Again, the car manufacturer would be the best advisor in this case. We can assume the compression increases but again it will be the car manufacturer who will specify a suitable fuel that maximises the performance benefit by using a higher octane fuel. If Peugeot has only specified Ron95 as the required fuel, then using Ron 97 is a waste. Like i said earlier, any slight difference (if any) will be insignificant compared to the much higher cost of Ron 97 fuel. Is it worth paying RM66 extra per full tank for this 'slight difference'? Thats RM 1,584 extra per year assuming you fill 2 tanks per month. So instead of spending RM 2,736 per annum, ure gonna spend RM4,320.

The problem with most ppl is that they think the performance increase (if any) will be significant and most of the time its just quantified by word of mouth rather than any hard facts.

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Added on October 4, 2012, 8:34 amI said the same thing earlier. If its a barely noticeable difference, why spend 58% more money on it per full tank?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 4 2012, 08:41 AM

Any idea how he did such tests on the THP?

Btw, i did tests before between the Ron 95 and V Power Racing (not V Power 97) and there was a slight increase in acceleration. But with V POwer 97, there was no such noticeble difference. But V Power Racing is RM 3.10 right?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 4 2012, 09:50 AM

V Power Racing is only available in 37 stations in KL, Selangor, Negeri and Johor. In KL and Selangor, there are only 23 stations.

Well once u take into account the accuracy ratings for the data logger, the results are negligible as many technical articles have proven.

So guys, i think we can give the matter a rest now. Its clear that using Ron 97 in a car designed for Ron 95 is a waste for the amount of money ure paying for it. So dont just keep the info to yourself, spread it around so that more ppl will learn the truth just as i have.

Cheers!

Being a new owner doesnt mean u will know more about the car.

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Added on October 8, 2012, 5:52 pmOnly works when the woman knows how to converse maturedly and with facts. Besides that its just empty talk & tantrums. But applies to both sexes as well.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 8 2012, 05:55 PM

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This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 8 2012, 06:43 PM

Isnt the purpose of the forum to comment on other comments or to raise your own? Or maybe u need some lessons on how to behave in a forum? Either way, grow up yea. Showing yer tantrums on the thread doesnt reflect too well on yourself. And do remember to talk with facts yea. If u arent sure, do check things up. Dont blurt out nonsense and become a laughing stock.

Btw, how do u pick rubbish out? U mean choose the rubbish or throw the rubbish? Need English lessons?

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Added on October 8, 2012, 6:45 pmThis is not your own business and neither is this your thread. The person who started this thread is a big time Kia supporter. So u should be asking yorself why are u commenting on this thread before telling others to get out. But u didnt know that did u? Next time check yer facts before commenting. Btw, anybody is free to comment. The same way ure free to react. But if ure embarassed that some of your points were shot down, it doesnt matter. Everybody makes mistakes. We're all here to share and learn. Maybe in your case u have to learn faster to get up to speed with the more experienced forumers here eh?

Btw, how does a car owner not know that his car comes with a auto door lock? Now u know why u need others to teach you?

Grow up yea. Everything was quiet till u started this crap again. So if u want it to continue by all means go right ahead. Let's see where this leads to.

Either way both of you sound like a kid who just got a new toy after playing with mud before this. So excited trying it out without knowing much how to play with it. But its fine as everybody learns. But when somebody talks about the toy, the kid whines and throws a tantrum. Such kids. Well see how active you are in a couple of months from now when the initial hype has died down. But the comments will continue. Try to keep your comments technical yea?

Btw, do u know why the Peugeot Malaysia Facebook page only has less than 63K likes?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 8 2012, 06:53 PM

Did anybody read about the problems Kwan Hanzai is facing with his brand new Peugeot 508? Heard it was something to do with the Turbo? Quite scary and the best thing is that Nasim still can't find the cause of the problem or even repair it after almost 1 month.

Another guy complained his brand new 408 also kong by the roadside due to some problems with his power steering. Had to tow.

Hope Nasim resolves these issues fast or else it will become like cancer and ruin future sales.

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Sorry to hear. But u might wanna check outside spare part shops for this. Not really worth going to Peugeot and spending big bucks since warranty wont affect.

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Added on October 9, 2012, 7:52 amJust click on his name in FB and his post is there. But he didnt really put alot of details. But it would be good for all Peugeot owners to keep track since its a potential problem on all Peugeots. Plus it would give you an insight into how efficient Nasim's after sales service really is.

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Added on October 9, 2012, 7:58 amI think the problem wasnt the start stop button. If it was, they would have easily been able to bypass it and restart the car. It seems to be an engine problem or electronics. But if it were electronics, they would have been able to do a diagnostic on the ECU and identify the problem but since its been more than 10 days and they havent found the problem, it could mean something more serious.

Either way, it wasnt very professional of Peugeot Malaysia to delete the posts. It just makes ppl more suspicious as to why Nasim would wanna cover up in the first place.

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Added on October 9, 2012, 8:02 amI would say that for BMW, Merc or Audi but maybe not for Peugeot. Many of the current Peugeot lineup is catered for the younger generation.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 9 2012, 08:02 AM

Nope no confusion. It just so happen that those are also luxury brands but nevertheless not lacking in maturity either.

Maybe demand driven?

Yes. Its companies like Peugeot, Hyundai, Kia, Ford and even VW that are churning out better and more affordable cars compared to Toyota. But upstaging Toyota wont be easy especially when they have such a huge following and brand loyalty. But since both of us were ex Toyota owners, we can see how Toyota have stagnated over the past few years while other manufacturers have caught up in terms of tech.

Just get it done outside. Its pointless spending so much of your own money on this.

Yes well said. Many ppl dont realise that the small print is equally important. Many just buy a car blindly and assume that all cars offering 5 year warranties are the same. But many of these ppl have never made a warranty claim in their lives and maybe never even had a breakdown too.

Everybody talks so highly about Toyota for instance. But how many have made claims against Toyota? I have and i realised how damn difficult it is to get them to admit it was their fault and do the rectification work even though it was so obvious. I remember how i had a problem with my fuel pump and they even had the guts to tell me that since i changed my spark plugs 5,000km later so they can't warranty the pump. Thats Toyota. They will look and come up with ridiculous excuses just to avoid responsibility. That's why i can see a huge difference with Kia. You complain to Kia and they will change the part for you without much hassle. Ive even changed the front fog lamps on my car under warranty despite it being my fault to some extent. Wiper blades also changed despite this part being not warranted There was another user who complained about a rattle in the front power seat and Kia changed the entire power seat for him. Thats wht i call good after sales service and a real 5 year warranty. Not sure bout Peugeot but since they are under Naza i hope they are as efficient but from what that guy is experiencing with his 508, it doesnt seem the case.

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Added on October 10, 2012, 8:34 amIgnore but still responding to posts related to that person??


This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 10 2012, 08:34 AM

Every car will have its own set of problems. Its just whether its minor or major. Most major car manufacturers e.g BMW, Merc and Audi all have their fair share of problems. But problems can be settled. That's what the warranty is for. But what we dont want is a breakdown which is why we need to be extra cautious when we drive. We need to be more observant and do more daily checks on the car. Never drive blind. Yes we can't totally prevent breakdowns but at least we can reduce the chances of it happening.

But have confidence that uve bought a good car. No point having any regrets now. Drive safe and go with confidence. Enjoy the ride.

Cheers!

I think most car insurances come with some form of road side assist. But depending on your location, the response time can differ.

Interesting read:

http://paultan.org/2012/10/11/toyota-recal...-campaign-note/

When you keep saying 'so very smooth' which car are you comparing against? Rnans mentioned the gear is non adaptive and so did you. This would mean it changes at fixed ratios. If that's the case, how then can it be smooth? So which is which? When i test drove the 508, there was jsome jerking between the gears especially the lower ones. Of course it isnt that noticeable to a lay person, but its still evident. But while i feel its still marginally better than the Optima, its still no where as smooth as Ford's dual clutch or even VW's DSG. In fact, i think the 6 speeders in the Camry are smoother as well.

Hence, my question as to which car you were comparing against.

Well thats news to me. I always felt that the Ford's transmission was smoother. Maybe ure right since u drive both cars more frequently. Let me do some research and see. I could be wrong here then.