014, 05:49 PM) The worry is that this counter is hopeless, IMOO (In My Opinion Only)...and it could still drop and drop till it reach 10 cents, and then only a white knight comes in to rescue it (maybe Anthony ?). So, IMO, better to buy when the price has dropped a lot more from now. |
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Feb 24 2014, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 24 2014, 09:56 PM) IMO, all 3 options listed are not doable. |
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