What twisted logic? He spoke perfect sense. Something which u cant seem to comprehend. Maybe u should start reading more and understanding even more before u start talking. Alot of what uve said dont really make sense.

He wasnt complaining about anything. Why should he complain about your car when he drives a car thats worth 180K?

If i may know, how many cars did you test drive at high speed before the 408T? And what car did u own before this?

Somehow u think that taking corners at 90kmph and being steady is all that great. Even a 2003 Vios could do that well enough with the right tyres. Try going around a small roundabout at 80kmph and see how that feels. Anybody can take corners but small roundabouts are a different ballgame.

If u wanna know about ride and handling, try a VW Passat. Then compare with your 408T. Ull get an idea.

U think u sound cool by saying that? I laugh at your ignorance and stupidity. Only a fool from the estate class will talk like this. If u want respect then earn it. I have responded to all your posts with respect. I dont see any reason why u should be hostile.

The only lists are available on JPJ's website. The others are provided by those on the AES thread who see the actual installation or have been flagged by the cameras themselves.

But i wont be posting things which im unsure about. I cant be like you. Sorry.

Bro, u really gotta read the posts carefully. Nobody said 90 degree corner la. That would be crazy. But yes ive tried 80kmph on a roundabout. Its 1 of the test routes for the Optima in Ipoh. The salesman actually tells you to push it hard. That was my first experience.

Spoken like a true kid. Do u even read posts? Did i say i took a Vios at 80kmph around a roudabout? Did i say i own a Passat? Such a show of immaturity.

I am free to post my comments. So dont tell me to shut up. U know nothing abour cars except to drive at 200kmph and claim it as something to be proud of. Such foolish pride. The Peugeot 408 is wasted on kampung folk like u i must say. Great car poor driver. Pity.

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Added on September 25, 2012, 4:45 pmNo worries la. Everyone is passionate about their cars. But forums like these are where u learn the good and not so good points about your car. Some may be true while some may not be. But its all in good fun. Cheers bro!

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 25 2012, 04:45 PM

In road terms, anything thats 90 degrees is not a corner. Its a junction. The roundabout i tried was about 1/10 the size of the Kg Pandan one. Thats why it was a good test drive. I think even Hyundai tests cars there at times. Quite deserted. Its in Ipoh.

Hows the 508 doing? When u doing your next trip on the NSE?

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 25 2012, 06:40 PM

I didnt say i was driving a Vios at that speed cuz i was driving another car during a test run at that speed. Now do u understand? Pity u cant comprehend simple logic. Start reading all the posts before posting your own. Will save u some embarassment for sure.

Yes best u remain silent. U wont reply because u know that ull get thrashed when u say something wrong. When ure ready to contribute in a mature manner then come back. Till then learn from the other more seasoned forummers. There are many others who know alot more about cars then even me. My knowledge is still limited at best. Btw, i didnt judge u based on any different standard. I judged you based on how u replied to the posts here. Typical spoilt kid mentality.

Btw, do keep in mind that there is no such thing as a perfect car. Even my own ride has its drawbacks. Pity u think the 408 is a perfect car. And another thing, i have more experience with Peugeots that u think. U only just got your first Peugeot so eat humble pie. So like i said, learn from the more experienced members. Leave your childish tantrums at home yea.

Cheers!

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 25 2012, 06:37 PM

408T is 1459 while the 408 2.0L is 1403kg?

Well ive managed to get 780km on 80L of Shell95. That was at 80% highway driving at around 170kmph. Havent tested 100% city. Never had a chance to try out other fuel since im on the Shellcard past 5 years.

Optima K5.

Yes if the 408 had a better rear end, it would surely boost sales a bit. But yes, its about time ppl started moving away from the Jap brands and start considering other makes which offer more tech at affordable prices.

Yes i agree. RM 156K (OTR with insurance) seems a bit steep for the 1.4 TSI Jetta. A price tag <150K would be more appropriate. I also find the overall design of the Jetta slightly better than the Passat. No offence to you bro.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 26 2012, 01:40 PM

Yes if i was split between these 2 i would surely choose the 508T. Better specs, spacious interior and as powerful engine.

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Added on September 26, 2012, 2:34 pmYes many car manufacturers are starting to offer this 5 year unlimited mileage warranty program. But some like Peugeot and VW are actually 3+2 years warranty. But still good all the same. Much better than Toyota's 3 yr or 100K warranty.

But was Hyundai the first to offer the 5 year warranty while Naza Kia the first to offer 5 years with unlimited mileage? Both full manufacturer's warranty.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Sep 26 2012, 02:34 PM

I thought the 408T has a slightly different engine which gives out 163Hp at 6,000 RPM?

Being bouncy doesnt always mean its an issue. Most European makes are tuned for handing rather than comfort. I tested the 508 many times when it was launched. Yes it doesnt give you the kind of comfort that a Camry would but road handling is much better. Same with the Optima K5. Lacking in comfort but quite good taking corners at high speed.

Isnt this just to push off 2012 stock?

Why would u bother using Ron97 for a car than can run on Ron95? A total waste.

Alot of that so called 'difference' is actually psychological. You may see some minor difference but no where worth the price ure paying for Ron 97 currently. The slightly better mileage (if any) will be easily obscured by the much higher cost of the Ron 97 fuel. Please be reminded that Ron 97 is not like the previous Shell V Power Racing. Although it sounds similar but the RON 97 currently used by Shell for instance is a slightly inferior version.

Using a higher octane fuel will not make much difference to internal carbon formation. Its actually a waste to use high octane fuel when your car only needs a lower grade. You wont get much difference in mileage or engine performance. The truth is that every grade of fuel has cleaning agents. Too much cleaning agents, some say, can actually damage your car.

Octane is a measure of how much the fuel can be compressed before it spontaneously ignites. Only engines with higher compression ratios take advantage of higher octane gas.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/autos/aut12.shtm

Another interesting article:

http://www.fraudguides.com/tips/june2.asp

So guys, please stop using Ron97 fuel. Its a complaete waste. If u really insist on using, then limit yourself to 1 full tank every 6 months just for a 'clean-up'. Again, i dont think its neccessary.

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Added on October 3, 2012, 4:19 pmRecommended by who? The people who run petrol stations in Malaysia? The people working for certain 'agencies' in Malaysia who would love to make more money from gullible Malaysians?

Do some reading up of your own. There are ample resources on the internet. Dont just have the herd mentality.

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Added on October 3, 2012, 4:24 pmThe K5 together with many other cars like BMW, Merc and Audi runs on Ron 95 as its recommended fuel. Many modern cars can even run on Ron 91. Many modern cars have low compression ratios thus enabling the use of low octane fuels. Its only high performance cars with high performance ratios which require higher octane fuel.



This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 3 2012, 04:24 PM

Its always based on someone's 'experience' which sadly is psychological most of the time or due to other factors.

This reminds me of a medical survey that was done a few years back in a Western country (not sure which). In that survey a group of ppl were given a latest generation Multivitamin pill once a day for a period of 3 months. At the end of the 3 month period, they were asked to take a survey with questions on various aspects of their health and body. 85% of the group members claimed improvements in various aspects of their physical wellbeing.

But the fact was, they were all given a 'dud' pill or empty pill filled with granulated glucose or something like that with no medicinal properties whatsoever.

The power of the mind eh?

Again that would depend on whats specified for the car. If Ron 95 is specified then Ron 97 wont have much effect on performance.