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post Jun 24 2012, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(1234567r @ Jun 24 2012, 10:21 PM)
my level 4 unit after discount 325k.
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Is this actually Saujana address or Shah Alam address? As it is next to Glenmarie golf club wherelse Saujana golf club is across at NKVE?

Since access only via the tunnel, touch wood, if there is a fire, apa macam?
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post Jun 25 2012, 09:22 AM

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I heard from those with experience staying near highway, the higher the floor, the louder will be the noise from the cars as noise travel upwards. Is this true?

When I visited Eve Suite showroom, the SA told me that the side facing NKVE, the developer changed the window glass to a thicker spec. The SA even showed us the different sample of the glass comparing the side not facing NKVE and the side facing NKVE
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post Jun 25 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(seancl85 @ Jun 25 2012, 12:22 PM)
U mean saujana all with double glazed window?
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The SA told me NO.

What are the studio units still available?
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post Jun 26 2012, 02:45 PM

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For investment how much rental estimated can fetch upon VP for the 651 sq ft unit?
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post Jun 27 2012, 02:05 PM

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The 1,300 sf units what price net? Facing what view? Many still available?
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post Jun 28 2012, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(1234567r @ Jun 27 2012, 10:27 PM)
hi, i dont think another 10% after vp, it is about 2-3k rebate after completion.
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I think the 10% rebate after VP is still available. For those who have signed S&P, is this cash payment back to purchaser adequately stated in the S&P to protect purchaser interest?

Is developer bearing the legal fee and stamp duty for the bank loan agreement? Read that they only cover legal fee for S&P only.
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post Jun 28 2012, 01:38 PM

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My friend is quite concern about the closeness of the LRT line affecting the future value of HJ. Actually how is the noise level because the LRT line is actually very very close and was told that there will be a train passing by almost every 10 mins when the line is up and running

Any comments?
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post Jun 28 2012, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Meganly @ Jun 28 2012, 01:50 PM)
Try go choose those away from lrt units if u scares of tht..perhaps a middle unit
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As you know those units with number 2, 4 etc will be furthest away from the LRT line compared to those with higher unit number. Do you mean a middle unit will be less noisy than units further away from the LRT line (i.e those with unit number 2,4 etc)?


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post Jul 12 2012, 10:32 PM

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How is the sales status so far?
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post Aug 29 2012, 12:25 PM

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So quiet? Any latest news?


Added on August 30, 2012, 11:17 am
QUOTE(CMW123 @ Aug 29 2012, 12:25 PM)
So quiet? Any latest news?
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Last block open for sale. 1372 sq ft. RM740k to RM800k

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post Oct 7 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Ed2506 @ Oct 6 2012, 05:34 PM)
I am waiting for loan approval , shd pay downpayment next week .. in term of price per sf of 475 after rebate , I think still  a good investment
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RM475 psf, is this for the third n final block 1300+ sq ft? mind to share which floor and what is the view?

Still have units available?
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post Oct 9 2012, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(Ed2506 @ Oct 9 2012, 06:30 PM)
Level 8 , facing glemarie bungloo ..block b ,  around 750k bef rebate, still has many unit
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Check from iproperty that Amaya Saujana subsale is doing less than RM500 psf, just wondeirng how come the price appreciation is slow for this area? Thought Amaya is a luxury project. Even Oasis is doing subsale of RM600-RM650 psf

How much will Hijauan estimated to fetch upon VP if invest now at around RM475 psf?
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post Oct 15 2012, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ed2506 @ Oct 11 2012, 11:32 PM)
When u call agent , they will quote u higher.. Those price maybe 1 to 2 years back , auto update till now, I think amaya shd be around 550 to 600psf, for 1500sf unit sell around 850k
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Nova Saujana currently launched by Malton asking for about RM600 psf...so Amaya is quite value for money albeit min size is 1,500 sq ft
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post Oct 23 2012, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(imprezaWRX @ Oct 23 2012, 10:25 AM)
which developer ?  blink.gif

Nova Saujana ? it's the same developer as Amaya's ... Malton ..

Hijauan Saujana ? Focal Aims .. same developer as Saujana O Lot ..

unfortunately the problem with Amaya's pricing is the problem with the property market now ..
the subsale market is not reflective of the 'future market's price ..
that with the fact that even at RM550psf, because of sheer size of the units, the asking price of Amaya is easily RM800k ++ ..  rclxub.gif
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So the 1,372 sq ft 3 rooms at RM475 psf worth to invest? Only RM650k...
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post Feb 25 2013, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(lordsothng @ Feb 25 2013, 11:25 AM)
building seems to be going on schedule. should be completing on time ^^
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How many units still available?
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post Mar 21 2013, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(jpbeads @ Mar 21 2013, 12:43 PM)
How come no updates or reviews on this project. Is this a good buy or not?
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Very attractive price but concern on some Feng Shui issue

1. Site lower than surrounding
2. Pass through a tunnel to enter
3. One side face LRT track (quite near)
4. One side face NKVE (quite near)
5. Best view of 3 rooms unit facing the bungalows in Glenmarie but no golf view
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post Jun 28 2013, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(my44 @ Jun 28 2013, 05:51 PM)
I visited the sales office again last week. HS was previously under my consideration but that time, I opted for 1-bedroom at Eve Suite mainly due to full-furnishing package & "confirmed" LRT access. This time around, I went to HS sales office to look at their 3-bedroom for possible own-stay purpose.

Available units?
There are plenty of 1,3xx and 1,6xx sqft units still available. I noticed that those available units are located on certain "sides", possibly facing highway or other units. I didn't understand well from the 2D chart but the SA took great effort to explain this "side" is facing what and that "side" is facing what.

Pricing?
Still affordable, realtively speaking. My only qualm is how they don't put pricing directly on the 2D chart for immediate reference. The SA had to go back to her PC and print individual pricing based on which unit I pointed out. In the end, I only received 2 pricing printouts. 1,3xx sqft on Level 7 going for 680k (S&P price after *discount*) and 1,6xx sqft for 650k on Level 4 (S&P price). For the latter pricing, the unit actually includes an extra 300 sqft of private outdoor terrace and the SA claimed it is only priced minimally into the total cost. Hence the explanation of why 1,6xx sqft is cheaper than 1,3xx sqft on Level 7. Also bear in mind that Level 4 is the pseudo ground floor for HS as anything below is for parking. All amenities are also located on Level 4 and you can enter your unit directly at the private outdoor terrace upon returning from the pool, for example.

1,6xx sqft sounds like a good deal?
In term of pricing, absolutely. Even if you strip off the extra 300 sqft, 1,3xx for 650k is reasonable in term of psf. But, my concern is more on how the outdoor terrace being immediately below other units 10-15 storey above it. As the terrace belongs to you as opposed to a common area, you will have to pick up anything thrown from above. I guess there are many things we don't know until the condo is VP-ed and I hope people's behaviour may have changed by then.

Freebies?
I think still similar to what was specified last year - full kitchen cabinet with cooker, hob and built-in oven, laminated floor for all bedrooms and free dryer. Although I can't recall if they offered free AC last time but none this time. While the show unit is nicely done without excessive ID, I went for Eve Suite strictly for the full furnishing package. I imagine the need to spend at least 50k for 3-bedroom unit to get a decent look; plaster, lighting, built-in wardrobe, nice furniture, cabinets, etc. The included kitchen package seems to be easily 25k right there, hence it is a welcome freebie in any case. Unless you have a dream kitchen that has a certain look that HS package cannot meet but I feel it satisfies 90% purchasers out there.

Access road?
Not much info I can gather except for the proposed 2-lane tunnel. I'm wondering if the developer has a black & white committment to do it. Does the tunnel area still belong inside the developer's land? How about the procedure to actually dig below existing NKVE? Will it involve getting agreement with PLUS management? Also, logically the land at the tunnel should belong to PLUS concessionaire or did I miss anything?

Entry from the main Subang Airport Road?
When asked, the SA said they have no plan to do as such.

Suitable for own stay?
Absolutely. The proposed landscaping, roof top gardens, super long swimming pool and other amenities are great if the developer delivers as promised. I also liked the concept where there won't be any commercial shop lots down below, unlike Eve Suite, which will invite traffic and haphazard parking, not to mention possibility of untenanted empty lots which are quite a waste.

LRT access?
For a start, I'm a fan of places that are walking distance to LRT. It's a nice option to have. While on paper, it should be a walking distance to the LRT station at Pacific Place and I prefer the option to leave my car at home and do everything on foot. In many places, I observe that going to work by LRT often involves driving and scrambling for limited parking space (and paying parking fees) at the LRT station. The SA said any overhead walking bridge will be outside the developer's jurisdiction. Many said it will be built closer to the Saujana interchange. Who knows? Whose responsibility? RapidKL? MPSJ? MBSA? Yes, one can drive to Pacific Place but for me, given the option, I'd prefer not drive.

So what's next?
I did not put down any booking. While I'm drawn to the overall concept, the "uncertainty" factors are somewhat overbearing. Everyone has their sets of requirement in what they are looking for. I'm not totally opposed to reconsider in the near future should additional updates coming in especially with regard to LRT access and the tunnel works. Remember the caveat of buying properties; the developer can promise you moon and stars but certain things are often beyond their controls.

Thanks for reading :-)
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This project is like in football match. Many people with ball at the goal post, ready to kick and score but always cannot make the decision to make that kick. At less than RM500psf vs Nova Saujana at RM700psf must be very tempting.... Developer is listed co and has okay reputation for Saujana zero lot project...

However, Amaja Saujana current market price is also around RM550 plus minus so the price appreciation at this side is much lower than the ara damansara side. Seems like Amaya Saujana 1500 sq ft asking for RM3500 rental also not too easy to get tenant

The triangular shaped land (feng shui angle not so great), one side fronting NKVE and one side LRT track. Actually very close to both. Noise and dust. However, if you choose the last/third block, those are facing glenmarie court so should be okay but too bad no golf view but only rooftop view unless very high floor...

Do you know that the site is actually lower than the highway ground level? Meaning upto xth level, it is below the NKVE so not so good feng shui as people said. This could explain the cheaper pricing for level 4 vs level 7 as cannot comprehend 300 sq ft extra still cannot offset 3 floors difference. Please check with SA what level is above the ground level.

RM650k for a 1600 sq ft freehold new launch at around RM400psf is such a bargain although as pointed out above, receiving thrown "rubbish" from upper floors is a possibility. Is this unit facing the pool or does it mean everyone walking past your unit for the facilities can look into your unit?

Not too sure whether can walk to the new LRT station, some said developer will have a back exit. So can anyone confirm this? Otherwise there is no way to close the busy highway

One room units were snapped up fast though one side face the noisy NKVE as entry is around RM350k plus minus...but 3 rooms units sales seems moving steadily only

Last feng shui point is having to go through the tunnel in and out...
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post Jul 3 2013, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(peter_pj @ Jul 3 2013, 04:14 PM)
I think you shouldn't compare with the perceived lack of property appreciation ala Amaya Saujana.

If you noticed, a lot of people who bought Amaya are investors wishing to make a quick buck through sub-sales once the property completes whilst most people who buy into Saujana are residents who are looking for a safe, clean and comfortable area to stay and grow.

Both objectives are different and Hijauan Saujana has never been marketed as an "investment" property but instead as a "great place to stay" property (re: notice lack of DIBS and heavy "investor" marketing).

Conclusion, if you want to invest, look towards Ara or Pacific Place side. If you want a good place to come home to, then Saujana may suit you.

Note: Feng shui, that's not my area at all. There are plenty of places that have great feng shui, but are not that great place to live at all.
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Amaya is definitely a great place to stay. I did thought of buy one and stay there; love the surrounding especially the unit that has saujana golf view. However, did not confirm because cannot comprehend why the price never really go up much compared to other projects nearby despite its good location and quality...

BUT the most important point is a great place to stay like Amaya should also have its own demand from people who want to have it as their great place to stay. The demand will naturally push up the price and make Amaya a good investment with price appreciation over time

Any sifu can enlighten?? Is it due to the weak rental market there???

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QUOTE(mikefly99 @ Jul 3 2013, 05:32 PM)
Do anyone know that two car parks are included for size 1372, but is back to back, check the plan, found out, there is actually all back to back, but not just two back to back, but three car parks in one row, hence the third car park is owe by developer, developer urge buyer to buy that car park as well, at 30K (which just draw three yellow lines).
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If you don't buy the third carpark, what can the developer do with it? Cannot be sold to anyone else nor use as visitor carpark??? hehehe...very strange arrangement
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post Jul 5 2013, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Lee Mui Li @ Jul 5 2013, 06:14 PM)
I have a good carpark for my unit smile.gif I can go in and out from both carpark although it's tandem, not blocked by wall or 3rd parking and near to the lift too. According to the developer, they will be a back gate (access from Jalan Lapangan Terbang Subang for garbage truck/emergency) ...so no worry for tunnel flooding
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Heard from SA about the back access also last time, heard was for bomba requirement as well.

Just wondering why this access cannot be opened up?

Like Nova Saujana, can enter from the side road along Jalan Lapangan Terbang and no need to access from Amaya Saujana...

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