Meaning Shanks was not a good manager or not 'normal'  

The case of Torres and Owen is pretty similar only that the latter left for free transfer and he made it worse when he snubbed us for Newcastle just because for more $.

The things I couldn't take was .. how he backstabbed the club shortly after joining Chelsea and the lack of effort in his last 6 months. Alonso and Mascherano thought about leaving but they still put 110% in their last season.

If you look all the way to the top I guess H&G is responsible for the Barry/Alonso saga for not providing Rafa with sufficient funds. To be fair, since H&G took over Rafa hasn't really been provided with decent funds apart from the signings of Torres, Mascherano and Keane but he was sold back almost immediately to Spurs. We were lacking depth in so many departments, we have no proven striker apart from Torres, Kuyt was played as a winger, N'gog isn't good enough to lead the line for Liverpool. But in all honesty, I feel he could have chose some other players to be offloaded rather than Alonso.

Personally I agree with Rafa's statement. Offense win games but Defense win titles. Yes you have to score to win but more often than not you will end up losing points due to poor defenses (look at Arsenal) hence balance is important. He said wingers are important, yes if you view them as the source of creativity in the final 3rd but look at the wingers we had Kuyt (hardworking but not creative), Riera (only decent), Babel (wants a more central role), Benayoun (lacks pace, more of a free role player). Maybe not Rafa's fault as I remember reading an article where he stated he wanted to buy some attacking flair players (forgot who) but wasn't provided with the funds.

my choice on order of preference

1) Mourinho (vast experienve)
2) Capello   ( a no nonsense man )
3) AVB   ( youth and dare to try youngster )
4) D Matteo ( master tactician and youth )

abt Rafa, NO Way, he is a spent force, maybe he will be better as a sports writer

But Rafa should not have sold Alonso, we went downhill after selling the Maestro.

I do want AVB to get the job. I like him when he was in Porto and had hoped he would manage Liverpool. But he went to Chelsea instead plus King Kenny got the job.

For those who loved, loves Torres:



That is the excitement that I mentioned:

It's Torres again...
Check out: 6:02, there's nice by Torres, Here comes Gerrard!!!!!!! Wonderful.
Benayoun, Torres....... 2 - nil
Torres, what a score for Liverpool!!
Aurelio Cross, Torres !!!!

Although I support Rafa like you did, I have to disagree on this part. Alonso, Torres and Reina weren't nobody. Alonso was back then the captain of Sociedad, Torres was captain of A.Madrid. Reina was one of the most promising keeper in La Liga. They are not unknown. Mascherano, albeit did not play well in West Ham, was well known in europe. Riera was Espanyol player of the season before we bought him. The list goes on... Though I must give credit to Rafa for getting them here and make the best out of them. Brilliant.

Yes he does. apparently his ego is as big, if not worse than Mourinho's.

yes, they werent basically unknown but yet they are not the type of player that would attract top clubs. but when they come to liverpool, suddenly they are wanted by every major club

move on guys

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Added on May 22, 2012, 2:32 amDeschamps ruled out Liverpool job.

Do we gonna like to ask everyone??!

Cheap?
Have you considered their salaries as well?   

... on the stadium...

On anoter note,

"Phil Dowd, one of England’s top referees, is facing a sudden fight to save his career after it emerged on Tuesday night that he has failed a fitness test to continue next season."
Another top referee gone after Walton? Oh god.

We are a funny bunch though... the season before we were complaining about the two clowns washing our dirty laundry in public, and now we write in to complain about being kept in the dark about the club's business.

F*ck, if i were the owners i will tell the supporters to GTFO, honest. Some of us supporters have an overvalued sense of entitlement, really.

Back to football matters though, seems that Rafa's nowhere close to even being on the shortlist, if the reports are to be believed, no?

Wont be surprised if the manager is someone not even in media reports' shortlist. Hahaha

... let's agree to disagree.

It's not to discredit the owner. It's about being cautious and vigilant in time of crisis. Have we not learned anything during H&G era ?

Guys, rumours out there saying we're interviewing capello...zzz.. i thought they wanted a young, up coming manager with attacking philosophy?

You've not pointed out anything. Transfer kit has been offset by us selling players and reducing wages i.e loaning out Cole, Aqualani, freezing out senior members on performance wages i.e. Kuyt, Carra, Maxi etc. FSG have not appointed any football know-how personnels in the boardroom. The fact that you say it's a none issue shows you're as blinkered as the Kenny die hard fans.

Hi folks, take 2 mins of ur time and read this.

Why AVB might make it in Liverpool and not chelsea.
http://katecohensoccer.wordpress.com/2012/...rpool%E2%80%8F/

After reading this, and getting to noe more about AVB's football philosphy. I find it very interesting to know how liverpool's gonna do in EPL next season with him as manager. Totally clear off my doubt about him. And like the writer stated, our team is young, energetic. All we need is a man to instill the philosophy and winner mentality into their mindset.