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post May 3 2012, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 3 2012, 12:18 AM)
yes, no need to retake test.

just have to sit through the boring 1-day mandatory lecture b4 they can issue u a L license

then after 1 month u can take jpj test
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Great, time to check out the nearest bike school for b full biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Barack Obama @ May 2 2012, 10:22 PM)
Like that also can? Buy bike first then license?hmm
But if buy new bike then learn, chances are gonna damage the new bike....when I first learned on normal bike(my moms) I fell a few times and damaged the bike...there were many scratches to the paint.
Right now is I kept looking at ur bike picture and it's very tempting me to get one Lol

Curious but the ducati 1198 only one seat rite? Cannot pick up chicks?
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I dont know how much money you have, LOL, but if you are at the age you can afford a 1198, and still picking up young chicks, something is not right. laugh.gif laugh.gif
just kidding k.


If having a pillion is important, 1098 is avaiable. Streetfighter looks good too.
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post May 30 2012, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 3 2012, 12:18 AM)
yes, no need to retake test.

just have to sit through the boring 1-day mandatory lecture b4 they can issue u a L license

then after 1 month u can take jpj test
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hi lucifah,

i'm pretty much interested in er6n
but how about the bike's loan? izzit similar with car hire purchase?with bank or the shop?

and the new ducati monster? can't apply loan from bank?

please share
thanks
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post May 30 2012, 10:01 PM

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Anyone knows what's the model for our PDRM's policebike ? Banyak cantik leh
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post May 30 2012, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(donnie.brasco @ May 30 2012, 09:35 PM)
hi lucifah,

i'm pretty much interested in er6n
but how about the bike's loan? izzit similar with car hire purchase?with bank or the shop?

and the new ducati monster? can't apply loan from bank?

please share
thanks
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sorry. can't help you with the bank loan details since i pay my bike in just 1 installment, i.e. cash laugh.gif

but from what i gathered from friends:

1. use personal loan, bank rakyat offers loans @ 4% p.a. advantage is the green card is in your name. downside is your loan amount can be very limited.

2. hire purchase - very few banks will offer hp for motorbikes, and their rates vary. last i heard is public bank @ 4.7 - 4.8% interest. maybank is at 6%. Aeon is worse, at almost 10%. only advantage is you can loan any amount you want, but financing margin is only 70% - meaning you have to pay 30% d/p

application is like normal - payslips, employment letter, tax return, etc etc etc.


hope that helps
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post Jul 6 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 30 2012, 11:32 PM)
sorry. can't help you with the bank loan details since i pay my bike in just 1 installment, i.e. cash  laugh.gif

but from what i gathered from friends:

1. use personal loan, bank rakyat offers loans @ 4% p.a. advantage is the green card is in your name. downside is your loan amount can be very limited.

2. hire purchase - very few banks will offer hp for motorbikes, and their rates vary. last i heard is public bank @ 4.7 - 4.8% interest. maybank is at 6%. Aeon is worse, at almost 10%. only advantage is you can loan any amount you want, but financing margin is only 70% - meaning you have to pay 30% d/p

application is like normal - payslips, employment letter, tax return, etc etc etc.
hope that helps
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Nice thread, can I take over/tumpang? tongue.gif I have zero experience in riding a bike and am currently targeting the Ducati Monster 795, is it suitable for newbie, provided that I'll promise myself to know my own limits innocent.gif ? Besides, how much is the road tax & insurance for this bike?
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QUOTE(foxxy @ May 30 2012, 10:01 PM)
Anyone knows what's the model for our PDRM's policebike ? Banyak cantik leh
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Police uses 2 new bike models, apart from the old CBX 750....

Honda CBX 750 Police bike

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Honda VFR 800 police bike

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Honda ST 1300 Police bike

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post Jul 6 2012, 05:20 PM

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This is the models that is available for public.... all V4 engine...

VFR 800

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The most popular of all.... VFR 800 VTEC

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The most expensive.... ST 1300

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bikes for beginners

any bikes more than 750cc can be consider as 'superbike' .. below than that its just a 'sportbike' ..

as for beginner ..no need to think about those super bikes ..get used with a small sportbike range 150 - 250 cc..

trust me ..if you never ride a super bike before ..90% chance you might loose the bike control ... like what happen to my mom friends son ... the parents present their son with a superbike (not sure how many cc) ... he never ride a big bike before ..first time he ride the bike ..straight away accident and die ... a friend of a friend of mine .. only enjoy 2 days with his new CBR1000RR aka Rabbit ... then accident ..but lucky he is safe ..just broke the hand only.. all these because they are not used with the power produce from the bike ..

so...start with small bike first ..then upgrade to bigger bike slowly as you getting used to it..
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QUOTE(louyit @ Jul 6 2012, 03:56 PM)
Nice thread, can I take over/tumpang? tongue.gif  I have zero experience in riding a bike and am currently targeting the Ducati Monster 795, is it suitable for newbie, provided that I'll promise myself to know my own limits innocent.gif ? Besides, how much is the road tax & insurance for this bike?
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that cost u a bomb to repair and service it .....
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post Jul 6 2012, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 2 2012, 08:25 AM)
yes and no

the bike weight difference is very big. a normal kapcai is about 100kg, while a typical bike would weigh at least 180 (a cheaper er6 will weigh at 220, and an expensive superbike can be as light as 150kg)

u definitely can't afford a handle lock on a big bike. the turning radius is very small, so you can't maneuvre around like a kapcai would

the acceleration is very tempting, and so sudden. one twist of a throttle what you may use on a kapcai would send you flying on a superbike

learning the clutch is the easy part if you have experience driving a manual car. just make sure you have strong left fingers.
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if i'm not mistaken , small - can do smaller turning radius while big - need bigger space for turning radius ...

maybe i'm wrong ... blush.gif
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QUOTE(812799 @ Jul 6 2012, 06:13 PM)
if i'm not mistaken , small - can do smaller turning radius while big - need bigger space for turning radius ...

maybe i'm wrong ... blush.gif
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and alot first timer mistake, they dare to accelerate (full throttle on 1 n 2 gear is sucide act), but when reach corner they slow down (thought slow can take corner easier) without keeping momentum, it become over steer and kaboom ......
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jul 6 2012, 06:05 PM)
that cost u a bomb to repair and service it .....
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Maintainance isn't the biggest issue..the loan is..because banks don't give loans on bikes
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post Jul 6 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(louyit @ Jul 6 2012, 03:56 PM)
Nice thread, can I take over/tumpang? tongue.gif  I have zero experience in riding a bike and am currently targeting the Ducati Monster 795, is it suitable for newbie, provided that I'll promise myself to know my own limits innocent.gif ? Besides, how much is the road tax & insurance for this bike?
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road tax in sarawak is bloody cheap, but you get lowya roads here

rm40 for my 650cc

insurance? depends on the sum insured. mine, fully value insured with 1st party, all rider, around rm900+



QUOTE(louyit @ Jul 6 2012, 08:07 PM)
Maintainance isn't the biggest issue..the loan is..because banks don't give loans on bikes
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yes, some banks do give hire purchase loans on motorbikes, but the interest is very high (around 6%) and financing margin is only 70% (meaning you have to pay 30% DP)


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alhtough you can buy the same models as the police, u can't get exactly the same

the police bikes from honda are specially designed for police use, with integrated equipment - not an add on or aftermarket upgrade. it was factory fitted - the siren, intercom, hazard, and lots more controls

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QUOTE(asrulz @ Jul 6 2012, 05:31 PM)
bikes for beginners

any bikes more than 750cc can be consider as 'superbike' .. below than that its just a 'sportbike' ..

as for beginner ..no need to think about those super bikes ..get used with a small sportbikeĀ  range 150 - 250 cc..

trust me ..if you never ride a super bike before ..90% chance you might loose the bike control ... like what happen to my mom friends son ... the parents present their son with a superbike (not sure how many cc) ... he never ride a big bike before ..first time he ride the bike ..straight away accident and die ... a friend of a friend of mine .. only enjoy 2 days with his new CBR1000RR aka Rabbit ... then accident ..but lucky he is safe ..just broke the hand only.. all these because they are not used with the power produce from the bike ..

so...start with small bike first ..then upgrade to bigger bike slowly as you getting used to it..
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Wow so that means the parents present send their son to heaven...sad to hear man. The parents must be very sad and regret buying the bike...
Now I scared ride big bikes after hearing this...but I always wanted to learn how to wheelie on a big bike brows.gif

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post Jul 7 2012, 06:36 AM

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QUOTE(louyit @ Jul 6 2012, 08:07 PM)
Maintainance isn't the biggest issue..the loan is..because banks don't give loans on bikes
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Ar? Is Italian, . . . . Tyre is standard, wear n tare part that become Ur monthly liability if u ride it on daily basic
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post Jul 7 2012, 08:00 AM

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Can i purchase a bike prior to having my bike license? ie with loan from bank..
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post Jul 7 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jul 7 2012, 06:36 AM)
Ar?  Is Italian,  . . . .  Tyre is standard, wear n tare part that become Ur monthly liability if u ride it on daily basic
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that is if u live in a perfect world

in our reality, bikes tend to fall down. accidents tend to happen. and that's where it hurts you the most financially, should you survive any mishaps w.o injuries

a simple bike fall would cause fairings to breaks, turn signals, side mirrors, handle bars - these small things cost a lot of money, and time to order, especially if it's an european bike

don't forget to factor in the periodical maintenance and time needed to look after your bike - oiling your chain every 500km, changing the motor oil and filter every 3 - 6k km, and such.

and your protective gears. good helmets cost 800 - 1,000+. u don't want to be wearing el cheapo malaysia, thailand or china made helmet with your duc monster, right? also important are gloves, costint you 100 - 200+, which will save your skin if you fall. riding boots are especially important. cost about 500+ for a good one. jackets are more personal. either you get full leather (500+) or a armored mesh jacket (300+ for grade a replica, 700+ for original)

all these are most probably accident-once-only. after and accident, you have to replace almost all your riding gears to to damages or torn as it dragged across the tarmac, protecint your skin bones.


Added on July 7, 2012, 11:27 am
QUOTE(henry1201 @ Jul 7 2012, 08:00 AM)
Can i purchase a bike prior to having my bike license? ie with loan from bank..
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sure can. only problem is your insurance might be a bit more since you don;t have the proper riding license, so you need to include all rider insurance.

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post Jul 7 2012, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(asrulz @ Jul 6 2012, 05:31 PM)
bikes for beginners

any bikes more than 750cc can be consider as 'superbike' .. below than that its just a 'sportbike' ..

as for beginner ..no need to think about those super bikes ..get used with a small sportbike  range 150 - 250 cc..

trust me ..if you never ride a super bike before ..90% chance you might loose the bike control ... like what happen to my mom friends son ... the parents present their son with a superbike (not sure how many cc) ... he never ride a big bike before ..first time he ride the bike ..straight away accident and die ... a friend of a friend of mine .. only enjoy 2 days with his new CBR1000RR aka Rabbit ... then accident ..but lucky he is safe ..just broke the hand only.. all these because they are not used with the power produce from the bike ..

so...start with small bike first ..then upgrade to bigger bike slowly as you getting used to it..
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Your comment alerts me to ride safe, if i ever start to ride..but some people start with 500cc> bike and have no problems too..it depends on individual

QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 6 2012, 11:39 PM)
road tax in sarawak is bloody cheap, but you get lowya roads here

rm40 for my 650cc

insurance? depends on the sum insured. mine, fully value insured with 1st party, all rider, around rm900+
yes, some banks do give hire purchase loans on motorbikes, but the interest is very high (around 6%) and financing margin is only 70% (meaning you have to pay 30% DP)
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Ok then, i guess the salesman can give me more accurate information for semenanjung..30% DP should be ok, but the balance will need to loan as i dun wish to dump all money in that freaking bike cry.gif perhaps i should start looking at er-6n or 6f? May I know what are the major differences between two of them? Kawasaki is more economical, but the setback is it's exhaust tone sweat.gif

QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 7 2012, 11:26 AM)
that is if u live in a perfect world

in our reality, bikes tend to fall down. accidents tend to happen. and that's where it hurts you the most financially, should you survive any mishaps w.o injuries

a simple bike fall would cause fairings to breaks, turn signals, side mirrors, handle bars - these small things cost a lot of money, and time to order, especially if it's an european bike

don't forget to factor in the periodical maintenance and time needed to look after your bike - oiling your chain every 500km, changing the motor oil and filter every 3 - 6k km, and such.

and your protective gears. good helmets cost 800 - 1,000+. u don't want to be wearing el cheapo malaysia, thailand or china made helmet with your duc monster, right? also important are gloves, costint you 100 - 200+, which will save your skin if you fall. riding boots are especially important. cost about 500+ for a good one. jackets are more personal. either you get full leather (500+) or a armored mesh jacket (300+ for grade a replica, 700+ for original)

all these are most probably accident-once-only. after and accident, you have to replace almost all your riding gears to to damages or torn as it dragged across the tarmac, protecint your skin bones.
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Great info, guess i'd have to prepare another 10k standby just for maintenance & gears

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QUOTE(louyit @ Jul 7 2012, 05:29 PM)
Your comment alerts me to ride safe, if i ever start to ride..but some people start with 500cc> bike and have no problems too..it depends on individual
Ok then, i guess the salesman can give me more accurate information for semenanjung..30% DP should be ok, but the balance will need to loan as i dun wish to dump all money in that freaking bike cry.gif perhaps i should start looking at er-6n or 6f? May I know what are the major differences between two of them? Kawasaki is more economical, but the setback is it's exhaust tone sweat.gif
Great info, guess i'd have to prepare another 10k standby just for maintenance & gears
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what u means exhaust tone ?? if u want, u can change exhoaust system or u means engine sound ? 2 pinton Vs 4 piston Vs 2 stroke Vs 4 stoke is totally different ...


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