Hard not to LOL at this. Second best in the world ? That's a joke! MAS used to be quite generous with their food servings in Economy Class a few years ago. Many airlines are miles ahead of MAS!

By the way, Skytrax really is just Skytrash. Besides, this Skytrash has been giving MAS many awards it doesn't deserve since the late 90s. I doubt it will give much lift to its share price. If, IF MAS share price goes up coming Monday, it is only because there are some people 'goreng' it.

since malaysian is not rich yet, i think most of the people will still choosing budget flight...

KLIA2 will help MAS?

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...f-RM375mil.aspx

375 million loss for the 3rd Q.

Year to date, total 830 million, if continue like previous Q, whole year loss may surpass 1 bil. 

Latest Q result
Operating revenue 3.78 bil
Operating expenses 3.85 bil

This is the main problem.
Revenue must always exceed expenses.

The company just raised about 3 billion right issue no long ago.
Now has 5 billion cash, so still got "plenty of time" before run out of cash. 
So not "so soon".   

Another way to raise cash is through perpetual bond, just like last year that MAS issued before, 1.5 billion. 

In long-term survival, AA debts are HUGE and financial ratios might affect credit ratings..

In year 2011, ordered new 200 Airbus A320neo cost USD 18.5 Billions.
That year, AA ordered already reaches 375 Airbus and 89 A320s have been delivered.
AA ordered 100 A320s for usd 9.3 billion in December 2012.. Can survive and good prospect in aviation industry?

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Take note the currency and interest rate are in US Dollar, not MYR ..

I understood business terms, But in post # 448 , I'm talking the debts were huge and survival in long term is a question mark?

MAS = LOSE MONEY could be depreciation of old aircrafts .. Not necessary due to poor mgmt. or other factors..

Airplanes are capex. Can sales of airplanes be considered operating income? Calling Pink Spider...
My feeling is that the proper term should be 'other income'. Is MAS trying to deceive us?
MAS has been privatized before. It didn't work out.
And the government won't let it close shop, as MAS represents the country, and the cabin crew are supposed to be Malaysian ambassadors.
Plus, there are no alternatives as far as full service carrier is concerned. AA is a budget airline. It has also moved its HQ to Jakarta, hence it cannot represent Malaysia.

The Perpetual Sukuk enables the company to improve its balance sheet and gearing as it is recognised as equity capital under Malaysian accounting standards, but yet provides a relatively reasonable long-term funding rate of 6.9 per cent per annum, he said.

The more you talk abt right issues and perpetual Sukuk, the much better for MAS.. 

Money raised from Right Issue / Perpetual Sukuk were taken from the private fund manager/public/Asset Mgmt/bond holders etc
WITHOUT involving rakyat money /GOVT $$$..

Meaning that these private fund mgr/Public/Asset Mgmt company/
bond holders STILL HAVE CONFIDENCE and PUT Their $$$ to the right issue/perpetual SUKUK..
Otherwise, why these ppls/Org/Company put their $$$ and jump into these right issues/perpetual Sukuk ?

Perpetual bond, means never expired bond, so don't need to pay back, right?

Something never need to pay back, is a liabilities? Seem not quite right
equity? also not an equity.
So how?

I also no clue on this accounting issue, someone that work inside accounting industry can give some insight?

Shud be bailed out right if worst happens?

Hahaha why?!
  hope to turn back the profitability again.

Hahaa buy now at dirt cheap, put in time capsule.
[to be opened at 2020]

Well to be frank I don't believe in God, if they're safe, they'll be safe; if they've crashed, they'll be in trouble. No praying will help.

According to a Vietnamese newspaper, Tuoi Tre, the Vietnamese High Command of the Navy said that the aircraft had crashed off Vietnam’s Tho Chu Island, northwest off the country’s southernmost Cape Ca Mau.

Those on board included two infants and 12 crew members, Malaysian Airlines said in a statement, adding it was working with all authorities in the region and search and rescue teams had been mobilized.

As well as the American and Australian passengers, the aircraft was carrying 153 Chinese, 38 Malaysians, 12 Indonesians and 32 people from France.

An unconfirmed report on a flight tracking website said the aircraft had plunged 650ft and changed course shortly before all contact was lost.

Unconfirmed reports said it was believed the missing aircraft was involved in a crash in August 2012 when it damaged the tail of a China Eastern Airlines plane at Shanghai Pudong Airport.

The reports said that in that incident the tip of the wing of the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 broke off.

Plenty of airliners don't own the plane directly, but operate the plane through leasing.

Narrow n wide body aircraft depreciated 10-18 yrs n 20 yrs

The plane is 11 years old (if not mistaken, that I read from net), so I reckon due to depreciation, there won't be much left in the balance sheet.
PS I am not well verse how airliner account their leased airplane in the balance sheet.

So when insurance money come in, write back again? 

Also, I wonder, isn't it public liabilities insurance is the purpose for such event? (claim/payment for accident case)