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ahhoe80
post Oct 8 2012, 12:02 PM

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All at least 60m how to buy sweat.gif cry.gif
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post Oct 8 2012, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Oct 8 2012, 12:02 PM)
All at least 60m how to buy  sweat.gif  cry.gif
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depend stats ler...

nice one sure 60m and above...

haih...
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post Oct 8 2012, 12:23 PM

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can just go for all resist and int like me.. more or less all same specs..

and socketed..

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post Oct 8 2012, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(StratOS @ Oct 8 2012, 12:23 PM)
can just go for all resist and int like me.. more or less all same specs..

and socketed..
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zuni's chest armor and voodoo mask alr come with socket.

i will go for AR as well but exp... sad.gif
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post Oct 8 2012, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(HenryLow @ Oct 8 2012, 12:31 PM)
zuni's chest armor and voodoo mask alr come with socket.

i will go for AR as well but exp... sad.gif
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true but thats wat we WD need.. thumbup.gif
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post Oct 8 2012, 10:10 PM

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I just wonder how some can reach 100k dps without using legendary? Any tip?


Added on October 8, 2012, 10:10 pmI mean if we have 100k dps then no need crit so much

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post Oct 8 2012, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Oct 8 2012, 10:10 PM)
I just wonder how some can reach 100k dps without using legendary? Any tip?


Added on October 8, 2012, 10:10 pmI mean if we have 100k dps then no need crit so much
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I didnt use any legendary (well except for my mojo). Probably cos I cant afford it. Set / Legendaries sometimes abit overpriced in my opinion.

Sometimes can get better stats with rares.

On a side note, I only reach 100k becos of CC and CD sweat.gif If not I also dunno how to mvoe forward
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post Oct 8 2012, 10:50 PM

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I saw barb and DH a lot can reach 100K so wonder how WD reach 100k dps?
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post Oct 8 2012, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Oct 8 2012, 10:50 PM)
I saw barb and DH a lot can reach 100K so wonder how WD reach 100k dps?
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Yes, it is possible.

With high DPS weapon but without CC/CD, you can expect the damage range from 30-45K.
With CC/CD, you can expect the damage range from 45K-80K (it depends on how many CC/CD you have).
With CC/CD/IAS, you can expect the damage from 80K-100K.
With high DPS weapon & mojo + CC/CD/IAS, you can have damage more than 100K.

For damage more than 80K, it is very difficult to keep the high level of LOH/LS.
Meaning you can't have "both worlds" unless you have tons and tons of gold to spend.


Added on October 8, 2012, 11:05 pm
QUOTE(Zelmel @ Oct 8 2012, 10:10 PM)
I just wonder how some can reach 100k dps without using legendary? Any tip?


Added on October 8, 2012, 10:10 pmI mean if we have 100k dps then no need crit so much
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All heroes, Barb/Monk/WD/DH/WZ, requires combination of CC/CD/IAS in order to have 100K DPS.
Many of them have to forgo LOH/LS.
Many of them have to forgo some AR/armor/VIT.
Many of them go for glass canon.

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post Oct 9 2012, 08:07 AM

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Glass canon?


Added on October 9, 2012, 8:12 amI have manage to improve my amour to 4k and ar 500+ or another combi with ar 600++ and amour 3800++ still can't survive especially siege breaker part. Anyway depend on which elite, most of them can kill easily now. Hate the molten + jailer + arcane + kitting elite. And the one throwing fireball one, the fire ball if not careful can die in 4-5 hits. Especially jailer then they throw the fireball and spirit walk is still in cool down. Hehe... Having nice experience when co-op with few of friends here. Gain some tactical experience. Thank for guiding me.


Added on October 9, 2012, 8:23 amI prefer survivability I love to see when both of us and mob fighting and the LOH is keeping up with the mob attack. Kill them slowly. Then it feel like the mob is desperately want to kill you but can't. Haha

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post Oct 9 2012, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 8 2012, 11:03 PM)
Yes, it is possible.

With high DPS weapon but without CC/CD, you can expect the damage range from 30-45K.
With CC/CD, you can expect the damage range from 45K-80K (it depends on how many CC/CD you have).
With CC/CD/IAS, you can expect the damage from 80K-100K.
With high DPS weapon & mojo + CC/CD/IAS, you can have damage more than 100K.

For damage more than 80K, it is very difficult to keep the high level of LOH/LS.
Meaning you can't have "both worlds" unless you have tons and tons of gold to spend.



Added on October 8, 2012, 11:05 pm
All heroes, Barb/Monk/WD/DH/WZ, requires combination of CC/CD/IAS in order to have 100K DPS.
Many of them have to forgo LOH/LS.
Many of them have to forgo some AR/armor/VIT.
Many of them go for glass canon.
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Disagree! Cos u are IMBA enjoying both worlds!! vmad.gif mad.gif rclxms.gif thumbup.gif Ayam just jelly sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Oct 9 2012, 10:17 AM)
Disagree! Cos u are IMBA enjoying both worlds!!  vmad.gif  mad.gif  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif Ayam just jelly  sweat.gif
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I face bottleneck now, bro.

Can't push it higher unless I can get a better weapon, higher DPS + LOH/LS + Crit DMG + socket.
Just couldn't find any. Just too rare... very rare.

Even if there is one, you can expect that piece of weapon will be priced at least 200m.
I think I won't spend 200M on one piece of gear. Just not me.


Added on October 9, 2012, 10:24 am
QUOTE(Zelmel @ Oct 9 2012, 08:07 AM)
Glass canon?
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Canon made of glass.
i.e. High DPS but KO in 1-2 hits.

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post Oct 9 2012, 10:38 AM

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I can see that your current weapon is damn good. Just that its a LOH OS based weapon (with high dps by the way).

Mine is a non LOH based OS weapon but CD oriented (94%). Hence put in another perfect gem inside and you'll have good CD and DPS. THat now depends on whether are u willing to sacrifice your weapon LOH for something else biggrin.gif

My weapon didnt cost 200m for sure. No way in hell im going to spend that biggrin.gif
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i dont think high dps is wat we WD need to aim.. my point of view la.. i think need to be more balanced like AR + standard dps.. survive better in D3..

Even u have 500k dps but resist definitely will be 100 AR.. no use.. hit 1 time die.. will spend more of your hard earn gold repairing..
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I'm at around 600-700+ AR now. Not sure whether that would be sufficient for 1.05. sweat.gif

I usually stay the hell out of the way or at least within Bears range. Too close means trouble sweat.gif
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LOH is easy to understand. How to know whether the life steal % is enough? 2.8% or 3%. How to calculate?
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post Oct 9 2012, 01:19 PM

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Life Steal

The effectiveness of the Life Steal affix – which restores your Life by a percentage of the damage you deal – is reduced in advanced difficulties, as shown:

Normal: 100%
Nightmare: 70%
Hell: 40%
Inferno: 20%

So if inferno thats 0.2 of 2.5= 0.56%. at 100k per hit, you get 560 life per hit.

Thats with condition that u are at 100k dps per hit smile.gif
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QUOTE(Zelmel @ Oct 9 2012, 01:07 PM)
LOH is easy to understand. How to know whether the life steal % is enough? 2.8% or 3%. How to calculate?
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normally no 1 go for life steal unless you're on high DPS..

WD never hit 100k dps if you wanna cover the AR.. hence life steal is just useless..

Better get life regen or LOH.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(StratOS @ Oct 9 2012, 01:27 PM)
normally no 1 go for life steal unless you're on high DPS..

WD never hit 100k dps if you wanna cover the AR.. hence life steal is just useless..

Better get life regen or LOH.. thumbup.gif
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My life regen around 555. No LOH. AR around 600-700 only sweat.gif Although my DPS seems ok but even if do life steal also macam not that much sweat.gif
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post Oct 9 2012, 06:58 PM

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Finally my second legendary, although stat so so only. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
I love the eye. Keep lvl 1, white mob, NV 2. Alost missed it because the keep background is also browninsh
Really cant understand the chances of getting magic item.

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