Complete overhaul it seems.

i think he is american if im not wrong..
Former Liverpool star Gary McAllister has told talkSPORT that he doubts if Roberto Martinez would be able to attract the players the club need to get back into the top four.

The Spaniard has managed Wigan for the last three seasons and despite battling at the lower end of the Premier League he has guided the club to safety in each of them.
Their recent form has been excellent and before the end of the 2011/12 campaign the Latics beat Man United, Arsenal, Newcastle and the Reds, adding to his rising stock.
And now Liverpool have been given permission to speak to the talented 38-year-old as they look to replace outgoing Kenny Dalglish.
McAllister, though, feels he may not have the ability to bring in the type of player the club needs to get themselves back into the Champions League.
“Roberto Martinez is up and coming, there is no doubt about that,” he told Kick Off. “The major thing that Martinez has got in his favour is the style of play, he’s very forward thinking, he’s quite inventive and I think that’s a plus.
“There is also the problem of whether he can attract the type of player that Liverpool need to get into the Champions League.
“I think it’s more in today’s game. I think in the past Liverpool was Liverpool but now I think that top players are attracted by top managers, managers that have been and done the distance.
“I’m a fan of Martinez, don’t get me wrong, but he’s battling away at the wrong end of the league for his entire Premier League career.”

i think gary has his point..and i kinda agree with him

Wigan chairman Dave Whelan confirmed he had given permission for Martinez, the bookmakers’ favourite to replace Dalglish, to speak to Liverpool’s American owners Fenway Sports Group.

ouch, that's a bit under the belt.   
honestly, 30 million is better than nothing. there are managers that eye good talent, good network scout, as long as there is a vision. if not good enough (hey things arent always right all the time right?) then wheel deal in the market again.

Its been reminded it will be a long haul, it a sad pity KD isn't kept to set thing right. nontheless we move on.
KD still has liverpool in his heart. I think KD is confident that FSG isnt like our greedy G&H.

I didn't hear the whole thing, but caught snipets of mix fm's morning show saying that KD is in a bit of a pickle as he has been sacked and has no other skills for other jobs?
Could someone who actually heard the whole show go give them a slap on their facebook page?

Well the "i want KD out" brigade won. Now will they support the new manager, if its Martinez?

I may speak too soon, but KD > Martinez, anytime, any day.

Martinez? You gotta be kidding me

Quote from: mikey_LFC on Yesterday at 10:35:44 PM

What has the world come to? Kenny Dalglish sacked by LFC.

Just pause for a second a read this, the title of the thread. How has society sunk so low, where something like this occurs and people don't even take so much as a second glance. The man who has been Liverpool through and through since he joined almost 35 years ago.

The man who became the legend, the legend who became the manager, the manager who became the King. A living Legend if there ever was one. Kenny Dalglish who played 322 games and scored 167 goals for the club. The greatest footballer to ever wear the red of Liverpool. The winner of 9 League Championships and 3 European Cups. The man who unified the city of Liverpool through it's darkest days, setting an example that can not be underestimated when it was needed most. The King who returned to steady the club when  in steep decline.

This is the man, Legend, King that has been sacked. King Kenny sacked by the club he loves, the club which he has dedicated his life to. Sacked in a season when he reached two cup finals, returned the Liverpool to Wembley for the first time in 17 years, and won the League Cup, which made him one of only a handful of people to have managed a club to winning every domestic trophy in England. A season where Liverpool returned to Europe and provided some great memories along the way. Doing the double of Everton, beating Chelsea three times, including twice at Stamford Bridge, those hat-tricks from Steven Gerrard and Luis Suarez, the trips to Wembley, the first trophy in almost 6 years, and some great football, some great interviews, and those Kenny celebrations with that smile, a smile which lit up Anfield every time we scored.

Sure we had some bad results and a few bad performances, but we were so close to some great performances, a post away from wins, a few penalty misses away from a better season, a couple of refereeing decisions away from being higher in the league or winners in the FA cup. It's very easy to look at a results table and forget about all those near misses and good performances without the finishing touch. It's even easier to forget how bad we were the season before, and how much our performances had improved under King Kenny. Sure we were 37 points behind the champions, but in terms of how much more we needed to be a lot higher up the table, how much more did we really need, one striker, one midfielder, maybe one defender. I would suggest we were only a few players from the top 4 and, a couple of lucky breaks from challenging for the title.

Were we really going backwards? Were we really so far away that we needed to start again? Did we really need to reshape the club from top to bottom? Was the season really that poor that we needed to sack the Legend that had done so much for the club?

The simple answer is no.

You may try and excuse the actions of Fenway Sports Group, maybe you'll say 'They deserve the benefit of the doubt' or the 'No one person is bigger than the club' line. Sure maybe they do deserve time to reshape the club and of course nobody is bigger than the club. However total wholesale changes weren't needed, and even if he isn't bigger than the club, that does not hide the fact he deserves better than this. The man as done so much throughout his life for this club, does he really deserve just 16 months to turn the club around, does he really not deserve more respect from everyone than he is getting. The lack of respect shown to him from some fans, sections of the media and from the owners is truly saddening.

Maybe this is what the world has become. A world free from respect, a world free from sentimentality, a ruthless world where past achievements and actions count for nothing. I'm probably just being old-fashioned in feeling that Kenny Dalglish deserved better from Liverpool football club than for things to end up like this, after everything he's done, for him to get sacked. It is probably just weak of me to believe the class and greatness the man has shown towards the club and towards it's tradition deserved better and more time than this, after all we did miss out on the glorious heights of fourth place this season.

For all I know, the strategy taken by our owners may lead to Champions League and Premiership success. It may lead us to dominate world football for the next few decades. But there is a way of achieving success, a dignified way with which you can keep your moral integrity. Again it's probably just me but personally success by any means possible does not sit well, and taking the view that the end justifies the means just seems plain wrong.

This might be the modern world, this might be modern football, and if we don't change our ways we maybe left behind. Maybe this is what the world has come to, but ask yourself is achieving success through these new ways really what you want. Do you really want to win trophies by any means possible? Or would you rather we kept our dignity, kept our integrity and went about things in a way which Liverpool Football Club, with all its history and tradition, deserves?

I don't know about everyone else but if success at any cost is what the world has come to, I'm not sure I want to live in that world.

The only thing I'm afraid of when we go for a young manager is that he couldn't cope with the pressure in Liverpool. We all know expectations from the board and fans are high & how stressful it is even for a manager like Dalglish.
Well, there's a half-scouse half Spanish manager who's living at Merseyside, jobless and waiting for a call.

ABK - Anyone But Kenny.

FSG had NO backup plan. Just sack KD and be merry.

Well, i want a change of manager indeed, but please not a mid table team manager like Martinez.

It's a bit unfair to write him off at this point though, I don't rate him highly and so does Wigan, no offense.

Why the heck FSG is not bringing Rafa back continues to baffle me.

who in the right mind wants to be with an owner like FSG who wants instant results in one season with a squad that we have?

Gasping for air? We have so many managers who are more qualified and reputable than Martinez available at the moment.

Rafa Benitez, Capello, Hiddink just to name a few.

Not happy with the selection of Martinez doesn't mean we are regretting our stand to replace Kenny Dalglish.

Capische? You clearly still bitter about the decision to remove KK and trying to vent your little childish frustation on non KD supporters.

I beg to differ that we turned against our 'savior' ie FSG. The cowboys were taunted as saviours as well when they first bought us from the Moores. The lesser of 2 evil is still evil. It makes it better but it doesn't guarantee goodness.

I as a Liverpool fan am not too concerned about the sacking of King Kenny. Targets were set and agreed upon by both parties and I fully understand FSG's decision. Having said that, their inexperience in dealing with footballing matters and their lack of clear concise direction is definitely worrying. Pardon me for sounding a bit xenophobic, but they are trying too hard to force their USA sporting franchise business model into the LFC organisation. Everything feels a bit too black and white and too much emphasis is placed upon specialisation. They need to understand that in order to be a successful 'product' (Yes, I cringed as much as you did), LFC needs to be an institution first and a business second. To me they have it the other way around. I hope I am very wrong though.

And you know what is polarising us? Results. Win and there are no complaints. Lose and suddenly everyone has an opinion. And you know what people say about opinions and arseholes.

Sorry, but I feel he was just a passenger in that team.. Drogba almost single handed lt carry the whole team.

Somebody is a bit bitter today

Good managers would normally deliver good results in one season (12 months).
Good results in terms of game results, depth of squad, good football, good signings and developments.

Please, Shankly was like 50-60 years ago.
Time changed. And I don't see you can implement the same in modern football.

Just like King Kenny, he had the record win % during his first term as Liverpool manager.
He was 35 years old at the time.  And it's like 27 years ago.

King Kenny's 2nd return, he's already 60 years old.
I doubt you can assume he'd produce the same result.

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Would u have him bak?