QUOTE(endau02 @ Jul 23 2012, 05:38 PM)
Nightmare or hell? You should reach hell when you reach LVL49.
Or you have crappy gears?
Barbarian Discussion, Share your builds, opinions, guides
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Jul 23 2012, 05:48 PM
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Jul 23 2012, 06:11 PM
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Jul 24 2012, 09:17 AM
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Jul 24 2012, 11:36 AM
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Jul 26 2012, 11:44 AM
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Jul 26 2012, 03:02 PM
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Jul 26 2012, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(Aura @ Jul 26 2012, 03:59 PM) Overpower with Crushing Advance rune highly depend on LoH while Revenge highly depends on total HP since it is % based.... Revenge also depends on how many enemy hits you receive. If you are surrounded by 5-6 monsters, you will have greater HP recovery. If only one monster hits you, the HP recovery is quite negligible. |
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Jul 26 2012, 04:05 PM
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Jul 26 2012, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 26 2012, 04:08 PM) Iayah I no LoH I just use freezy hit gain life, revenge active n life reg 150 only.... can survive.... facing possible enemy ?? For my case, overpower is useful to counter certain elites only. Added on July 26, 2012, 4:16 pm no wonder taty yesterday I facing elite just of 3 unit run fast around me I hits less cant near them, too hurt the fire chain n vortex so I can't recover my hp back.... if u think in my situation use overpower can cover my hp? Based on my experience, it is useful to counter those poisonous attacks. It is difficult to comment since I do not know what kind of elite monsters you encountered. P/S By the way, do you have LOH? You need LOH for Overpower (CA) to work. Added on July 26, 2012, 4:23 pm QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jul 26 2012, 04:05 PM) This guy is indeed good. She ran for life, dished out 4K-6K damage per hit, and yet she could beat the enrage timer. This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 26 2012, 04:35 PM |
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Jul 26 2012, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 26 2012, 04:42 PM) Really? No stat wor.. My current axe gt 200+ str and vit. Worry the cool down haven't finish I die ady. Haha... Ghom fight, you should be fine with 350-400 LOH. Anyway thanks. Will try also. Use Bloodthirst if you find you can't recover enough HP. You can dual-wield too. |
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Jul 26 2012, 05:00 PM
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Jul 27 2012, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 27 2012, 03:25 AM) my barb did u see any LoH...but i still cant tank too long...mostly the fire chain...so did u can gift some opinion any weak from my inspect.... There is no LOH in your current setup. You will need that in A3/A4. [attachmentid=2968270] [attachmentid=2968272] [attachmentid=2968273] You have quite low HP. Quite low AR too (600+ after WC). You don't tank. You just can't tank when you fight elites/champions. I believe you have problem to fight normal creeps too. Half of your HP gone if you receive 2-3 hits. It is pain-in-the-ass to chase the desert hornets. So, yo don't tank. You just can't tank. You use dual-wield. You can deliver decent DPS. What you can do is, use the skill WoTB+EQ(CA) just to kill the elites/champions as fast as you can. Change your skill and you should be able to do A2. |
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Jul 27 2012, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 27 2012, 01:49 PM) Weapon, amulet, rings.Added on July 27, 2012, 2:43 pm QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Jul 27 2012, 02:07 PM) You need WW+LOH combo.This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 27 2012, 02:43 PM |
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Jul 27 2012, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 27 2012, 03:02 PM) Ok so I wan share v u all one... question is did u came of cross experience for barb tank mostly u boost ur AR...u search from AH did u find all res only, physical n all Res,poison n all Res n fire n all res ? My best armor and AR for my Barb was, 11K+ armor and 1500AR (after War Cry + Mantra of Healing), I couldn't tank too. further up u will boost AR normally u will satisfied w/o (warcry)how much ? If I leaped, it would be 33K+ armor + 1500AR, I could tank for 3 seconds. Generally, Barb can't really tank. If you want to tank, you need to have HP recovery too (LOH/Lifesteal/Liferegen etc). With HP recovery, you can tank longer as you can survive longer. You can survive 5-10 seconds longer and kite or corpse next, perhaps. Alternatively, you go for DPS. We can see we have members that opt for DPS now (100K DPS). The faster you kill, the better chance you survive in battlefield. You will need to sacrifice some armor and AR for that. And you still need LOH/Lifesteal. Another Barb we see is the WW + LOH combo + high damage. It doesn't tank as well. It kills as many and as soon as possible. In short, Barbs can't really tank, especially come to A3/A4. I played in public game most of the time for many weeks now and I have not seen one Barb tanker. The best tanker I've seen so far is a Wizard. This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 27 2012, 03:20 PM |
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Jul 27 2012, 03:24 PM
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Jul 27 2012, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 27 2012, 03:27 PM) he finished the game before patch 1.0.3 as tanker, DPS was a side project coz that period many barbs here were complaining DPS is impossible I am not sure whether they can stand on a pool of fire/poison/arcane for 30 seconds or not. moodswing was tanker too, he got lazy and went with the 1m budget frenzy, i now also dunno what build hes doing ahahahah oit moodswing, come ehreeee I saw a Wizard standing still for more than 1 min tanking, with fire/poison/arcane under his feet + 4 elites surrounded him (other 3 players already dead). |
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Jul 27 2012, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 27 2012, 03:34 PM) able to tank and able to tank+kill is 2 different thing man This i know. We also assume that tanker will have to forego DPS aka kill. tanking AND able to keep your dps alive is also another thing whats the point of tanking if ur dps die and u can stand there for 1min and cant kill shit till the enrage timer hits? imho tanking is not an easy job especially on how the AI's are scripted, dunno why players keep using the word "tank" so freely lol As we talked about tanker, we talk about tanker. Can Barb tank? With poison/fire/arcane under feet for 30 secs? By the way, the Wiz that I saw could cause more damage than any of the players. We were dead most of the time. It was the Wiz that killed those elites. Wiz' Energy Twister (wicked wind) can cause 252% weapon damage. Added on July 27, 2012, 3:48 pm QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 27 2012, 03:39 PM) Bought a1h 1k dps weapons. Increase dps but decrease vit. Kill faster or I die faster. Feel little regret now.. Haih... Err... so, now, the monster die first or you die first? This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 27 2012, 03:48 PM |
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Jul 27 2012, 03:52 PM
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Jul 27 2012, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 27 2012, 03:55 PM) youre like comparing builds without even considering gear wise swt Comparing builds?i dont even know how good the other 3 players or what kinda gears the wiz is on the wiz im sure other than wicked wind he has diamond skin permaed, its a basic crit tanker build that requires high crit and loh gears if you gear your barb according to needs of a particular tanking build, 30sec isint a problem Builds, gears, skills are all taken into consideration and we discuss who is a better tanker? P/S I checked, the Wiz has diamond skin and Frost Nova too. This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 27 2012, 04:06 PM |
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Jul 27 2012, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(present me @ Jul 27 2012, 04:08 PM) Wah... ur AR 1k above also cant tahanĀ n armor so high somemore ...play in a3 a4 so possible...if i build hp high, life reg n LoH cant recover my hp to facing monster.... my party use monk ar 800, hp 30k around Tank normal creeps, no problem. no LoH dps20k ,use shield... n use his skills...he can tank more then 5second.... I hope I rebuild I can tank abit n kill like cow........ I don't like ww build likeĀ belle dance .. disgusting hahaha..... Tank extra health + fast + shield + melee elites, no problem. Tank elites with fire/poison/arcane/chain, big problem. As you mentioned monk, monk can do pretty easy in A3/A4 with 20K/6K armor/800 AR/40K HP/600LOH. With similar stats, Barb is having great difficulty. It is doable nonetheless. As I mentioned, if you can't solo, try co-op. P/S By the way, 5 second tank is nothing. Leap gives you 300% armor and you can tank 3 seconds & it takes 2 seconds to drain your HP . You can do 5 seconds too. Added on July 27, 2012, 4:36 pm QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 27 2012, 04:25 PM) It is difficult to judge based on that. With the new weapon, can you survive longer now? Less deaths in game? This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jul 27 2012, 04:40 PM |
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