Hi guys I'd like to understand more about superbikes.
I've only rode the normals bikes like Honda exe and older bikes before. Never tried superbike but they seem very nice.
So I have some questions.

1. Is riding a superbike any difference from normal bike? Normal bike only use one leg change gear to 1234.superbike the same?

2. Is there any superbike that can max speed faster than a car? I know car can max near 200 km/h but bikes? My families Honda exe max only 90-95. (just curious, I dun have balls go 200 km/h anyways)

3. What bikes/brands are like Ferrari lambos in the bike world? I only heard of ducatti. Any particular model is most powerful or cool?

4. How much is the cheapest superbikes?(ignore second hand ones ) ducati above 100 k I think

5. Normal motorcycle license can ride superbike or we need get different license?

Thanks

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1. Is riding a superbike any difference from normal bike? Normal bike only use one leg change gear to 1234.superbike the same?
different. refer above #2

2. Is there any superbike that can max speed faster than a car? I know car can max near 200 km/h but bikes? My families Honda exe max only 90-95. (just curious, I dun have balls go 200 km/h anyways)
r u sure ? 200km/h ? for car ?
600cc bikes can do that. 1000cc, u imagine.

3. What bikes/brands are like Ferrari lambos in the bike world? I only heard of ducatti. Any particular model is most powerful or cool?
depends on what u want. any bike will be nice if u like it. I like mine

4. How much is the cheapest superbikes?(ignore second hand ones ) ducati above 100 k I think
u mau berapa cc punya ? got B full license ? or just want a beginner larger bike ?

5. Normal motorcycle license can ride superbike or we need get different license?
depends on CC ~ 100cc, 250cc, 500cc, 1000cc and above.

Sun1989-oh cuz I heard many ppl in /k/ say they car can easily go 200 so I though is normal. So what bike u have? Any recommendation or beginners? Or just stick with Honda exe Lolz

Sochaiapk-I see u mention clutch, reminds me of how bad I am with even manual cars
U say many superbikes can go Ferrari speed O.o

What is the faster speed u guys went before? Mind to share?
I go fastest 140 km/h on my Toyota mpv and already shaking Liao

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Added on May 1, 2012, 8:01 pmOh yeah and is there any bike represents something like the bugatti veyron in superbike world? I'm just very curious and interested to know.

This post has been edited by Barack Obama: May 1 2012, 08:02 PM

im riding cbr 250r. 1month plus already owning it.
if u r riding ex5, den go for 250cc bikes. see ur budget. if u r tall n big size, go for versys. hehe.
i not enough budget, so go for cbr 250r abs xD rm23k+

140kmh ... i ride tat on my bike it is slow ... but sufficient. city ride mostly. big bike hard to ride in city, especially during jam ... nid very high skill. my cbr jz okay.

How fast can ur CBr 250r go? Ever tried max speed? Hehe 23 k sounds.....within reach
I am actually big and tall so what's versys?

This post has been edited by Barack Obama: May 1 2012, 08:18 PM

hi there

*sigh*
First, try to read up on what is a "super bike." The bikes you see on the road are not superbikes.

1. sportsbikes in general use the 1 N 2 3 4 5 6 configuration while using the clutch. Bike clutches are not like cars. Very simple to use. Some pros don't even need to use the clutch.

2. your question is too general. Of course a sports bike can go much faster than a Kancil or Myvi.
Fastest bikes in the world (not modified) can reach around 320- 350kmph) The problem with motorcycles is that they are as aerodynamic as a brick. So for motorbikes, top speed is not important at all.

3. Ferrari? Lambo? Hmmm Ducati 1198 is extremely powerful. BMW S1000RR is also really fast. Suzuki Hayabusa 1300, Kawasaki ZX14, are some of the fastest bikes around. Again, for motorcycles, high speed shouldn't really be important. What for you ride a bike in just straight lines?

4. Cheapest sports bikes, should be the Kawasaki ZX10R and Aprilla. Around 80k. Yamaha R1 for 90k+. Ducati 140+. MV Agusta. Dream on.


5. Need B Full licence.

Junbecks- wow I didn't know sportbike and superbike is different. Non modified bikes can go 320-350 km/h?! Then that means if one little rock on the road and driver go to heaven le @.@
I've seen the ducatti 1198 pictures b4,very beautiful bike. Can buy in msia?

Large displacement sport bikes are generally referred to as superbikes or in similar category in malaysia. No thanks to that, our government impose high taxes on them. making a proper bike with decent power and brakes expensive to own and maintain, yes imported parts are taxed too.

sports bike like er6n are popular due to local assembly. much like cars, lower taxes. yet it cost in the upper 30k region. a slightly different variant, the versys is in the 40k region. top speed in the range of 180km/h if i'm right.

superbikes usually have displacement close to 1000cc, then like supercars. they have their sports category and touring and classic.

Riding one requires skill and experience. Big engine comes with heavy weight and extreme power. ex5 is more like a bicycle to people who rides superbikes
steering is partially done with shifting body weight. takes off like a jet plane on the runway and stops as if you dropped a ship's anchor down the road.

Once you've rode one, you'll understand why people love riding their machines on twisty roads.

other than ducatis,

you have the very expensive MV Agusta F4 bikes, the awesome Aprilia RSV4, and other italian bikes. there are some other european bikes (e.g. BMW S1000RR), but pricewise, they are nowhere near a ferrari or a lambo

busa, R1, ZZR14 and the likes are japanese supercar counterparts - just like what a nissan gt-r or a honda nsx are

but for a rm100+k, u can get a bike that is on par with supercar performance (top speed 300+ mph, 0-100 in less than 3s)

with RM500k u can get a desmosedici

but noobies like us should stay away from litre bike. try a beginner friendly er6-f if you want. it's relatively affordable, easy to maintain and easy to ride

This post has been edited by lucifah: May 1 2012, 09:09 PM

Radioactive-seems like govt sucking a lot of money from bikes and cars eh. Hopefully one day I get to try out the feeling of those bikes

Lucifah-I just checked the Japanese bikes, but I prefer the ducatis design. But 0-100 in less than 3 sec is fast mang. 500k for a bike is crazyyy..but the name desmosedici sounds very European and devilish. Lemme go google this..

cheapest ducati is the monster 795. thai assembled. 60+k.

diavel is 130+k range

streetfighter starts at 99k

the sexy 1199 starts at 160k

all you can get from marion caunter's hubbie.

ill be honest, this stumped my brain for a moment w

usually ppl dont look at acceleration time for bikes since majority is lot faster than a car. even kawa ninja 150 can hit 0-100kmh around 6sec. thats faster than a golf gti.
btw, when talk abt superbikes, usually it depends on the riding position..bikes like kawa zzr(or gtr) series, yamaha FJ1300, or some bmw bikes can be considered as sports tourer or grand tourer bike.

Same here @-@
But the 1198 or 1199 is a true beauty

yeah makes sense, even a normal Honda exe bike USUALLY go faster than cars after red light, unless the car drivers step to the full in first sec.

Oh and how is the test for 1000cc bike license gonna be like? Definitely should be different for normal bike license rite?

B2: up to 250cc (this is the normal license u alwasy see around)

B1: 250 - 499cc (this one i think no more already since not many bikes within this engine cap range)

B: 500cc and above (this is also called B-FULL)

Oh so the B full how do they test u I mean.
I remember the B2 license test is just balancing on bike, using left right hand to signal and all that...but the B full test should be different and harder no?

same..but different bike. some use virago..some use er6.

B2 and B-full test same one, only 2 difference

B / B2 exam:

1. 1 1/2 roundabout turn
2. 7-second bridge run
3. cones
4. emergency brakes
6. traffic stop (3 time wave like a girl then stop)

the differences:

5. series of bumps rides

and you have to use a big >500cc bike to do all that w/o falling or your feet touching down (except during emergency braking)

Oh i see

6. traffic stop (3 time wave like a girl then stop)

This is the most embarrassing part of motorcycle test ....
So for someone who knows how to ride a normal bike should be easy to ride superbike rite? Only have to learn to use clutch and balance heavier bike I assume.
Is there any place to learn/practice for beginners? Like perhaps some race tracks? Or should we practice with mat rempits

yes and no

the bike weight difference is very big. a normal kapcai is about 100kg, while a typical bike would weigh at least 180 (a cheaper er6 will weigh at 220, and an expensive superbike can be as light as 150kg)

u definitely can't afford a handle lock on a big bike. the turning radius is very small, so you can't maneuvre around like a kapcai would

the acceleration is very tempting, and so sudden. one twist of a throttle what you may use on a kapcai would send you flying on a superbike

learning the clutch is the easy part if you have experience driving a manual car. just make sure you have strong left fingers.

This post has been edited by lucifah: May 2 2012, 08:26 AM

Wah one twist of throttle can fly Liao, sounds exciting.
I've seen videos of ppl do wheelie, looks dangerous but fun also.
Everytime see ppl ride superbike sure wear jacket one, does it really help if we accident and fall?
And also is superbikes easy target for thieves? I heard thieves can unlock normal bike in 10-20 secs....if 100k bike stolen then

with armored leather jacket and proper sliding techniques, you can save some bones, and bruises, but there's no guarantee

with normal riding jacket, lightly armored one, you can perhaps save some deep scratches, but if you fvked up pretty well, you may see some bones broken


any bikes can be easily stolen. that's why you have disc locks. put many2 sure take more time for thieves to curi

some high end bikes come with immobilisers built in - you can't start the bike without the original key

and most ppl dunno how to ride a bike. most thieves would do the stupid noob thing and end up revving too much and fall down, crashing your expensive bike.

Bones? That's some scary stuff man, lemme have a second though haha
But immobilizers sound useful.
Is it a must to get b2 license then only apply b full or can straight take b full?

u can take B full directly, but if you have no prior riding experience, the learnign curve will be a bit steep


ride carefully, know your limit, observe traffic rules & respect your bike

Thanks for the advice
U got a bike of ur own? Mind share ur experience?

had a er6-n for less than two months

been riding a scooter for the past 4 years

had my driving license for 14 years


best advice?

alwasy bring a rain jacket or you may end up standing in a wooden shack by the roadside, while haning your head in shame, watching all the cars that you overtook at 130km/h passed by you

guys i dunno where else wanna ask but here goes..

does anyone of u's know where i can gt a 2nd hand rxz or tzm around 2k...

or can direct me to the area tq

try malaysianbikers.com.my - you have to register first to be able to access the sales thread

What happened to HAD for less than 2 months?
Not bad the yellow bike.
Ya lo I've seen many times motorcyclist hide under bridge and during rain...couldn't go nowhere.
But where to put rain jacket wor unless like my families bike have a box behind(looks ugly though)
I tried before ride bike during rain at 80 kmph, hits the skin damn pain...

wrong verb used. still has.

the pic taken this morning during a solo 150km ride.

Oh nice, the yellow makes it more sportier. How much u bought the bike for?
It's my dream to make my future car or bike matte black...dunno if suitable but sure got a bit batman feel haha

38k otr. a bit expensive, but hey, i'm on the other side of malaysia

be like me

just go and buy the damn bike. you can learn to ride it later and get your license the next month.

Like that also can? Buy bike first then license?hmm
But if buy new bike then learn, chances are gonna damage the new bike....when I first learned on normal bike(my moms) I fell a few times and damaged the bike...there were many scratches to the paint.
Right now is I kept looking at ur bike picture and it's very tempting me to get one Lol

Curious but the ducati 1198 only one seat rite? Cannot pick up chicks?

she's a sweetie.

btw do you need to retake undang if you go for b license after having my car license (D? lol) for over uhh.... 8 years or more? lol

with the 1198, u don't pick chicks. they jump at you willingly


she's nearly 2 months old and is reaching the magical 1,000 miles (1,600km) mark soon to unleash the full horsepower

no need to retake table test. but you have to sit throguh 1 day of boring lecture to renew your L license first.

sure no need undang? (i remembered eletronic wo, not table test?)

if yes i go get my B full asap since the longer i wait, the more expensive it is to friggin get my license/bike course etc >_<

yes, no need to retake test.

just have to sit through the boring 1-day mandatory lecture b4 they can issue u a L license

then after 1 month u can take jpj test

Great, time to check out the nearest bike school for b full

I dont know how much money you have, LOL, but if you are at the age you can afford a 1198, and still picking up young chicks, something is not right.
just kidding k.


If having a pillion is important, 1098 is avaiable. Streetfighter looks good too.

hi lucifah,

i'm pretty much interested in er6n
but how about the bike's loan? izzit similar with car hire purchase?with bank or the shop?

and the new ducati monster? can't apply loan from bank?

please share
thanks

Anyone knows what's the model for our PDRM's policebike ? Banyak cantik leh

sorry. can't help you with the bank loan details since i pay my bike in just 1 installment, i.e. cash

but from what i gathered from friends:

1. use personal loan, bank rakyat offers loans @ 4% p.a. advantage is the green card is in your name. downside is your loan amount can be very limited.

2. hire purchase - very few banks will offer hp for motorbikes, and their rates vary. last i heard is public bank @ 4.7 - 4.8% interest. maybank is at 6%. Aeon is worse, at almost 10%. only advantage is you can loan any amount you want, but financing margin is only 70% - meaning you have to pay 30% d/p

application is like normal - payslips, employment letter, tax return, etc etc etc.


hope that helps

Nice thread, can I take over/tumpang? I have zero experience in riding a bike and am currently targeting the Ducati Monster 795, is it suitable for newbie, provided that I'll promise myself to know my own limits ? Besides, how much is the road tax & insurance for this bike?

Police uses 2 new bike models, apart from the old CBX 750....

Honda CBX 750 Police bike



Honda VFR 800 police bike




Honda ST 1300 Police bike



This post has been edited by masz94: Jul 6 2012, 05:17 PM

This is the models that is available for public.... all V4 engine...

VFR 800




The most popular of all.... VFR 800 VTEC




The most expensive.... ST 1300

bikes for beginners

any bikes more than 750cc can be consider as 'superbike' .. below than that its just a 'sportbike' ..

as for beginner ..no need to think about those super bikes ..get used with a small sportbike range 150 - 250 cc..

trust me ..if you never ride a super bike before ..90% chance you might loose the bike control ... like what happen to my mom friends son ... the parents present their son with a superbike (not sure how many cc) ... he never ride a big bike before ..first time he ride the bike ..straight away accident and die ... a friend of a friend of mine .. only enjoy 2 days with his new CBR1000RR aka Rabbit ... then accident ..but lucky he is safe ..just broke the hand only.. all these because they are not used with the power produce from the bike ..

so...start with small bike first ..then upgrade to bigger bike slowly as you getting used to it..

that cost u a bomb to repair and service it .....

if i'm not mistaken , small - can do smaller turning radius while big - need bigger space for turning radius ...

maybe i'm wrong ...

and alot first timer mistake, they dare to accelerate (full throttle on 1 n 2 gear is sucide act), but when reach corner they slow down (thought slow can take corner easier) without keeping momentum, it become over steer and kaboom ......

Maintainance isn't the biggest issue..the loan is..because banks don't give loans on bikes

road tax in sarawak is bloody cheap, but you get lowya roads here

rm40 for my 650cc

insurance? depends on the sum insured. mine, fully value insured with 1st party, all rider, around rm900+



yes, some banks do give hire purchase loans on motorbikes, but the interest is very high (around 6%) and financing margin is only 70% (meaning you have to pay 30% DP)

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Added on July 6, 2012, 11:42 pmalhtough you can buy the same models as the police, u can't get exactly the same

the police bikes from honda are specially designed for police use, with integrated equipment - not an add on or aftermarket upgrade. it was factory fitted - the siren, intercom, hazard, and lots more controls

This post has been edited by lucifah: Jul 6 2012, 11:42 PM

Wow so that means the parents present send their son to heaven...sad to hear man. The parents must be very sad and regret buying the bike...
Now I scared ride big bikes after hearing this...but I always wanted to learn how to wheelie on a big bike

This post has been edited by Barack Obama: Jul 7 2012, 01:58 AM

Ar? Is Italian, . . . . Tyre is standard, wear n tare part that become Ur monthly liability if u ride it on daily basic

Can i purchase a bike prior to having my bike license? ie with loan from bank..

that is if u live in a perfect world

in our reality, bikes tend to fall down. accidents tend to happen. and that's where it hurts you the most financially, should you survive any mishaps w.o injuries

a simple bike fall would cause fairings to breaks, turn signals, side mirrors, handle bars - these small things cost a lot of money, and time to order, especially if it's an european bike

don't forget to factor in the periodical maintenance and time needed to look after your bike - oiling your chain every 500km, changing the motor oil and filter every 3 - 6k km, and such.

and your protective gears. good helmets cost 800 - 1,000+. u don't want to be wearing el cheapo malaysia, thailand or china made helmet with your duc monster, right? also important are gloves, costint you 100 - 200+, which will save your skin if you fall. riding boots are especially important. cost about 500+ for a good one. jackets are more personal. either you get full leather (500+) or a armored mesh jacket (300+ for grade a replica, 700+ for original)

all these are most probably accident-once-only. after and accident, you have to replace almost all your riding gears to to damages or torn as it dragged across the tarmac, protecint your skin bones.

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Added on July 7, 2012, 11:27 amsure can. only problem is your insurance might be a bit more since you don;t have the proper riding license, so you need to include all rider insurance.

This post has been edited by lucifah: Jul 7 2012, 11:27 AM

Your comment alerts me to ride safe, if i ever start to ride..but some people start with 500cc> bike and have no problems too..it depends on individual

Ok then, i guess the salesman can give me more accurate information for semenanjung..30% DP should be ok, but the balance will need to loan as i dun wish to dump all money in that freaking bike perhaps i should start looking at er-6n or 6f? May I know what are the major differences between two of them? Kawasaki is more economical, but the setback is it's exhaust tone

Great info, guess i'd have to prepare another 10k standby just for maintenance & gears

what u means exhaust tone ?? if u want, u can change exhoaust system or u means engine sound ? 2 pinton Vs 4 piston Vs 2 stroke Vs 4 stoke is totally different ...

Sorry, i mean engine sound..i like the monster mainly because of its desmodromic's sound..

hehehhehe that is costly lo ...

That's why anyway..i'm open to other good recommendations as well..checking er-6n & 6f..have to research more as i'm still new to bikes

try smaller bike first, due to unforeseen circumstances always try at small, cause that involve ur personal life
go for kapchai for few month then decide later la .....

I m getting my er6 in these few days. They re registering for me.

I used to ride a Yamaha sports 100cc bike 15 yrs ago. I know er6 if a totally different bike but I don't bother starting with kapchai... As long as I don't do silly stuff or start doing "top speed" I think I ll do just fine.

I got myself a local made helmet "grayfosh"... Gonna get a pair of glove n jacket pretty soon. As for boots.... Well... Not so sure bout the boots. Unless I m
Into touring.... So it is still a KIV for me.

Er6 is my beginner s bike... A test bike... I m looking at kilo bike hehee... Pray for me

it's 2-cylinder versus 4-cylinder

2 cylinder engines (or twins) sound like a mesin jahit,

4-cylinder engine has very sweet engine tone

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Added on July 7, 2012, 10:52 pm6n - naked

6f - with fairing

mechanically, both are the same

except one has full fairing and another has bikini fairing

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Added on July 7, 2012, 10:54 pmliter bike, bro... litre

1 litre = 1,000 cc

1 kilo = 1,000 g

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Added on July 7, 2012, 10:56 pmpeople claim the naza blade 650r (rebadged hyosung 650) has almost similar exhaust tone with duc's desmo

u can try to have a go with the blade650r, much cheaper than even the entry level er6

This post has been edited by lucifah: Jul 7 2012, 10:56 PM

Naked should look sexier i guess? Since it's wearing a 'bikini' ...anyway, er6 has how many cylinders?

er6 got aeroplane sound?
the exhaust

it's a parallel twin, a two cylinder

no. it has mesih jahit noise

change your sock exhaust and you may get decent engine noise

but a 7 - 8,000 rpm, even stock exhaust sounds awesome

Hahaha...I know....

who ever hates the kapchai sound of er6s, take XJ6 instead. Its a 4 cylinder bike. I think the price is around RM40K or so brand new.

replace the stock exhaust system with Leo Vince GP Pro (RM4K), it will sound beast.


tho, if you can count, RM48K could get you a 2008 Z750 Kawi with much sexier look.

oh my god.. I LOVE YOU Z750!!!

damn u naked bikes. You are killing mee!!

if u say z750 is sexeeh, apparently, u haven't seen the streetfighter s



This post has been edited by lucifah: Jul 8 2012, 08:08 PM

daaamn nice

me sakit pingang riding 250r everyday thinking of upgrading Xj6 Diversion after got full license

the XJ6 Naked is very nice looking. dunno why HLY dun wanna bring it in. afraid of kawa er6-n competition kot...



sadly, we only have the diversion, which is neither here nor there.

it's like wearing a 1-piece bikini, which is not sexy, nor do it cover up all of it.

me like diversion summore but if there is full faired one would be awesome choice

same like Er6f before this they just bought in naked ver now they have both
too bad both of them just parallel twin not inline 4 screamer

twin cylinder - higher torque at lower rpm, lower maintenance cost

that's the main advantage

of course like most ppl say, at > 120km/h, all you hear is wind noise...

then u must wear pretty bad helmet .....

I have personally tried the Monster and its easy to handle hence they term is a good beginners bike. I am aiming to get one soon as well. which bank give the best loan rate for bikes now? i was told RHB with 4% is the best bet now..

If I already have CDL D Class license and after getting a B-Full, AKA "tambah kelas", will the B-full license be 'P' license and require 'P' sticker while riding? I see most big bikes riding on the normal car lanes instead of designated motor lanes, is it right for them to do so? I mean legally, according to Malaysian law? Besides, most big bikes are speeding like nobody's business on the highway as well as beating the traffic lights occasionally (I knew exceeding the max speed limit of 110km/h is definitely wrong in this case ), do they always get away from speed traps/summons/compounds?

Good question bro..i'd like to an answer for that too

Motorcycles above 250cc are not allowed on motorcycle lanes.

But nobody seems to know the exact law, so you might still get stopped by some enforcers.

nope they kena summon too ...... superbike no longer that premium compare to last time

the answer is no. You dont need 'P' sticker on you superbike.

pardon me, Im going to fap.

now where's my tissue box..


was that a 795 you tested?

its assembled in Thailand. Its actually a 796 engine on a 696 chassis. Lower seat pitch and higher handle bar compared to 796. But narrower rims and tyres for 795. Ducati says, its for Asian market.


but in the states, a 696 is priced slightly higher than ER6 but yet, you get nothing. Just a brand, Ducati. That's what a Ducati owner said. He owned er6n, zx6r before getting a 999 and 749.




some will argue with me, why Im posting that video. Its in the states, and the price are cheaper. But hey, those bikes are imported as well as we are over here. Compare the price of the er6 and 696 in the states with what we have over here in Malaysia. A Ducati will always be a Ducati. Expensive.

in one of his videos, he was quoted for 1k usd for valve adjustment job for a Ducati. Every 6k miles I think?

Tho the bike is cheap, but will you afford to maintain it?

Ive browsed mudah.my and I do see few 795 for sale. And they are only months old. I wonder what makes the owner to sell them off.

maintance lo ....... hehehhe it really cost bomb for monthly a,b,c,d ....

Well, everyone has their own preference. To me, the monster is a great bike and maintenance is not too much of an issue for me. I have no issues with the bike ergonomics also as I think its quite well suited for my built, just right actually.

Again, its all down to individual preference and of course time will tell for the owners decision to upgrade or not.

superbike for beginners....hmmm

get used to it 1st by ride 250cc. this should gain experience in handling the bike well. after 1 year or so, you feel hunger of speed, so upgrade to 600cc above but required b full license. make and model, the choice is yours. ask around bikers in their forums

just my opinion as sbk riders

In oversea,US and Aus mostly charge the by hour for service unlike us.
Dats why can fetch up to 1k for valve clearance bcoz those were time consuming,

For monster,service just like normal bike,change and filter only.major services at 24k interval..

Why a lot monster sold already?well most owner upgrading to more powerful streetfighter or other bike.same case happen back then with er6

i dunno a nolan n85 is a pretty bad helmet...

wind noise is always there when you go above 120 - 140

dun belive? ask any taiko here

not wearing earplugs is suicidal as the wind noise is very very deafening

i never use earplug on road bike, even i create personal top speed record .....
ear plug for 120 - 140 km ??? i don't understand ....