other than ducatis,

you have the very expensive MV Agusta F4 bikes, the awesome Aprilia RSV4, and other italian bikes. there are some other european bikes (e.g. BMW S1000RR), but pricewise, they are nowhere near a ferrari or a lambo

busa, R1, ZZR14 and the likes are japanese supercar counterparts - just like what a nissan gt-r or a honda nsx are

but for a rm100+k, u can get a bike that is on par with supercar performance (top speed 300+ mph, 0-100 in less than 3s)

with RM500k u can get a desmosedici

but noobies like us should stay away from litre bike. try a beginner friendly er6-f if you want. it's relatively affordable, easy to maintain and easy to ride

This post has been edited by lucifah: May 1 2012, 09:09 PM

cheapest ducati is the monster 795. thai assembled. 60+k.

diavel is 130+k range

streetfighter starts at 99k

the sexy 1199 starts at 160k

all you can get from marion caunter's hubbie.

B2: up to 250cc (this is the normal license u alwasy see around)

B1: 250 - 499cc (this one i think no more already since not many bikes within this engine cap range)

B: 500cc and above (this is also called B-FULL)

B2 and B-full test same one, only 2 difference

B / B2 exam:

1. 1 1/2 roundabout turn
2. 7-second bridge run
3. cones
4. emergency brakes
6. traffic stop (3 time wave like a girl then stop)

the differences:

5. series of bumps rides

and you have to use a big >500cc bike to do all that w/o falling or your feet touching down (except during emergency braking)

yes and no

the bike weight difference is very big. a normal kapcai is about 100kg, while a typical bike would weigh at least 180 (a cheaper er6 will weigh at 220, and an expensive superbike can be as light as 150kg)

u definitely can't afford a handle lock on a big bike. the turning radius is very small, so you can't maneuvre around like a kapcai would

the acceleration is very tempting, and so sudden. one twist of a throttle what you may use on a kapcai would send you flying on a superbike

learning the clutch is the easy part if you have experience driving a manual car. just make sure you have strong left fingers.

This post has been edited by lucifah: May 2 2012, 08:26 AM

with armored leather jacket and proper sliding techniques, you can save some bones, and bruises, but there's no guarantee

with normal riding jacket, lightly armored one, you can perhaps save some deep scratches, but if you fvked up pretty well, you may see some bones broken


any bikes can be easily stolen. that's why you have disc locks. put many2 sure take more time for thieves to curi

some high end bikes come with immobilisers built in - you can't start the bike without the original key

and most ppl dunno how to ride a bike. most thieves would do the stupid noob thing and end up revving too much and fall down, crashing your expensive bike.

u can take B full directly, but if you have no prior riding experience, the learnign curve will be a bit steep


ride carefully, know your limit, observe traffic rules & respect your bike

had a er6-n for less than two months

been riding a scooter for the past 4 years

had my driving license for 14 years


best advice?

alwasy bring a rain jacket or you may end up standing in a wooden shack by the roadside, while haning your head in shame, watching all the cars that you overtook at 130km/h passed by you

try malaysianbikers.com.my - you have to register first to be able to access the sales thread

wrong verb used. still has.

the pic taken this morning during a solo 150km ride.

38k otr. a bit expensive, but hey, i'm on the other side of malaysia

be like me

just go and buy the damn bike. you can learn to ride it later and get your license the next month.

with the 1198, u don't pick chicks. they jump at you willingly


she's nearly 2 months old and is reaching the magical 1,000 miles (1,600km) mark soon to unleash the full horsepower

no need to retake table test. but you have to sit throguh 1 day of boring lecture to renew your L license first.

yes, no need to retake test.

just have to sit through the boring 1-day mandatory lecture b4 they can issue u a L license

then after 1 month u can take jpj test

sorry. can't help you with the bank loan details since i pay my bike in just 1 installment, i.e. cash

but from what i gathered from friends:

1. use personal loan, bank rakyat offers loans @ 4% p.a. advantage is the green card is in your name. downside is your loan amount can be very limited.

2. hire purchase - very few banks will offer hp for motorbikes, and their rates vary. last i heard is public bank @ 4.7 - 4.8% interest. maybank is at 6%. Aeon is worse, at almost 10%. only advantage is you can loan any amount you want, but financing margin is only 70% - meaning you have to pay 30% d/p

application is like normal - payslips, employment letter, tax return, etc etc etc.


hope that helps

road tax in sarawak is bloody cheap, but you get lowya roads here

rm40 for my 650cc

insurance? depends on the sum insured. mine, fully value insured with 1st party, all rider, around rm900+



yes, some banks do give hire purchase loans on motorbikes, but the interest is very high (around 6%) and financing margin is only 70% (meaning you have to pay 30% DP)

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Added on July 6, 2012, 11:42 pmalhtough you can buy the same models as the police, u can't get exactly the same

the police bikes from honda are specially designed for police use, with integrated equipment - not an add on or aftermarket upgrade. it was factory fitted - the siren, intercom, hazard, and lots more controls

This post has been edited by lucifah: Jul 6 2012, 11:42 PM

that is if u live in a perfect world

in our reality, bikes tend to fall down. accidents tend to happen. and that's where it hurts you the most financially, should you survive any mishaps w.o injuries

a simple bike fall would cause fairings to breaks, turn signals, side mirrors, handle bars - these small things cost a lot of money, and time to order, especially if it's an european bike

don't forget to factor in the periodical maintenance and time needed to look after your bike - oiling your chain every 500km, changing the motor oil and filter every 3 - 6k km, and such.

and your protective gears. good helmets cost 800 - 1,000+. u don't want to be wearing el cheapo malaysia, thailand or china made helmet with your duc monster, right? also important are gloves, costint you 100 - 200+, which will save your skin if you fall. riding boots are especially important. cost about 500+ for a good one. jackets are more personal. either you get full leather (500+) or a armored mesh jacket (300+ for grade a replica, 700+ for original)

all these are most probably accident-once-only. after and accident, you have to replace almost all your riding gears to to damages or torn as it dragged across the tarmac, protecint your skin bones.

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Added on July 7, 2012, 11:27 amsure can. only problem is your insurance might be a bit more since you don;t have the proper riding license, so you need to include all rider insurance.

This post has been edited by lucifah: Jul 7 2012, 11:27 AM

it's 2-cylinder versus 4-cylinder

2 cylinder engines (or twins) sound like a mesin jahit,

4-cylinder engine has very sweet engine tone

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Added on July 7, 2012, 10:52 pm6n - naked

6f - with fairing

mechanically, both are the same

except one has full fairing and another has bikini fairing

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Added on July 7, 2012, 10:54 pmliter bike, bro... litre

1 litre = 1,000 cc

1 kilo = 1,000 g

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Added on July 7, 2012, 10:56 pmpeople claim the naza blade 650r (rebadged hyosung 650) has almost similar exhaust tone with duc's desmo

u can try to have a go with the blade650r, much cheaper than even the entry level er6

This post has been edited by lucifah: Jul 7 2012, 10:56 PM

it's a parallel twin, a two cylinder

no. it has mesih jahit noise

change your sock exhaust and you may get decent engine noise

but a 7 - 8,000 rpm, even stock exhaust sounds awesome

if u say z750 is sexeeh, apparently, u haven't seen the streetfighter s



This post has been edited by lucifah: Jul 8 2012, 08:08 PM

the XJ6 Naked is very nice looking. dunno why HLY dun wanna bring it in. afraid of kawa er6-n competition kot...



sadly, we only have the diversion, which is neither here nor there.

it's like wearing a 1-piece bikini, which is not sexy, nor do it cover up all of it.