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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Bye Dirk Kuyt!

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post May 21 2012, 03:53 PM

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@xmonkzRafa,

Before Kenny was fired, I asked you a question about who Liverpool needs to compete in the top 4 next season and you replied that you didn't want to talk about that as we had staff in charge at LFC.

Now that we don't have staff and many of us are hoping that you will be the new boss; can I ask you that question again?

Who do you think Liverpool need to bring in to compete in the league? Or do you think we just need a different mentality?

Response:

Hello, still I can't answer sorry.


Rafa has high respect for K Dalglish. Never at all offer any attempt to cast a shadow over Dalglish spell. Still as stubborn Spanish dude whistling.gif cool2.gif


We are in the need to be be informed of the situation at lfc (anxious). Nothing we can do but wait.


While the tide from several forums may indicate the response towards wanting our ex gaffer, I think to be fair, FSG may want to practice impartially on their candidates.

Part of me would like to see the return of bentitez, part of me accepts the possibility it can be someone else. My only wish whoever it is, if its the someone else, won't fail in the pressure department or the need to be spell bound to fergie's mind games aka roy the englund manager.

That's all cool2.gif

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post May 21 2012, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ May 21 2012, 08:53 PM)
seriously up till now still no words from FSG..damn pissed la
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Manage to pick a few below amongst the many, many post in rb.com. One thing is common in rafa's response is he feels fans should stick together behind the team.



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"The Liverpool needs coaching of our Rafa again and he will be always there for the great club"

Response:

Thanks for your support, but it is time to stay behind the team. All the best.


Virgil Tubbs
"Hlong can the disasters especially at home be tolerated?
It's time for the second coming of Rafa!"

YNWA

Response:

Hello, thank you again for the support, but as I said before. It is time to stick together behind the team. Thanks.




AL, A Rd End Red.
"Good Day, Mr Benitez.
There are many many questions I'd like to ask, with regards your final day's at our club. Player and owner involvement in your departure would be one. I have heard many rumours regarding Carra, Gerrard & Purslow, which I understand you can't explain here.
Your tactical awareness and dedicated analysis of minuet detail is sorely missed!
Frightening to think what you would have created with the best part of £75 mil...
The one question I do have, which can be answered is, would you ever return?

Happy Easter Rafa, to you and your family...
Looking forward to the 2nd coming!!!

YNWA"

Response:

Hello, I said before that it is time to stick together behind the team but I appreciate your support.Thanks.



We have always been credited as the best fans, the most vocal, the most supportive, even Rafa have told mourino, the special ones isn't him but the Liverpool fans.








Below was a response not by Rafa but either an admin there or someone close to Rafa

"it's going to be ok mate.

relax.

Rafa can never say if he has or will be in contact. NEVER.
The media just want a story and it is actually none of their business.

The new owners want the club to succeed, that is what's important. They will do what they can to the best of their ability.

There is no rush for Rafa to return. We want what is best for Rafa as his supporters and what is best for the club as it's supporters.


Have some warm milk with honey before you go to bed and think positive smile.gif"

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post May 22 2012, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 22 2012, 03:09 AM)
Although I support Rafa like you did, I have to disagree on this part. Alonso, Torres and Reina weren't nobody. Alonso was back then the captain of Sociedad, Torres was captain of A.Madrid. Reina was one of the most promising keeper in La Liga. They are not unknown. Mascherano, albeit did not play well in West Ham, was well known in europe. Riera was Espanyol player of the season before we bought him. The list goes on... Though I must give credit to Rafa for getting them here and make the best out of them. Brilliant.
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Mascherano, if i remember didnt get a start at all at West Ham then. word was they he didnt he wouldn't fit into english league, didn't know how to play him and being smaller in frame, they probably think english players will bully him to death cool2.gif


irony.




before lfc, alonso, torres, reina they were good at their respective teams, of one of the many, many, many football names, only from liverpoolfc, their names etched itself into the imagination of millions liverpool fans worldwide. Their appeal transcends continents! cool2.gif

but hold on, hold on


lest we forget the lesser known liverpool players *biscan, vonorin, ponggolle, pennant, sissoko, gonzalez, diao, cheyrou, traore etc they are fringe players but still contributed in small parts at liverpoolfc.


*(from houllier/rafa's time)

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post May 22 2012, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 22 2012, 09:36 AM)
what Paul Dalglish thinks......about Liverpool's next manager
"First we have to be realistic, just like we have to be realistic with player targets. Many names have already turned it down. We are not in the CL and we are not based in London.

Many foreign managers and players want to live in London. Therefore we will have about 5th choice on players that want to come to the EPL after City, Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and possibly Spurs. Tax in the UK for players is 50% (edit 45%) so we have to pay players and coaches more to come here.

So if we are 5th or 6th choice in the UK and behind other countries as a destination to play, then we have to be realistic about who we can bring in and what players they can attract when we do.
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FACT

REALITY


now can some of you chaps, look at yourself in the mirror & get off the high horse, stop asking for fantasy football managers ie mournino, and whatever your glorious idol player

that's what i've been saying, draw a parallel, if Liverpool is klang, the rest are KL & PJ, offer you a job, most of you will think twice & cannot imagine giving up the perks of bright lights of city life. (and multiple 3X the distance you need to travel)

and to think just pay more lah, what? outbid salaries of Man City, Chelsea, ManU ??


we cant even afford salaries of aquilani & cole to SIT on the bench. We have to them LOANED out to save cost

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post May 22 2012, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ May 22 2012, 10:30 AM)
in the end, it just between avb or martinez with rafa the last choice,,,

de boer, deschamp and others link are just media jokes... there's not even liverpool link in the quote
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I think they know rafa. don't need to interview him.

Deep down they know it's too early to get him back.
He has unfinished business here, but said only if its the best interest for the club, the liverpool fans and a workable project.

I think FSG knows that too well hence the silence on the stadium (for now). they are looking at revamping working models to generate more revenue for the club to sustain for the long term.

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post May 22 2012, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Adryan @ May 22 2012, 09:05 PM)
And yeah, no power, definitely not the job Rafa Benitez would take.
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Forget Rafa..

How about mourino, josep guardiola, capello, joachim low as some of our forumers most ideal replacement for Dalglish?? blink.gif rolleyes.gif

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post May 23 2012, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ May 22 2012, 11:54 PM)
there have been a rumour di matteo will be axe this week, mr roman thinks that di matteo managed to win barcelona and bayern is all down to luck
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Was listening to a *podcast the other day of some ex english players, word around the camp, he's (di matteo) is only able to offer collective views from the senior players around there, even in team selections.

Not someone who really orchestrates, what he does was seek & goes by the majority how the team is selected, formation etc. He doesn't enforce the "i'm the manager", but "hey I'm just a class monitor, I'm one of you guys, ok" (which is why i guess a certain striker felt pissed there) cool2.gif

which is why too, i guess, RA isn't gonna risk that for long term.






*its was just after the chelsea win, damn i cant remember which site. was on so many sites that day. Quite a long set, also touched on a lot of football issues, liverpool before the comment on weather DM is the man for long term.

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QUOTE(nando @ May 23 2012, 02:41 PM)
I've said this before and will say this again for fun  `Jose, if you ever want to be seen as the greatest club manager ever, leave your comfort zone and big budget Madrid, and come and revive this sleeping giant that is Liverpool. 
Lead us to a title, and you're forever be seen as one of the greats, if not the greatest'. tongue.gif
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As I said before, Jose mourino will never, never, take up a work to rebuild. After Porto, all the clubs he took over, had a certain amount of core within the squad, all he need is the club owners to splash big, really big as in the case of real Madrid. Who he wanted (players) at any cost.

Liverpool for him or just any club without fort knox to bank roll the club does NOT interest him. Behind the facade, he ain't the sentimental type, he is very very ambitious no doubt, just all this crap about his putting players first, rubbish. He sets them on a task to kick, cheat, studs high, to hell of dignity at whatever cost for a important win.

As so some of you should know...





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Mourinho Signs On...

Jose Mourinho has signed a new contract tying him to Real Madrid until 2016. He didn't fancy the Liverpool job.
He's not even bothered about the possibility of coming back to the more likely-soon-vacating-Chelsea's-seat, back to his adoring Chelsea fans.

Like I said, he wants to be a winner, whoever who bank rolls his big ambition.

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Him not worried. Seems Quite relax about it. Pretty sought after/invited to lots of talks at different levels. He doesn't stop football even after being a manager, look at how developing app with his partners, his site, uefa talks, seminars, going to football games. (That's guy predicted 21/22 players lined up on 2012 CL. Still sharp mind, I suppose)






If the final 2 boils down to AVB or Martinez, What are the call favors here??

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post May 23 2012, 06:28 PM

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Impromptu poll, given the strong indication from the media campfire, with the rest drop off or indicated outright, not interested.

Hope guys here will give their 2 cents. After all, it don't hurt cool2.gif



AVB = 2 (led_zep_freak/PPZ)

Martinez = 2 (chenwfng/koolspyda)



Well, the rest just copy paste n edit accordingly. Even those who didn't want to see KD off or glad FSG is going places

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Aussie football(er)! Defender.

Hope he doesn't tackle with his hands tongue.gif
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post May 24 2012, 06:27 AM

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ May 24 2012, 05:34 AM)
Liverpool fans want former boss Rafa Benitez back but the Reds' principal owner, John Henry, has other ideas and it is another Spaniard, Martinez, he wants at the helm.
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It's becoming clear reason FSG, who deemed not to have rafa in the shortlist despite an overwhelming call (online poll & sentiments on the street) is because his power to wield over the LFc fans as he is vocal, & when the owners don't fulfil promises /aren't KEPT under whatever circumstances. That has a potential backlash that will cloud FSG over the years. Nothing else. No silly/stupid excuses that he is old, ancient, out of touch football and fans. Rafa has already said aeons ago that only at a better, ideal scenario of a long term vision project will only interest him.

Rafa is like any LFC fan in this case, being vigilant, as one of our local forumer, a very knowledgeable staunch LFc fan too mentioned "we simply cannot be too trusting", "the need to protect the sanctity of the club" .

After all being american is pretty more about sporting franchise then something personal (given FSG are in boston red sox (baseball), their first love/sports investment. They are not Abramovich nor Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan/Abu Dhabi United Group of Man City. We might be sceptical of rich, rich owner, have a perception of them being playboys, spoilt rich brats, of having an impression of them when they lose interest, they will discard it.

There is also something that I notice too about people of wealth, having knowing some of them personally, they can be cautious about money, spend when there is a opportunity too but the biggest thing you will see is they are extremely DRIVEN.

We dismiss abramovich when he first entered to foray. We can laugh about their silly money, their-know-nothing but just big wealthy owners. The one thing really about money is the ability to go out and hire anyone they have in mind.

I'm not saying we should instead now plea for a sheik or a oil baron, most of us are drawn to being a liverpool fan because of what the club stands for. We and most fans should never, never underestimate their (owners of chelsea/Man city) hunger to prove otherwise. it's personal for them.

So back to where i think FSG would go, it's pretty much left to a two-horse race AVB vs Martinez. All the other 'contestents', rodgers, klopp, boer etc personal favourites of some of us have indicated not interested in the link to liverpool after the media started to line up the dotted lines.

To the media, it seem FSG is playing russian roulette with the list of managers But not wanting to hire a loaded magnum (rafa), they want a paint ball specialist, safer option, could be just as good. Whether it will hit the target with the fans ultimately, we'll wait and see.

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Villas-Boas out of contention as Liverpool have second thoughts
The prospect of Rafael Benitez returning is remote, despite a fans' online campaign



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Liverpool's search for a new manager narrowed last night, as Andre Villas-Boas fell out of the running.

The club felt that the former Chelsea manager was enough of a prospect that they made discreet contact with his representatives before Kenny Dalglish's dismissal. But Liverpool now appear to have decided that the 34-year-old is not a candidate.

Villas-Boas's agent, Carlos Gonçalves, created the impression yesterday that his client had a number of clubs seeking his services, though his ill-fated nine-month spell at Stamford Bridge makes appointing him a calculated risk and there appear to be fewer offers on the table than Gonçalves suggested.

The list of possible successors to Dalglish still includes Wigan Athletic's Roberto Martinez, who is on holiday in the Caribbean, and there is also the prospect of Fenway Sports Group going back to Brendan Rodgers of Swansea City, who rejected an initial approach because of the number of candidates being considered. Rodgers said last Friday that he was rejecting "the current opportunity".

Louis van Gaal is a prime contender for a new sporting director's role, though the Dutch view is that the 60-year-old former Ajax and Netherlands coach, who has been out of work since he was sacked by Bayern Munich 13 months ago, would prefer the manager's job.

The prospect of Rafael Benitez returning seems to be very remote, despite the launch of an online "#talktorafa" campaign by fans. A source close to the Spaniard has indicated that Benitez is willing to prove himself again at Liverpool, where he won the Champions League seven years ago. The allure of Liverpool remains greater than any other job available, in Benitez's mind.

Villas-Boas, who is weighing up the Roma position vacated by Luis Enrique, wants a top managerial position. He has always been interested by Liverpool – despite saying on Sunday that he was "still choosing the right project and that decision will take the necessary time".

Yesterday, Gonçalves said: "We are looking for a strong, solid and long-term project. Villas-Boas would like to coach under these conditions but if it's not possible he won't have a problem to stay inactive for now. I don't confirm or deny contacts with specific clubs. We are interested to know the perspective and the length of the contract. Liverpool? Once more, I just say that we want a strong and competitive club."

It is understood that Liverpool want to make any directorial appointments before securing a new manager, to stop Dalglish's successor feeling undermined. Of the timeframe for appointing a manager, the managing director, Ian Ayre, said last week: "We are all aware that you want to be active in the transfer market and have that manager back looking at his players and his squad. You certainly would want to have someone in place for when the players are coming back for pre-season, which is July."



As it seems,
Brendan Rodgers who rejected as not interested in beauty parade (kicks out AVB from list) vs Roberto Martinez
odds are more to Martinez, and then whoever next..




...and we could see the news in the next few days

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post May 24 2012, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(leftist @ May 24 2012, 10:59 AM)
if its between rodgers & martinez..i prefer rodgers..but whoever it is,they will have my 100% backing!
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FSG doesn't quite like the almost public rejection hence the list is pretty much to the (little 2) few listed. it may usual that things are done in US, but being in europe, UK, its a bit different.

ian rush i believe mentioned (think was it a tweet?) that Lfc fans should be a little more open, than to discard the possibility of Lfc picking martinez (or anyone whom fans/players thinks he isn't up for bigger club)



Someone posted this in the other thread
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this is harsh for Liverpool fans, but hopefully they will come back in UCL soon.


By the time Liverpool claimed*£100,000 in prize money for lifting the Carling Cup in February, Chelsea had already earned a staggering £42m from the Champions League.


As Fenway sift through a depressingly shallow list of candidates to replace Dalglish as manager, Chelsea will be preparing to bank a cheque in excess of £50m from the Champions League alone.


If the basterds G&H had reinvested wisely the money we made in CL, transfers of players & not just used to service the loans, and publicly flogged us by trying for the highest bid to asia & some dodgy middle east consortium, we probably would not be in such a shitte path these number of years.



*not sure if that's the prize money amount, but it sure hell feels like salt to the open wound.

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QUOTE(Adryan @ May 25 2012, 06:57 AM)
user posted image
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a fun poke of their conversation tongue.gif





JohnWHenry: "Do you want the job"

Martinez: "Of course, John. And i have a list of new players which i believe will bring the fortunes of the club back in this ipad"


JohnWHenry: "Hmm, who are they?"

Martinez:"Alonso, Torres, Marcherano,...."

JohnWHenry: "Hmm, aren't they the ones that played under benitez?"

Martinez: "errr, yes, but they are familar, and the fans wants..."

JohnWHenry:"No"

Martinez:"oky"

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No seriously, I'm sure martinez have some ideas, how to fix our club. Welcome martinez! (all it takes is a henry nod)

I was pretty sure he's in the loop of the final consideration a few pages back tongue.gif this only confirms it.

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QUOTE(leftist @ May 25 2012, 10:29 AM)
what he must do now...interview Brendan Rodgers for fark sake! shakehead.gif
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/ma...rs-swansea-city

Brendan Rodgers: Spain have been a great model for me over many years
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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On that score, one would assume he's still learning (which is a good trait),
Spain(ish) = 1, Rodgers = 0 ??

On the scenario, he sets the team to hold the ball at times, possession, selecting options, probing (boring to some, seems like playing chess like?)

Instead of all out, attack, tiring out players unlike as often we were seemed to be often caught out? Just a thought.




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Both have stress, right? Bigger then Barcelona.

Chelsea, the whims of RA, Liverpool, the ennourmous expectations of the lfc fans, but I think the satisfaction will be managing ours, if he does get it right. The few things going for us, (as in the media puts it), we have less baggage of old wood, granted caroll, Henderson, the the others didn't really show up last season, they still could shine, become a better stone (doubt will be a world class diamond) or somewhat.

Somewhat tempting but the word 'seduce' may seem that it could be beyond us. May not be in terms of remuneration but a long term project & backing cool2.gif . The odds are more in favourly of Chelsea. They always want the best, if the could. Expensive lesson sometimes, but hey, the 'drive' in RA has only just been wetted now that he has finally clinched his hands on the cool silverware of CL trophy.

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Come on guys, let's give him a slack (if it's Martinez)

Our old boys, players are asking us to be open. It was a difficult time, as much as some of us hoped KDalglish would be given another opportunity to right the wrong, what happen, happened, we move on.

If it's Martinez, be it then. We'll give our support. Big names may not be attracted to us now, let's be real (no CL). Accept it. We are the type to cry over spilled milk and throw tantrums, toys all over.

I hope some of us acknowledge that while we may have different in opinions, let's not resort to name callings, n be adult about it. cool2.gif



YNWA


QUOTE(Adryan @ May 25 2012, 08:47 PM)
Yeah, maybe he isn't the ideal candidate. I mean, why sack a manager who brought us to two finals for one who has a good 6-8 weeks every season .. I will never know. But I will support him, even if he is not my choice (but I don't really have any specific choices but who wouldn't want Pep or Rafa) .. unless he starts talking like Hodgson.

But in all fairness, I don't want a 'yes man' or puppet. I want a manager who can also stand his ground. If we go down the Hodgson way again of a 'yes man' .. I think we'll be in alot of trouble.
Well, in the past, he has said nice things about Liverpool, more specifically the work of Rafa Benitez, the fans and the academy. Pep grew up in the similar way (in terms of importance of academy and continuity of philosophy) at La Masia and Barcelona.

So .. well, it's definitely unlikely but I'm just praying LOL. He isn't that old and I'm sure the players would relish working with him after what he has achieved in the last 4 years.
Yeah, he just wanna surprise all of us eh  rclxms.gif he's been preparing for this since 2007 with that interview, then the interview again in .. 2009 or 2010 .. now he's just waiting for the seduction LOL
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Not everyone sing praises about Rafa, he was and still is one of us, even if he never get a chance to manage Liverpool FC, though I will never discount it completely. cool2.gif

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QUOTE(Adryan @ May 26 2012, 03:26 AM)
Thanks .. that's a decent article as well in terms of saying we why should not write off the likes of Martinez and AvB.

Okay, I think this may be the 100th time I've stated it but I'll say it again.

I remember I've read that Johan Cruyff kinda (i'm not sure) modelled the Barcelona philosophy in terms of playing style from the 1980s Liverpool (no coincidence that La Masia only got revamped towards the end of 1980s).

In La Masia (which believed revamped in 1988), kids are trained from a very young age to play the Barcelona way that Cruyff had in his vision back then, which is what we've seen in the last many years and especially the last 4 years. This ensures continuity all the way up to under-12, 14, 16, juvenile to the first team. Players are recruited as early as 7 and everyone recruited, must be have similar playing style or something. As I stated late, 1980s, its no surprise that Guardiola, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, Pique, Messi, Fabregas, Valdes, Reina and even Arteta all come from that "talented group".

Now back to the Liverpool team, Rafa Benitez brought in Segura and Borrell and they both are doing a similar job in the academy. Benitez himself revamped the academy just before he got the sack and he earned the praise of Kenny when the likes of Flanagan, Kelly, Robinson, Spearing all started to appear in the team (later on Sterling). Guardiola himself praised the Liverpool academy last year, stating it is one of the only academies that can challenge La Masia.

As to the question of a team working in a system, it can work if everyone aims for the same goal. Guardiola, Vilanova and practically his whole backroom staff once played for Barcelona so they know what it means. That's probably why we had better seasons when Phil Thompson was the 2nd man to Houllier and Sammy Lee to Rafa and Kenny.

Don't you also find it funny that John Barnes' interview about Barcelona comes recently. Coincidence or what?

What I'm afraid is, what if someone like Martinez comes in and wants total control and changes everything Rafa, Kenny, Segura and Borrell have worked for?

I like Martinez as a man but I don't know if it's too early for him to work here. In 3 years, I think his Wigan team have got beaten 8-0 twice and 7-1 even or something. Doesn't feel me much confidence. Not only that, he won only 4 times in 29 games this season before going on that awesome 7 wins in 9 games. To get beat 8-0 once is crazy but to concede so many, so many times, is amazing.

As for AvB, while he's probably better regarded than Martinez, my only issue, as I stated, is him not having been a professional player. I'm not saying it's a bad thing because good players dont necessarily make good managers but he doesn't probably does not know what a player in going through - unlike Pep/Rafa/Ferguson even have gone through in their playing days. He may deal with situations differently that may affect the team.

I think a Guardiola or a Benitez would be a good choice. One has similar vision and one has unfinished business. They both aren't old, in comparison to Kenny or Ferguson and they are not exactly inexperience in terms of managing a big club.

FSG got to becareful because if someone like Martinez doesn't bring the results, we could end up having another Roy situation and you'll hear RAFA! RAFA! RAFA!

But as I've said, whoever they bring in, I will support the man, as long as he doesn't sprout crap like Roy.

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On a side note, I heard Suso got two assists in Spain's u-19 2-1 win over Italy.
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on that score, i think martinez would understand the system thats in place in Liverpool & try to harness it. I for one thinks AVB is likely to rework, undo by having his own vision. Granted his success at porto but Portugal or other countries league are 1-2 steps behind what's been done in spain.

It is not by fluke spain's national team too benefited for the main clubs & their football philosophy. Between AVB or rodgers, and martinez, i'm going for the latter.

josep guardiola, as much as i wound jump a chance for him, I'm realist. It would be a masterful coup but let's not kid ourselves. Hoping for guardiola to pick liverpool over chelsea, is like hoping mourino dump madrid tomorrow or ferguson forgo his quest for 20th with Manu altogether and be charmed to manage liverpool. (barca = great team, RMadrid & Manu is in CL next year, Chelsea = good team, CL next year)

zero. absolutely zero. JG would sacrifice himself like that.

that's level 4 dream man.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 26 2012, 03:17 AM
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ May 26 2012, 03:50 AM)
try telling that to Guillem Balague. He's been trying to tell people that Pep said "MONTHS", not "MONTH". yet the media buzzes about Pep ready to take offer to any club after 1 month.

Although if you ask me, a former Barcelona manager in the form of Frank Ridjaard (can't spell his name right) hasn't been on fire ever since he was courted to some middle east club. (not sure what's the real picture, but then...)
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frank rijkaard, i remember with the 'K'

i dunno man. dutch fellas. they are great footballers, cruff (admire him like hell when i first laid my eyes on his football skill in the 70s). van basten, patrick kluivert..

I kinda reserved my opinion on all dutch after the side story of ruud gulllit, edgar davids, robben & THE "dutch" temperaments, the last world cup only doh.gif. I wonder if kuyt was adopted? wink.gif


i knew guardiola couldn't walk away long. while he said he needed a fresh challenge, no doubt, but deep inside, i think he knows Barcelona cannot pour in or match Real Madrid in $$$ building of players. I told my a friend of mine last year, I suspect barcelona had plateau as a team (they were ageing as a team) , after their CL win, when guardiola first hinted he might not take up the ano. ther offer at barcelona but did. I thought he should have left then on a high.

I don't know man. Like i said it would be almost a earth shattering, if guardiola humbles himself and say, forget all (big euro tournaments) glory, I'm interested in helping a wounded giant to claw back up. meteors don't rain often at merseyside these days, so wishes rarely become reality.



QUOTE(Adryan @ May 26 2012, 04:00 AM)
Gotta agree with you there.

But I guess only time will tell if Martinez (if he gets the job) is the right appointment. How will he cope with the pressure of a bigger club? Will the players respect him? Will he get the results FSG want instantly? That remains to be seen but if he does come, he'll have my support and maybe he will do a better job with better players (but are our players actually better than Wigan's  rolleyes.gif ). Also, with all due respect to him Roberto, the likes of Capello/Rafa/Pep would surely attract higher calibre players than Martinez.

Yeah, the chances of Pep Guardiola coming to Liverpool is probably as much as me sitting on the beach in Bahamas with a hot model girlfriend but perhaps he sees Liverpool (philosophy and history-wise) similar to Barca "Mes que un club". And it's weird he now says he is willing to make a u-turn if he's "seduced".

A dream for sure but hey, stranger things have happened!!
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I have my own opinion on why Dalglish was sacked. Not quite in tandem with the media or as most of you puts it, the sole failure of nicking a minimum of 4th. (I elaborated this a few pages behind)

We are mid table team now, we hate it, most of us don't want to to acknowledge it but we are. SO we are NOT gonna lure TOP players (yet). we never have been the club that pays as well as the top 4 (isnt it?). Look, back then rafa had fought to increase the pays of the core key players. (to match or closer to what other clubs are willing to offer).

hehe, my thoughts on guardiola is as above. yeah maybe dom cobb & his gang can incept the idea to him. whistling.gif

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