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ALeUNe
post Aug 7 2012, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Aug 7 2012, 09:55 AM)
Blizzard forum come out with new profile.
Here is my gears. hehe.

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How to get that? Only for those registered Blizzard forum members?
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post Aug 7 2012, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Aug 7 2012, 09:55 AM)
Even high LOH also need 40K gua.
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If he has 1800+ LOH & good resistance (900AR unbuffed?), he should be able to do A3/A4 with 32K HP.
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post Aug 7 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(jerrykhor @ Aug 7 2012, 11:03 AM)
this is my bb..want to upgrade but no money...stuck at Act1.. any suggestion.. blush.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/IceFang-1137/hero/5901381
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You should be able to clear A1.
And you should be stuck at A2. laugh.gif

Well, it is tough when you have no money.
Ok, change your skills. WoTB + EQ.
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post Aug 7 2012, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Aug 7 2012, 11:40 AM)
Wow, i cant believe can survive with 389 AR before buff. means 583.5 AR.
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What caught my eyes was his 11K DPS. hmm.gif
Or he has another set of gears?
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post Aug 7 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Walbur @ Aug 7 2012, 11:59 AM)
nothing to shout about, I complete my Inferno before Inferno nerf.
with only 10K DPS.
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I think it is only possible in co-op.
Otherwise, if you play solo, some those elites will recover faster than the damage received.
You will need another team players with high enough DPS to do the damage.
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post Aug 7 2012, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Walbur @ Aug 7 2012, 12:05 PM)
FYI - before inferno nerf, I was solo from Inferno Act1 to Act4.
with 10K DPS..
that a reason why I said, now Inferno is totally crap.. just pure for farming, no challenge at all.
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That's interesting.
Please share your build + follower build.
It should help our members to build something similar in order to complete A3/A4.


Added on August 7, 2012, 12:17 pm
QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Aug 7 2012, 12:03 PM)
barb u can go either high damage or just tanker build.. let ur team do more damage.. they are grateful u can help them tank this much.

Also if u notice Berserker I used 100% damage rune... in case needed for that extra damage during mobs.
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Before I changed some of the gears, my Barb had 11K armor and 1500AR (WC + MoH).
He couldn't tank. With the leap, he could last another 3 seconds. laugh.gif

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post Aug 7 2012, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Aug 7 2012, 12:40 PM)
this one geng, focus on tanking?
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With high STR & high DPS weapon, I reckon he has decent DPS too.
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post Aug 8 2012, 04:44 PM

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I want to sell a Perfect Star Ruby at 500K gold.
It is certainly cheaper than AH.
Any taker?
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post Aug 8 2012, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Aug 8 2012, 04:48 PM)
how much? 500K gold?
me me.
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Ok, reserve for you.
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post Aug 8 2012, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Aug 8 2012, 05:11 PM)
Ok talk soon tonight, clear my task now later play d3 after dinner.
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I won't be home early tonight.
Will log on D3 at 11:15pm.
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post Aug 9 2012, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(LifeX @ Aug 8 2012, 06:02 PM)
My Resistance at 1000+ also cannot stand in fire. Fire damn shit crazy pain.

I dont understand le, my crit chance at 48% crit dmg at 402%, but my STR only 1235. My DPS only (unbuff) 35K.

I see one guy at  cri chance 30+ crit dmg 300+, str 2.1K DPS unbuff at 56K.

Can someone enlighten me on this? New to BARB, use to play Monk. So i dunno what did i do wrong.

Does str multipler make that much of a difference? I dont rmbr monk's dex multiplier got so keng wor.

Thanks for helping.
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In order to have high DPS, your main attribute, if possible, has to keep at the level of 1800 and above.
Likewse, same applies to all other heroes (i.e. 2000++ DEX for Monk).
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post Aug 13 2012, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(turboclinkz @ Aug 12 2012, 07:12 PM)
Hi guys,

I have been reading and playing.. so far i havent encounter any problem till I reach Inferno mode today and I just got pawned by Act 1 normal risens.

They are chewing me up at 3k - 7k dmg.
Anyone can help ?

my stats are as per attached.
thank you in advance.
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All your stats are not good enough, except that 43K HP.

You should need some AR in Hell mode.
How did you progress in Hell mode?
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post Aug 13 2012, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Aug 13 2012, 10:50 AM)
Ya agreed.
better to have 40% crit chance and above before WOTB buff.
Passive skill you can get around 15% already. so you need to look for 25% more from glove, helmet, amulet, bracer and rings.

Recommended gear to change.
Glove = 10% 10%
Amulet = 6% / 8.5%
Bracer = 4.5% 6%
1 x Ring = 3.5% / 4.5%

so you probably have 24% extra now.
Into fray skill add 3% crit chance too. so become 27% crit chance.

+ the 15% crit chance, u will have bout 42%
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You can get 10% crit from shield.
But with WW & dual wield, you have a lesser gear to fill up the crit % you need.

To put it simple, WW build with crit, you need to MAX OUT crit % from all your gears.
With the balance stats of STR, VIT, AR and LOH (amulet & rings).

In short, you need to have a lot of gold ready for gears.
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post Aug 14 2012, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(turboclinkz @ Aug 14 2012, 02:30 AM)
Lol. Hell? Easy. Changed weapon
twice from 200+ axes to 450+ dmg axes.  5mins ko azmodan

Suddenly now in Inferno, 43k hp like water. Me too soft. ><

How do you guys count dps? N LoH?

Does mine show 6k dps only??
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You can use this to calculate the DPS of your weapon.
http://www.diablodamagecalculator.com/

Generally you need at least 20K of DPS.
Anything lower than that, you need to play co-op with other strong heroes in your team.
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QUOTE(bakabakayaro @ Aug 14 2012, 04:30 PM)
will u guys get boots with + movement speed?

i've been searching ah for weeks and honestly the prices are horrible if i'm searching for 100+ vit  100+ str about 60+ AR and move speed cost about like 20-30 mill over up to 100 mil.. lol

so i actually need movespeed.. cuz chasing them elite with normal movespeed is silly.. but its too ex to buy.. so would u guys want to farm like nuts to buy or till it drops.. or just F it and get str vit and AR boots?  for about 8 mil? cuz i'm having trouble killing/escaping elites in act3 at korsikk bridge.. but thinking about farming till 30 mil or a chance of drop might just make me quit completely.. lol advise. thanks
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Just to add, the movement speed is irrelevant nowadays.

I can see so many Barbs (friends and players at public game) are moving into the direction of whirlwind-tornado.
These Barbs already ran fast enough with sprint + tornadoes.

If course, it is a bonus to have additional movement speed (by skill).
If you are a whirlwind-tornado Barb, I think movement speed on boots is not a must.
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QUOTE(bakabakayaro @ Aug 14 2012, 10:52 PM)
i'm following phonzy's dps crit build. which he says can go all the way to diablo with no problem. so.. doubt i wanna change my gears now. plus no money. this build is to kill stuff so fast i dont really need life on hit and high hp.. or thats wat phonzy describes. hahaha
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So, do you encounter any problem clearing A3/A4?
If there generally is no problem, I think you just stick to your current gear and complete Inferno.

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By the way, you mean this guy?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/phonzy-6334/hero/1728556
He has more than 50% higher DPS than yours. I think that makes a huge difference.
He can kill a normal creep in one blow.
With WotB, he can kill elites in seconds.
With a leap & ignore pain, he can kill another elites in seconds.

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post Aug 15 2012, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(bakabakayaro @ Aug 15 2012, 01:17 AM)
diff build la abang. i'm aiming to kill them before they can hit me. so i need to kill them fast.. LOH help me survive longer.. but it doesnt really compliment the high dps build i'm after, lets not get stuck with the mentality that LOH is a must have, other players and done it without wink.gif
i already share la..  sweat.gif   sweat.gif  i'm not confused, i'mjust asking should i get movespeed or not. thats it.. aduh. i just want to know movespeed is important to have or not... else i'll just skip it and die a couple more times rather than save my life a couple of times.. repair costs is not a problem, cuz farming is pretty simple. main concern is do i need move speed? if yes.. then i need to spend endless hours farming 30mil gold to buy that +12%, and possibly end my social life for another 1-2 months, else i spend less about 5m, and just get a normal vit str ar boots.. and spend the rest of the gold to upgrade my gems. and just go thru inferno with what i got.

i'm sure movespeed is need.. but is it a requirement? or a bonus? not WW barb.. not tanking barb, just pure dps crit, simple question.

skill wise maybe i will change charge with leap, see how that works.. again as i mentioned i'm following phonzy's build..
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/phonzy-6334/hero/1728556

not to say i'm stubborn and not wanting to listen to you guys advise but totally different build.. and if i should follow wat u guys recommend, then i need to sell almost all my gears and get alot of LOH gears.. which probably super expensive now.. which i dont want to do. just wanna upgrade whats left needed to upgrade. thats it. maybe i might change my helm sacrifice abit of crit hit chance and my %6 IAS for more hp and dmg or watever.. but not gonna change the entire strategy..
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Just to finish inferno?
Honestly speaking, your gears are good enough to complete Inferno.
Add me if you want to play co-op @ ALeUNe#6127.
I will have more time to play on Friday 9pm - Saturday 5pm.

We will get few other players to play and let's complete A3/A4. nod.gif

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post Aug 15 2012, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(lepo @ Aug 15 2012, 09:44 AM)
hye bro stevie, this is my build..

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/alfisan...65/hero/5777215

which part should i upgrade next
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Sorry to interrupt.
You have quite low AR, about 350 +/- (unbuffed)?
With offensive passive skills, your DPS is not high enough to kill fast.

I find you have many set items. Those set items aren't really good (i.e. chest armor).
I find those rings aren't really good too.

Based on your current stats, DPS/HP/Armor should be able to do A3/A4.
But with low AR and lack of defensive skills, I think your corpse will be dead-flying when you hit an arcane or few seconds of fire/poison in A3/A4. If you have high AR, at least you can do co-op.

I think you are stuck.
Do you have budget to revamp your gears?
If no, you can only do co-op.
You need other 3 strong players to clear A3/A4 inferno - a WW-Tornado Barb, a Diamond Skin-Frost Nova-Twister Wiz and Monk.
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QUOTE(lepo @ Aug 15 2012, 10:11 AM)
i still can farm within castle area, outside that cannot tahan with range mob..

i got backup chest AR64+, STR 111 +3 socket
sometime i switch,

need advice which part should i upgrade
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If I were you, I will keep both weapons, helm, boots, amulet and pants.
The rest need upgrading.

P/S You will probably need to MAX OUT stats in other items (since your helm/boots/amulet/pants have average stats).
You need to MAX OUT crit on both gloves and bracer.
You need to MAX OUT AR on all other items.
Calculate your VIT and make sure the HP stays at current level, 45K.
Calculate your STR and make sure the DPS stays at current level, 34K.
So, you may need to MAX OUT str & vit in all other gears that require upgrading.

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post Aug 16 2012, 09:57 AM

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Imagine those running WW Barbs with Firewalker boots... drool.gif

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