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ALeUNe
post Jul 18 2012, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Jul 18 2012, 02:29 PM)
i was thinking the additional armor and stat of 1st one which is 420 stat vs 250-300 stat on the another 2, is it enough to compensate the AR?
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What is your current DPS/HP/Armor/AR/LOH?
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post Jul 19 2012, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Jul 18 2012, 07:42 PM)
Both with warcry.

Offensives
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Defensive
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IMO, generally your current setup is good enough to complete Inferno.
It seems you have already got Seven Sins in both setup, I think you do not need to upgrade your shoulder armor.

If you really want to upgrade your gear,
Offensive, perhaps you need to upgrade DPS to the level of 100K-200K+.
Defensive, you need to improve the AR (800 without war cry or 1200 with war cry) and increase the DPS to 35K.

If I were you, I'd go defensive setup.
2 reasons, it could be cheaper and easier to achieve the desired stats. It is a more balance build.

P/S As your current gears are good enough to complete Inferno.
Are you going to play other class of heroes?
If yes, IMO, it is better to spend gold on gears for other class of heroes.
Barb is the most expensive class to maintain. The STR attribute is not important for other class of heroes.
Well, if gold is not a concern, by all means go upgrade your gears.

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post Jul 20 2012, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jul 20 2012, 09:33 AM)
I have 900 AR, 17K dmg, 49K life, 8K armor.
cannot survive in act 3 even i have 600 LPS.
i suspect because i am 0 LOH. so i need to buy something with LOH or weapon with socket tonight.
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900AR and 8K armor are the stats before war cry or after war cry?

LOH + overpower (crushing advance) combo is very useful to kill certain type of elites.
You'll need LOH.

Are you playing solo or co-op?
Go co-op if you can't solo.
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post Jul 20 2012, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jul 20 2012, 10:09 AM)
After war cry then physical bout 1.1K, the rest bout 900.
play party.
I think play solo easier.
when play solo the crap mob is 70K life, when play party the crap mob is 200K life!
Yes, i think i need LOH. gonna unload my 70% critical gems and put up 400 LOH. and might buy another weapon with socket play dual-wield with 400 x 2 LOH.
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If you go solo, 4 elites gang-rape you at a time.
If you go party, 4 human players gang-rape an elite at a time.
If you are unlucky and met 2 packs of elites, 8 elites will gang-rape you at a time if you go solo.
If you are unlucky and met 2 packs of elites in co-op game, 4 human players still gang-rape an elite at a time.
So, it's really up to you how you want to play it.

I completed A1 and A2 in both solo and co-op.
I couldn't complete A3 and A4 in solo.

LOH comes in handy in A3/A4.
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post Jul 20 2012, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jul 20 2012, 10:25 AM)
I actually party with my fren DH 60K dps.
his defends a bit weaks, so he stay behind, but dmg is very high.
I as barbarian i stay in front of elite pack.
So yesterday faced an elite pack that have arcane sentry, poison lock at ur floor, shield, and walking fire.
I can't stand in front there for long, my HP drop tremendously.
I guess LOH will solve my problem tonight!

Looks like i need to sacrifice my dmg and tank in front and let my fren to kill them.
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Try get a monk in your team. You will be doing better.

LOH+Overpower (CA) + healing mantra will help you to stay longer in the game.
Monk and Barb should fight together.

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jul 20 2012, 10:32 AM)
Ya, i agreed that i have to walk away againsts arcane sentry. but if with LOH i might can stand in front even with poison on the floor right?
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LOH alone is not enough. You'll need overpower to reflect damage while you're recovering from LOH.
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jul 20 2012, 10:59 AM)
No, it is Overpower (Crushing Advance)
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(keenie @ Jul 20 2012, 10:55 AM)
How many LoH do u guys think is decent for a barb?
Is 900+ LoH enough?
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You need 600 LOH minimum.
The more the merrier.
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(keenie @ Jul 20 2012, 11:13 AM)
Thanks for the heads up.
Im considering to get weapon with LoH and Cri Dmg if possible.
And make it dual wield. Just afraid it will be over my budget.
What do u think?
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It depends on your overall build.

You need high DPS and LOH if you wanna dual-wield in A3/A4.
100K+ DPS and 1000+ LOH should do you fine.
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post Jul 20 2012, 11:43 AM

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Life steal (combo with high DPS) and LOH are good.

Beside these, I found using bash (pulverize) in A3/A4 gave me better LOH than Frenzy.
Cleave was the worst.
You may discuss that too.

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post Jul 20 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(mothangel @ Jul 20 2012, 01:00 PM)
Hey guys which one is better for act 3 ?

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Im using 2.30% LS weap too which is my total now 5.10% LS but AR kinda low for act 3

47k DPS 5k armor here
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What is your current AR?
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post Jul 22 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Snowcap @ Jul 22 2012, 03:05 PM)
so currently here my options :

whether going for a little bit higher DPS like this :
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or barbarian with more armor :

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with this build :
barb skill
well i kinda new to this game, played not even for a week yet.

so i kinda blurr, or you guys would give a better suggestion for me  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Which level? Normal? Nightmare? Hell? Inferno?
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post Jul 22 2012, 07:12 PM

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Monk is indeed Barbs' best friend.

I'm now in Inferno A2. Very comfortable with dual-wield.


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post Jul 23 2012, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(Snowcap @ Jul 22 2012, 04:51 PM)
nightmare
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Your gears should be good for Nightmare.

You will need to source for better gears in Hell mode, where you need AR.
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post Jul 23 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Jul 23 2012, 11:04 AM)
This is probably the worst advise ever given.  You need exactly 0 AR in Hell mode.
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0 AR in Hell Mode? You must have god-like armor and skill that can withstand/dodge arcane/poison/fire in Hell mode.
I was a noobie Barb. I needed 100AR in Act4 Hell Mode (if my memory serves me right).


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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 23 2012, 11:07 AM)
AR : 500++ (after warcry is 700-800 +)
DMG: 27k
Life: 34k
Armour : 9k ++

0 life steal or Loh. So sad~~

Struggling in act 3 inferno. Limited budget to push more cz the gears kinda exp. Got 10 mil but everything seem unaffordable. Bid 1 ring less that 1 mil, after one day... It shoot up to 7-9 mil..

Wanna ask how does the skill overpower (revel) works? Is it we gain life for hit enemy or being hit?

Add: crit DMG: 260%
Crit chance: 25%
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You may need to check with currylaksa on how to get 1-2M gears.

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post Jul 23 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jul 23 2012, 11:13 AM)
Even I have 600 LOH and 900 AR, i also need to kite in act 3. I have 55K life, Armor bout 8-9K.
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Please add me. My Monk needs Barb a companion in A3 Inferno.
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post Jul 23 2012, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(hengmy @ Jul 23 2012, 12:14 PM)
finally finished inferno on my barb solo yesterday night biggrin.gif

its slow but the satisfaction is higher because i dont pay for pricey gear, most of the gear i got it from self farming, except the weapon bought very long ago for few hundred k (840dps, 6xx LOH, 70 CD, 50 str) and 7sin that bought for RMAH resell  tongue.gif

the feeling of using own gear to play the game is much better than getting it from AH for multi-million.
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Congrats!
Yeap, your have good enough attributes to finish Inferno.

The gears you have may not be pricey to you.
It is certainly pricey for me. My dreamed gears. laugh.gif
My crappy gears didn't allow me to do solo. I needed co-op.

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post Jul 23 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 23 2012, 01:18 PM)
Oh mai~ My Summerfist also need aid act 3 ler... Mari mari add me
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I'll add you tonight too. Monk loves Monk too. tongue.gif
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post Jul 23 2012, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 23 2012, 01:21 PM)
Need another monk to stack Mantras
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Yeap, I had a monk in my team and we completed A2 Inferno yesterday.
Stacking Mantras + War Cry are good. bruce.gif
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post Jul 23 2012, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Jul 23 2012, 01:25 PM)
Sorry. You know I still luv barb don't you tongue.gif
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You can love Barb. But you can't stop me from loving you. laugh.gif

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