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post Jun 18 2013, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(kink_ass @ Jun 16 2013, 07:38 PM)
Yeah. Just found out the hard way haha. Can't, it is required of the project to build one based on the flyback topology
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Flyback topology is usually used for DC-to-DC converters, and not for DC-to-AC conversion. Also flyback topology is much more complex (not as simple as your circuit) as it normally requires feedback (usually via optoisolator and/or a tertiary winding on the transformer) plus the use of custom SMPS transformers. You can find this topology very common in AC-to-DC adapters, including those in power supply section of LCD/LED monitors and TVs... hmm.gif
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post Jul 2 2013, 12:13 AM

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Power electronics just aint my thing cry.gif

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post Jul 3 2013, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(kink_ass @ Jul 2 2013, 12:13 AM)
Power electronics just aint my thingĀ  cry.gif
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Example of typical flyback configuration using all-in-one PWM power I.C which has lower complexity (instead of PWM I.C + MOSFET). Source: Power Integrations: TOPSwitch-JX... wink.gif

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Below is an example of the recommended push-pull inverter configuration. Source: Electronic Circuits and Diagram-Electronics Projects and Design: 60W inverter using transistors... nod.gif

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All components used in that push-pull inverter are easily available (ie. common parts and does not use custom transformers). icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 10 2013, 01:39 AM

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Does anyone know where I can get customised high frequency transformers?

Or rather,

any shop that helps you wind a transformer according to your primary and secondary inductance specifications?

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post Jul 13 2013, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(kink_ass @ Jul 13 2013, 04:27 PM)
Does anyone know where I can get customised high frequency transformers?
You could try getting transformer cores from places like RS Components, Farnell/element14, Mouser and/or Digikey. Then make a custom transformer. Do note that the core material for high frequency transformers are rather specific type (not the standard soft iron core). Alternatively search in places like eBay, Utsource, Hong Kong Inventory, AliBaba, AliExpress, etc... hmm.gif

QUOTE(kink_ass @ Jul 13 2013, 04:27 PM)
Or rather,

any shop that helps you wind a transformer according to your primary and secondary inductance specifications?
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Try the back lane at Pasar Road. If not mistaken there's a shop specializing in transformers there. wink.gif

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post Jul 13 2013, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(lex @ Jul 13 2013, 09:19 PM)
You could try getting transformer cores from places like RS Components, Farnell/element14, Mouser and/or Digikey. Then make a custom transformer. Do note that the core material for high frequency transformers are rather specific type (not the standard soft iron core). Alternatively search in places like eBay, Utsource, Hong Kong Inventory, AliBaba, AliExpress, etc... hmm.gif

I believe high frequency transformers require at least ferrite cores to operate normally.. hmm.gif

Try the back lane at Pasar Road. If not mistaken there's a shop specializing in transformers there. wink.gif
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Which back lane? I went to a shop selling transformers before but mostly low frequency and bulky ones.

I would only get the transformer cores and frame if only I knew the proper technique of winding cry.gif
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post Jul 14 2013, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(kink_ass @ Jul 13 2013, 11:38 PM)
I believe high frequency transformers require at least ferrite cores to operate normally..
Not the normal ferrite cores in standard (low frequency) transformers, but specific grade and type of ferrite core (to avoid over-saturation) for high frequency SMPS operation. hmm.gif

QUOTE(kink_ass @ Jul 13 2013, 11:38 PM)
Which back lane? I went to a shop selling transformers before but mostly low frequency and bulky ones.
Not sure which shop you've went to, or if its the shop I've mentioned. For your information, the shop is not facing the main road and sells mostly transformers... wink.gif

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I would only get the transformer cores and frame if only I knew the proper technique of winding  cry.gif
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As for manually winding the transformer, mostly trial and error. The wire gauges (ie. AWG) also for primary and secondary coils have to be considered also... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 14 2013, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(lex @ Jul 14 2013, 12:01 AM)
Not the normal ferrite cores in standard (low frequency) transformers, but specific grade and type of ferrite core (to avoid over-saturation) for high frequency SMPS operation. hmm.gif

Not sure which shop you've went to, or if its the shop I've mentioned. For your information, the shop is not facing the main road and sells mostly transformers... wink.gif

As for manually winding the transformer, mostly trial and error. The wire gauges (ie. AWG) also for primary and secondary coils have to be considered also... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hmm, went to the one that is on the same row as NIXIE and ONLINE but a few blocks up closer to the main road.

By, any chance are you good at winding? tongue.gif
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post Jul 17 2013, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(kink_ass @ Jul 14 2013, 12:36 AM)
Hmm, went to the one that is on the same row as NIXIE and ONLINE but a few blocks up closer to the main road.
Nopes, its nowhere on the main road. As I've mentioned earlier, the shop is not facing the main road (in other words not on the main road). wink.gif

QUOTE(kink_ass @ Jul 14 2013, 12:36 AM)
By, any chance are you good at winding?  tongue.gif
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I don't usually wind transformers. Amature at best... tongue.gif

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Hello everyone.
how do you guys deal with switch debouncing.
I always have problems in my circuit where a single press read as multiple plresses.

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post Jul 23 2013, 12:24 PM

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anyone playing with PLC/PIC?
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Quite rare here in Malaysia, unless you come across those that have been programming industrial automation machines, remote control devices, alarm systems, tracking devices, etc.. wink.gif

QUOTE(TOROBO @ Jul 23 2013, 09:26 AM)
Hello everyone.
how do you guys deal with switch debouncing.
I always have problems in my circuit where a single press read as multiple plresses.
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There are plenty of tutorials on the web on how to debnouce switches (the most common is using resistor and capacitor in combination with schmitt trigger, or using a pair of NAND gates). What is the switch type and/or circuit? Is it a normally open SPST (push to make), normally closed SPST (push to break), or non-latching SPDT switch? Is it using pull-up or pull down? unsure.gif

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QUOTE(lex @ Jul 23 2013, 12:24 PM)
Quite rare here in Malaysia, unless you come across those that have been programming industrial automation machines, remote control devices, alarm systems, tracking devices, etc..  wink.gif

There are plenty of tutorials on the web on how to debnouce switches (the most common is using resistor and capacitor in combination with schmitt trigger, or using a pair of NAND gates). What is the switch type and/or circuit? Is it a normally open SPST (push to make), normally closed SPST (push to break), or non-latching SPDT switch? Is it using pull-up or pull down? unsure.gif
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the one I made for my mini project this year uses push to make switch with pull down resistor.
one push and the number goes fast as hell. laugh.gif
I am thinking of using the same type of switch on a small project that I am going to make soon.
I don't want to have bouncing switch problem again laugh.gif
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post Jul 24 2013, 03:27 AM

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QUOTE(TOROBO @ Jul 23 2013, 02:09 PM)
the one I made for my mini project this year uses push to make switch with pull down resistor.
one push and the number goes fast as hell.  laugh.gif
I am thinking of using the same type of switch on a small project that I am going to make soon.
I don't want to have bouncing switch problem again  laugh.gif
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Simplest solution is to add a capacitor in parallel to the pull down resistor. The moment you press, the capacitor charges up quickly thus maintains the voltage for a while (thus spurious impulses will be smoothed out), until the pull down resistor discharges it at a slower rate. The values of the capacitor and pull down resistor will depends on your requirements (e.g. the minimum pulse time when the switch is pushed temporarily). hmm.gif

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QUOTE(lex @ Jul 24 2013, 03:27 AM)
Simplest solution is to add a capacitor in parallel to the pull down resistor. The moment you press, the capacitor charges up quickly thus maintains the voltage for a while (thus spurious impulses will be smoothed out), until the pull down resistor discharges it at a slower rate. The values of the capacitor and pull down resistor will depends on your requirements (e.g. the minimum pulse time when the switch is pushed temporarily). hmm.gif
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could there be a calculation for the capacitor and resistor values? hmm.gif
It won't be long,it is just a finger jab on the switch to turn things on laugh.gif
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QUOTE(TOROBO @ Jul 24 2013, 03:41 AM)
could there be a calculation for the capacitor and resistor values?  hmm.gif
It won't be long,it is just a finger jab on the switch to turn things on  laugh.gif
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You can find lots of tutorial on capacitor discharge calculations on the web. Usually the usual V=Vo*e^(-t/(R*C)) wink.gif

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QUOTE(lex @ Jul 24 2013, 04:35 AM)
You can find lots of tutorial on capacitor discharge calculations on the web. Usually the usual V=Vo*e^(-t/(R*C))  wink.gif
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hey guys, need to ask one question...
i have an arduino board and a rfid module on hand but it comes with a 12 pin interface instead of the typical 4 pin interface. the manufacturer provided me this pin map info.

1 - VCC (3.8 ~ 4.2V, typ 4V)
2 - VCC (3.8 ~ 4.2V, typ 4V)
3 - GND
4 - TXD (IDRO900MA ->HOST)
5 - RXD (IDRO900MA <- HOST)
6 - Not Used
7 - Not Used
8 - Not Used
9 - Not Used
10 - Not Used
11 - GND
12 - RESET (It is necessary for Firmware update)f the typical 4 pin UART interface.

would be safe or possible for me to connect 2 VCC from the arduino board to the module?? i just started on arduino so i am not sure on a lot of things.. icon_question.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Jul 25 2013, 03:20 PM)
hey guys, need to ask one question...
i have an arduino board and a rfid module on hand but it comes with a 12 pin interface instead of the typical 4 pin interface. the manufacturer provided me this pin map info.

1 - VCC (3.8 ~ 4.2V, typ 4V)
2 - VCC (3.8 ~ 4.2V, typ 4V)

3 - GND
4 - TXD (IDRO900MA ->HOST)
5 - RXD (IDRO900MA <-  HOST)
6 - Not Used
7 - Not Used
8 - Not Used
9 - Not Used
10 - Not Used
11 - GND
12 - RESET (It is necessary for Firmware update)f the typical 4 pin UART interface.

would be safe or possible for me to connect 2 VCC from the arduino board to the module?? i just started on arduino so i am not sure on a lot of things.. icon_question.gif
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You can use a multimeter to check whether those 2 pins (ie. pin 1+2) on the board are shorted. Most likely they are power supply rails. Anyway, is this board is running on 5V power supply? 3.8V to 4.2V looks kinda low... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lex @ Jul 26 2013, 03:47 PM)
You can use a multimeter to check whether those 2 pins (ie. pin 1+2) on the board are shorted. Most likely they are power supply rails. Anyway, is this board is running on 5V power supply? 3.8V to 4.2V looks kinda low... hmm.gif
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it seems that they are power rails as there is no power supply input provided...
i am actually looking at connecting pin 1 and 2 to 2 separate VCCs that are available to me through a shield..
according to the manufacturer, they said that the "Reader Module can operate in 5 voltage. But, We recommend you to use 4 voltage."
so it seems it might work..
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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Jul 26 2013, 04:42 PM)
it seems that they are power rails as there is no power supply input provided...
i am actually looking at connecting pin 1 and 2 to 2 separate VCCs that are available to me through a shield..
Still, check the pins on the board. If they are connected together then using two separate power rails may be not be a good idea. If one rail is slightly higher than the other rail, then there will be current flowing from the higher potential to the lower potential rail. hmm.gif

QUOTE(brian12988 @ Jul 26 2013, 04:42 PM)
according to the manufacturer, they said that the "Reader Module can operate in 5 voltage. But, We recommend you to use 4 voltage."
so it seems it might work..
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Using two silicon diodes in series would reduce that 5V down to around 4V or less (due to the diodes forward voltage drop). wink.gif


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