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HenryLow
post Jul 12 2012, 10:41 AM

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to all sifu, need help here...

new WD player here, currently Lv 56 @ Act 2 (Hell)...

feel very hard to fight elites... sad.gif

current stats i think la:

dps 5.8k
hp 28k
armor 2.3k

skill set:
left mouse = poison dart (splinters)
right mouse = gargantuan (bruiser)
num 1 = spirit walk (jaunt)
num 2 = soul harvest (siphon)
num 3 = fetish army (legion of daggers
num 4 = big bad voodoo (slam dance)
passive = bad medicine, pierce the veil, spirit vessel

follower = enchantress

main hand dagger, off hand snake

these are i can remember...

plz advise...
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post Jul 12 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(RasWong @ Jul 12 2012, 11:00 AM)
Need higher dps and use bear, easy pass hell haha
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higher dps? around how much???

and if using bear, my mana dropped very fast, i don have mana regen items... sad.gif

any tips for me to AH???

what kind of items i should looking for???
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post Jul 12 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Jul 12 2012, 11:21 AM)
1. Garg is just not as useful in Hell, unless you got lots of damage reduction (2.3k armor is just average for Hell).

2. You only use splinters. They are good at 180% damage with 10 mana cost, but they get blocked easily and can only hit 1 target. Without another higher damage skills, you'll need to run around a lot (kiting).

3. BBV - Forgot which is Slam Dance for. Increase 30% damage?
BBV with Rain Dance rune (increase mana flow) or the Ghost Trance (heal) is more useful.
But any BBV runes requires you to stay within close range and can't kite, hence the synergy is broken if you only use darts.
Only useful if you can kill the mobs before they kill you i.e. get high enough DPS to kill them all, or tank the damage and heal yourself.

4. Jungle Fortitude (20% damage reduction) is better than bad medicine for your case, coz darts only hit 1 target at a time so can only affect limited number of mobs at once.

5. Fetish army has long cool down (2 minutes), and only last 20 seconds. If you like those little tykes, try fetish synchophants. If you spam splinter build, can usually have 2 or 3 around and they last 60 seconds wink.gif
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i use gargantuan for decoy, but hell mode it very easy die... sad.gif

was thinking to change zombie bear but the mana cost too high, i always run out of mana... sad.gif

BBV Slame Dance increase 30% Damage. with Soul Harvest and BBV SD, my DPS can reach 10k+... mean if i wan maintain Dart, i need get higher DPS weapon right?

Ya hor, can use JF so i can tahan longer... so do the Gargantuan... Noted...

i use fetish army bcoz when i SH + BBV SD, their damage also increase, i think la... i donno got buff them or not... so i can clear elites faster...
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post Jul 12 2012, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Jul 12 2012, 12:45 PM)
Problem is you're trying many different thing, and they don't synergy well.

Garg need high armor (use shield?) and fierce loyalty so it can regen and survive. Overall pets still doesn't work unless you really got very good gear.
Using BBV to boost dart damage just doesn't make sense when you have other skills that do way more damage to multiple targets. 3 bears hitting 1 large target == 700% damage. You got your DPS boost up, but mobs will be all over you, and you are only hitting 1 at a time plus you cannot move away very far. Will GG very fast.
Fetish is not bad to distract elites and so on, but use up 1 skill slot. Fetish ambush is pretty powerful to save your skin when kena mobbed. Only problem is the high cool down so usually only 1 cast per elite fight.
But having 3 skills with high CD is ... sweat.gif If garg, BBV and fetish all on CD, then you're just sitting duck.

WD is about managing your mana. I don't use VQ, don't like it at all, so managing mana is crucial to me.
Been experimenting using BBV with Rain Dance, but it limits mobility. Don't work well against all types of Elites or in all situations.

Normally I have 1 spam-able damage skill e.g. darts, firebombs, or spiders,
and 1 high hitting, high mana cost attack e.g. bears, bats, acid rain.
Switch between them depend on current mana level and your tactical advantage.
Haunt is another good skill, but I'm outta skill slots!  cry.gif

What is your weapon DPS? I think I got 1 500 DPS knife from my time in Hell. Forgot what's the weapon iLvl already. If suitable for you, you can have it for free.
Oh and enchantress got power armor, increase your armor by 15%.
Waah.. with your gear you still got issue with Act 4? Die la we all  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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i see, thanks for the advice...

i think i going for test:

gargantuan to zombie bear...

changing spirit vessel to fetish sycophants...

bad medicine > jungle fortitude

and how about fetish army > horrify frightening aspect (100% armor) / ruthless terror (gain 27 mana per horrified enemy)

ya using enchantress right now... she using my old weapon... smile.gif

current dagger 249 dps only... around 150 int and 75 vit i think... socketed with flawless square emerald...
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post Jul 13 2012, 10:38 AM

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managed to survive in act 2 now... now reach the checkpoint after acquired Zoltun Kulle's head... smile.gif

new stat (lv 57):

DPS 7k++
Armor 2.1k++
AR 240++
HP 28k++

changed:
Gargantuan > Zombie Bear
Fetish Army > Mass Confusion (Stun Rune)
Bad Medicine > Jungle Fortitude

follower still enchantress
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post Jul 16 2012, 08:28 AM

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Ok sifu, finish hell and now inferno act 1.

Current stats:

DPS 15,047.83
Armor 3895
AR 232++
HP 32,301

Skill set:
Poison Dart (Splinters)
Zombie Charger (Zombie Bears)
Spirit Walk (Jaunt)
Soul Harvest (Siphon)
Mass Confusion (Mass Hysteria)
Big Bad Voodoo (Slam Dance)

Jungle Fortitude, Pierce the Veil, Spirit Vessel

Act 1 elites eat me... sad.gif

Plz advise...
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post Jul 16 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Jul 16 2012, 11:29 AM)
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thanks for the advice...

my play style more to tank coz i am sux on kitting... sad.gif

normally i will try to SW into them and SH, then back off and cast BBV, then spam zombie bears, then poison dart...

BBV increase my DPS, but still they saw food and chase me... sad.gif

i tried to build like Laboo but when i AH, price like berpuluh millions... doh.gif

so now i just buy +AR with +INT and +VIT items... using 800++ DPS spear now... with +1020 shield...

maybe i should go for voodoo mask and mojo and knife??? for mana regen i think...
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post Jul 19 2012, 10:28 AM

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finally can clear act 1, but sometime will die la... depends on elites combo...

AR 450
DPS 18k
HP 30K
Armor 3K+

fought butcher, died few times...

the last time i died and then my fetish armies killed butcher, LOL...
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post Jul 24 2012, 11:38 AM

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new stat up.. act 2 still die... sad.gif

DPS 24K
Armor 5K
AR 550
HP 27K

now only able to farm Act 1, sometime over confident also die... LOL
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post Jul 24 2012, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jul 24 2012, 12:01 PM)
I wonder if any WD uses mojo as off hand kar..as I can see most using shields...

The reason I am asking is I found a nice mojo yesterday ..stats like 108-286 damage, Intel 69, MF 18%, Max mana 111, Chance of Blind ..2.5%, Increase poison dart damage 8% and socket. Fuuyoh..so happy for once managed to get all relevant allfixes. Check GAH.....knn....most mojos selling for like 200k-500k also no one buy...

Sadz..


Added on July 24, 2012, 12:03 pm

Vit bro...get more Vit....and try to retain the rest of the stats..smile.gif Aim about 35k should be fine for Act 2..
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noted...

will go check for affordable items...
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post Sep 14 2012, 11:59 AM

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WD gears not cheap at all... sad.gif
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post Sep 21 2012, 10:33 AM

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new build... but still weak... sad.gif

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HenryLo...2/hero/13130048
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post Oct 1 2012, 09:54 AM

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i still ragu ragu should i go for Manajuma's set or just get the Thing of the Deep...

Thing of the Deep very tempting ler stat:
+ max mana
+ crit chance
+ int
+ pickup radius
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post Oct 1 2012, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 1 2012, 09:57 AM)
Alternatively, Uhkapian Serpents
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these 3 i am considering:

Uhkapian Serpents
Thing of the Deep
Manajuma's Gory Fetch (as i thinking to get Manajuma's Carving Knife)

but with limited of gold... i really headache... sad.gif

cheap one low dmg... sad.gif
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post Oct 1 2012, 05:33 PM

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ya i would like to have the Manajuma's Ornaments effect...

with my current gold, i can't buy any of them yet... sad.gif
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post Oct 3 2012, 01:43 PM

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yup mana issue, tht's why i am using ghost bomb LOL...
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(ahhoe80 @ Oct 3 2012, 01:49 PM)
i used to SUPER love Ghost bomb in HELL. Maybe because that time i was overpowered. But decommissioned it since i entered inferno. Although AOE is nice but the extra 20-30% on the AOE abit hard to kill. Maybe because my dps not high enough that time. Sommore i noticed that the Ghost bomb, the actual casting movement is taking precious miliseconds. So i told myself, screw it, use darts instead  sweat.gif

Not huge, 60% of weapon damage together with splinters. But at least it shoots fast. haha. If they get too near then spam bears.

I tried the good AOEs like hujan katak and acid rain. Mana issues  sweat.gif  blush.gif

ALeUNe can share ur built?  notworthy.gif
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i see, actually i still ragu ragu btw ghost bomb and poison darts...
the purpose i am using ghost bomb, i can see how many mobs still remaining if i stay far...
as i enable the dmg count display...

i always let my gargantuan and leeching dogs attacks the mobs...
then i sw inside and soul harvest then go behind pets and spam bears...

yes ghost bomb slow kill... my solo dps only 27K... LOL...

but ok la... some elites only really eat me... but most of the time can survive... smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Oct 3 2012, 02:06 PM)
Just a note on the rain of toads.

Only the animation is slow. The damage is immediate.
I mean the HP of the monsters is drained immediately once you click the mouse click (before the animation/rain starts).
Rain of toads is not slow.
You don't need to wait for few miliseconds (like the zombie bears).
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to build RoT need very high DPS and LoH???

saw ur stat, very high AR and LoH...

and last time LoH gears very exp, now i donno... sad.gif
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:15 PM

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yewwww.

u both imba build betoi...

now serpent or frog or chicken...

but i really want try ghom fart build... LOL...
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post Oct 3 2012, 02:22 PM

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fuh... tempting...

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