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TSfasionoval
post May 16 2012, 10:50 PM, updated 12y ago

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mas on jan 2012 was 1.37,april was 1.27,today is 1.06 what will happen next?
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post May 16 2012, 10:51 PM

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TSfasionoval
post May 16 2012, 10:53 PM

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yape may below 1.00
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post May 17 2012, 08:43 AM

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Maybank just issued a "Sell" on this counter.

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html
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post May 17 2012, 10:17 AM

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point of no return???
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post May 17 2012, 11:04 AM

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No Value........
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post May 17 2012, 11:07 AM

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biggrin.gif you define it under value?
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post May 22 2012, 09:09 PM

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MAS posts smaller loss...

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...3935&sec=nation

The MAS Group registered a loss after tax of RM171mil for the first quarter ended 31 March, a significant 29% reduction from the RM242mil loss for the same period last year...

"We cut unprofitable routes especially in long haul where yields were low. This helped us to immediately improve our Revenue per Available Seat Kilometre (RASK') performance year-on-year.

"On the cost side, we lowered our fuel bill with improved consumption as a result of newer fuel-efficient aircraft."

He said improved cost management was also seen for non-fuel variable costs, although currently they were unable to address fixed costs.


The new A380 aircrafts are supposed to be fuel-efficient, provided that the load factor is high. But, can MAS keep the load factor high hmm.gif
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post May 23 2012, 05:45 AM

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I defines it negative value biggrin.gif
.If someone put 100K 10 years ago into this stock, I wonder how much the money will be left.
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post May 25 2012, 02:48 PM

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Any Idea how MAS-CG will go ?
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post Jul 15 2012, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ May 23 2012, 05:45 AM)
I defines it negative value biggrin.gif
.If someone put 100K 10 years ago into this stock, I wonder how much the money will be left.
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I just sold my share MAS 2 lot as I see this company take time to recover. Since already a lost then might well use the money to gain some where to counter losses.

the person put in 100k categories his worse investment.
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post Jul 16 2012, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Jul 15 2012, 11:05 PM)
I just sold my share MAS 2 lot as I see this company take time to recover. Since already a lost then might well use the money to gain some where to counter losses.

the person put in 100k categories his worse investment.
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MAS is now rusted metal... sell it of to avoid further loss...

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post Jul 16 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Jul 16 2012, 12:12 AM)
MAS is now rusted metal... sell it of to avoid further loss...
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Maybe Whole MAS let Tony Fernades Handle will do. Whole nation proud and More good than Harm.

This is the 2nd time need fund to turn around. sad.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Jul 16 2012, 04:13 PM)
Maybe Whole MAS let Tony Fernades Handle will do. Whole nation proud and More good than Harm.

This is the 2nd time need fund to turn around.  sad.gif
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MAS NTA is below 30 sen sweat.gif tax payers suffer if cont helping them
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post Jul 16 2012, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(wing13 @ Jul 16 2012, 08:03 PM)
MAS NTA is below 30 sen sweat.gif tax payers suffer if cont helping them
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What is NTA?


Added on July 16, 2012, 8:26 pm
QUOTE(fasionoval @ May 16 2012, 10:50 PM)
mas on jan 2012 was 1.37,april was 1.27,today is 1.06 what will happen next?
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Need to borrow money from goverment I guess. Anyway,I bought 2 lot mas at RM1.90 which mean RM3,800.Sell RM1.13.Haiz,since it will take long time to recover.might well sell n take money invest other area more profitable.

This post has been edited by Seremban_2: Jul 16 2012, 08:26 PM
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post Jul 16 2012, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Seremban_2 @ Jul 16 2012, 08:21 PM)
What is NTA?


Added on July 16, 2012, 8:26 pm
Need to borrow money from goverment I guess. Anyway,I bought 2 lot mas at RM1.90 which mean RM3,800.Sell RM1.13.Haiz,since it will take long time to recover.might well sell n take money invest other area more profitable.
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Accounting

Net Tangible Assets or Net Asset Value ie. total liabilities less total assets/issued shares

As reported for Q1, the Net asset is now 0.28 sen down from 0.32 sen

This means if MAS cannot sustain or gov final bail out, this is the net value of the company as at Q1.


Added on July 16, 2012, 8:54 pm
QUOTE(wing13 @ Jul 16 2012, 08:53 PM)
Accounting

Net Tangible Assets or Net Asset Value ie. total liabilities less total assets/issued shares

As reported for Q1, the Net asset is now 0.28 sen down from 0.32 sen

This means if MAS cannot sustain or gov final bail out, this is the net value of the company as at Q1.
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Typo should be assets less liabilities/issued shs

This post has been edited by wing13: Jul 16 2012, 08:54 PM
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post Jul 16 2012, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(wing13 @ Jul 16 2012, 08:53 PM)
Accounting

Net Tangible Assets or Net Asset Value ie. total liabilities less total assets/issued shares

As reported for Q1, the Net asset is now 0.28 sen down from 0.32 sen

This means if MAS cannot sustain or gov final bail out, this is the net value of the company as at Q1.


Added on July 16, 2012, 8:54 pm
Typo should be assets less liabilities/issued shs
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Sometime think this company was lock into +tive NTA -> make loss until -tive NTA -> right issue -> +tive NTA... history did repeat itself in this company, and we have to continue paying them to fly.... haiz...
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post Jul 16 2012, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Jul 16 2012, 09:40 PM)
Sometime think this company was lock into +tive NTA -> make loss until -tive NTA -> right issue -> +tive NTA... history did repeat itself in this company, and we have to continue paying them to fly.... haiz...
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Cheap for gov to privatise now, few years later list again at few dollars ... smile.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 10:15 PM

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Great ftt..........that what I was thinking about too. notworthy.gif
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post Jul 17 2012, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(wing13 @ Jul 16 2012, 10:05 PM)
Cheap for gov to privatise now, few years later list again at few dollars ...  smile.gif
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what is the point privatise it? it was a rusted metals ....... listed means can korek from the public!!! by listing Right issue / bonds / borrow ...... public (investor) money bailout and public funds also can help ..... not good meh?

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