I think this kind of bond. When you got money only pay back. When u no money... Hahahaha.. Take a gun and shoot me?
MAS, under value?
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Nov 20 2013, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Nov 20 2013, 12:58 PM) They should start to offer air steward and stewardess RM3k. Don't forget Lion Air (the group which own 49% stake in Malindo). It has ordered lots of planes.Pilot RM5k. Tak suka, can see the door. I bet AirAsia won't be able to absorb so many staff suddenly as well right? Like this jao cut down many many HR cost liau...  QUOTE Airbus's latest forecast is that air traffic will grow 4.7% annually over the next 20 years. Boeing predicts 5% annual growth. That translates into a demand for between 29,220 and 35,280 new aircraft. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24901430It means, according to a report by Boeing, that about 498,000 new commercial airline pilots will be needed over the next two decades. |
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Nov 20 2013, 03:06 PM
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MAS losing money like no tomorrow.
Latest qterly results. Net assets per share attributable to ordinary equity holders of the parent ($$) AS AT END OF CURRENT QUARTER RM0.26 AS AT PRECEDING FINANCIAL YEAR END RM0.64 At this rate of losing, by next qter, NAS will be -ve ! |
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Nov 20 2013, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Nov 20 2013, 12:58 PM) They should start to offer air steward and stewardess RM3k. If like that, most will just leave for better pastures in other airlines (both local or overseas), switch to other carriers which pays better, or start thier own biz. Then MAS will become like KL bus operations, only got 1 pilot and no cabin staff.Pilot RM5k. Tak suka, can see the door. I bet AirAsia won't be able to absorb so many staff suddenly as well right? Like this jao cut down many many HR cost liau... |
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Nov 20 2013, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Nov 20 2013, 01:25 PM) Talk is easy. MAS has very strong union. I don't think you can touch them. i agree with you, thats why the share swap with AA went down the drain. besides the union, political view has to be considered as well. BN always wanna take back selangor, so they need those MAS staff to vote them   so if u goreng them, u think they will vote for you? |
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Nov 20 2013, 06:29 PM
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Nov 20 2013, 09:38 PM
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Why the high trading vol day in day out?
All speculators? |
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Nov 22 2013, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(Bonescythe @ Nov 20 2013, 12:58 PM) They should start to offer air steward and stewardess RM3k. Wow smart thinking.. No pilot, no need to fly. No flight, no fuel used. Therefore, save money mah...Pilot RM5k. Tak suka, can see the door. I bet AirAsia won't be able to absorb so many staff suddenly as well right? Like this jao cut down many many HR cost liau... I am always amazed with smart people like you  |
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Nov 22 2013, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(Loopster @ Nov 20 2013, 09:38 PM) Why the high trading vol day in day out? guess so... it's close to 30c now... people are loading up.All speculators? |
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Nov 22 2013, 07:30 PM
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Loading for what?
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Nov 22 2013, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(Loopster @ Nov 22 2013, 08:30 PM) Loading for what? Everyone is hoping that it bounce back up so sapu lah....This is MAS cannot die one just like Proton...hahaha |
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Dec 19 2013, 02:39 PM
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how long will mas go?
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Dec 19 2013, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(eksk @ Dec 19 2013, 02:39 PM) how long will mas go? forever |
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Feb 18 2014, 06:08 PM
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Malaysia Airlines posts net loss of RM343m in Q4 2013
Malaysian Airline System Bhd (MAS) posted net losses of RM343.44mil in the fourth quarter ended Dec 31, 2013 compared with net profit of RM51.37mil a year ago. It reported on Tuesday the losses included depreciation, amortisation and impairment of RM172.7mil, unrealised foreign exchange loss of RM18.7mil and finance cost of RM105.1mil. Its revenue rose 0.8% to RM3.896bil from RM3.866bil a year ago. Loss per share was 2.06 sen compared with earnings per share of 0.72 sen. The group's earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortisation was negative at RM56.3mil. For FY13, its net loss widened to RM1.173bil from RM432.58mil. Its revenue rose 9.9% to RM15.12bil from RM13.75bil.For FY13, its net loss rose to RM1.173bil from RM432.58mil. Its revenue rose to RM15.12bil from RM13.75bil. |
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Feb 18 2014, 06:21 PM
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Total loss for year 2013 is about RM 1.1 bil, cash burn rate is about RM 3.6 bil, cash in hand only RM 3.5 bil.
Shareholders prepare for another rights issue...  |
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Feb 18 2014, 08:08 PM
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Will Mas drop tomorrow?
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Feb 18 2014, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 18 2014, 06:21 PM) Total loss for year 2013 is about RM 1.1 bil, cash burn rate is about RM 3.6 bil, cash in hand only RM 3.5 bil. Wow mind boggling. Another round of rights issue will make it down to 3 sen?? Shareholders prepare for another rights issue...  |
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Feb 19 2014, 12:02 AM
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Curious whether its auditors will qualify the audited accounts as going concern which may trigger PN17 condition
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Feb 19 2014, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 19 2014, 12:02 AM) Curious whether its auditors will qualify the audited accounts as going concern which may trigger PN17 condition This issue raise before but hv been blocked or exempted ( pn17 ) if not mistaken.  |
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Feb 19 2014, 08:15 AM
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