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escargo75
post Jun 7 2013, 05:08 PM

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How low can it go? Everything goes down will come up. Abang Rosli, any idea when best time to collect super cheap MAS shares?
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post Jul 15 2013, 02:11 PM

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Good time to buy MAS as it is super low price. Have you ever see a GLC bankcrupt? Not Perwaja, not Proton, etc. Sure goven bump money in annd the share shall rise again. I will load it if you have extra cash! My two cents
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post Jul 15 2013, 02:58 PM

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If they are at RM1.00/share bad buy but RM0.315?? come on should be better than other penny stock
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post Jul 15 2013, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jul 15 2013, 06:08 PM)
IMO, the share will not go down until 1-2sen. Reason is very simple, GLC. I think entering around 25-30sen is a good buy. biggrin.gif
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MAS is not investment share but goreng share!! So good time to goreng at RM0.30. Whatt a pity GLC can be goreng company....So for those invested back at RM5.00, you can forget about this share for at least another decade. If I were you, I will sell it off at least can have a fat meal with the money, too painful to watch anymore. I just did that for my IRCB bought it at ultra high and not put my money management in place and not cut the fingers then now have to cut the head! Painful but have to do it. I just had a thousand ringgit meal with the IRCB proceed..... :-(

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post Jul 16 2013, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Vestor @ Jul 16 2013, 10:44 AM)
31.5sen now, shd go in?
Btw, why TP is 45sen? Any pending announcement soon?
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Abang Rosdi got insider news, worked there before better trust him if want earn some money hehehe...
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post Aug 21 2013, 10:47 AM

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Privatize it even better, the price can shoot up! Bail out also ok as malu lah GLC compnay share like Penny stock, so also will shoot up! Just my two cents

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post Aug 30 2013, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Aug 29 2013, 04:22 PM)
What Case? MAS v  Idris Jala.  laugh.gif

I buy very little for this share because it will take time to over turn the company into profitable.
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True take time to turn profitable but short time if gomen pump money in then will go up!
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post Sep 2 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 31 2013, 07:36 PM)
Past 52 weeks
Highest = 0.455
Lowest = 0.29
Close = 0.315
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Time to sapu GLC cheap stocks! when it fly it will fly up to $1.00. This sure going to fly because the gomen sure support it! If privatise even better hahaha

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post Sep 3 2013, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Sep 2 2013, 11:15 PM)
400 shares how much only? just keep a side and don't bother lo. can afford to lose.  biggrin.gif
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I agreed you keep 20,000 shares just few thousands. Close your eyes, 1 year later come back and see, maybe you will be surprised laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 4 2013, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Sep 3 2013, 05:06 PM)
You Lowyat warren buffet?  biggrin.gif

I think you bought alot.
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Not much but not trying to pull the stock up but just POV. So if it shoot up don't be surprised rclxms.gif


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post Oct 13 2013, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Oct 10 2013, 11:41 PM)
Malaysia Boleh  thumbup.gif  biggrin.gif
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Yeah I am still dreaming that it can go back to $1.00. drool.gif Where the hell in the world airline stock worth only USD0.10???
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post Oct 13 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Oct 13 2013, 07:49 PM)
tongue.gif since it is a figurehead that symbolize msia official airline, i seriously thought the if and when the privatization were to occur, the offer will definitely more <1.0. lol

well, the operating revenue > operating expenses sure is important and i keep wondering as mas was operating at loss, how come it can continue operate..  hmm.gif i wonder....  initially i thought it is GLC so it will be invincible but.... as of now, too risky to enter as of now, in my opinion..  tongue.gif

lol.. about MAS was rm5~7, those older gen keep saying mas will back to its glory (RM5~7) reason, GLC and msia official airline but then i looked at the chart and annual report, i was like  yawn.gif and  shocking.gif plus  shakehead.gif
small fluctuation, yes it may happen but the % to back to its glorious price, erm...  sweat.gif

20years  shocking.gif this one sibeh long.. i was planning if drop <.30 will hold around 10~15 years, of cos just around 10 to 20 lots (1000unit). pretty much like a gamble.. with small hope that it will raise, "the fallen shall rise"
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So many reasoning that the price cannot go up but don't forget in stock market, there is no rational reason for stock picking up sometimes.Time will tell. There is an old saying whatever that go up will come down and whatever that reach rock bottom will bounce back up icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 15 2013, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 14 2013, 02:31 PM)
Those go down and rock bottom one, can stay rock bottom for decades and some even may become delisted.
Delisted, means game over, never has chance to go back up...  tongue.gif  laugh.gif

Stock market is about valuation.
A stock if has good value, and deliver good profit to shareholders, it goes up and may won't go down to its old day low.
Just like BAT, KLK, you won't expect it can go back to RM10, or RM5.

Share price is not just a number but a valuation that investors willing to pay for it.

Short term, yes, sometimes no rational reason can result in share price volatile move up or down but it just a temporarily for sometimes.
Without fundamental to support the share price, soon or later it may crash down fast.

Long term wise, share price need to have a base of fundamental that support its share price.
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Hi Cherroy,

I understand about stock valuation. If you talk about any private company I agree but this is GLC stock. Delisting MAS? It is like asking government to close shop. The worse I can think off is changing it private. Again the stock should go up when there is a plan to privatise it short term. I never said this stock can keep for long term. Can you tell me which GLC company that are delisted once the stock price plunged?

I hope you get my point. The argument here is MAS is a GLC that's all, if it is not GLC, who the hell will still buy this stock as it is making loss for so many years.

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post Oct 18 2013, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 13 2013, 07:16 PM)
The news of privatise will not mean price will be up significantly.
The catch is what is the price of privatisation.
If privatisation offer is Rm0.20, how can market price shoot up more than RM0.20?  laugh.gif

Regarding the super long term holding or holding power, if there is another cash call/right issue, just like what happened on the latest right issue, either shareholders need to fork out extra money, or shareholding being diluted (if do not wish to take up the right issue).

Many also had this mindset when MAS was around RM1.00, prior before right issue call.

Instead one should at the financial situation or report that determine whether the company has turned around or not.
As pointed earlier, the minimum benchmark for a business to sustain, is operating revenue > operating expenses.

Don't use 0.30 as benchmark to justify it is cheap or not, but valuation of it.
Share price can instantly become 3.00, if company decide to merge 10 share into 1, aka reverse splitting,
Just like what Citi had done it before.

Just for info, MAS was Rm 5~7  about 20 years ago.
20 years is super long term or not?  tongue.gif
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Talk so much no use just wait and see. I also do not think that the price can go back to RM5-RM7 but going back to RM1 is a possibility I believe if the gov interfere...That is good enough for me to exit! In fact if I exit now I still will make profit but just have to be patient. rclxms.gif

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post Oct 18 2013, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 19 2013, 12:23 AM)
Do u know wat is MAS PE (assume FY14 earnings) if it reach 1.00 -vs- Airasia current PE?
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Yeah yeah all this PE ratio, intrinsic value all bs one lah. In Malaysia it is mostly speculation not like in US whereby stock price is very much depend on valuation.

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post Nov 19 2013, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 19 2013, 09:41 PM)
Other operating income can be anything that not related to the sales of air-ticket or related to the aviation service the company offered (aka its operation).

Eg.
Sales of airplanes that above its book value.
Other associated company operating profit.
etc.
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I have a stupid question. If MAS is making loss year after year and yet the Khazanah still not doing anything about it, would it be the people working in Khazanah stupid or what? Why not just bungkus it or privatise it?
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post Nov 22 2013, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(Loopster @ Nov 22 2013, 08:30 PM)
Loading for what?
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Everyone is hoping that it bounce back up so sapu lah....This is MAS cannot die one just like Proton...hahaha
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post Feb 24 2014, 03:13 PM

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I think MAS have to holistically look into the P&L and find out where the big junk come from. They should stop comparing with AA as this is not apple to apple comparison and should compare with SIA, Qatar Airlines, etc which are not LCC. Looking into other national carriers strength and weaknesses should help them....

QUOTE(topearn @ Feb 23 2014, 09:00 PM)
IMO, yes....but give it 3-6 mths. Stock price has been on a downward trend all along and the past 4 qters result has been sucks -

1st qter ended 31/3/03 - EPS - -8.34. NAS - RM0.56
2nd qter ended 30/6/03 - EPS - -1.30. NAS - RM0.28
3rd qter ended 30/9/03 - EPS - -2.25. NAS - RM0.26
4th qter ended 31/12/03 - EPS - -2.06. NAS - RM0.24
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post Jul 26 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jul 25 2014, 09:24 PM)
nice joke there!
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I thought the other way round make more sense... rclxub.gif

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post Jul 26 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jul 25 2014, 09:24 PM)
nice joke there!
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I thought the other way round make more sense... rclxub.gif


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