I admit proton air condition is superb  coolest air conditioner I've felt so far.

accident 50kmh still die or not?

underpower proton....it actually doesn't mean the engine is underpower
its actually the A/C that is making the car underpower because when the compressor kick in, it take away quite an amount of torque
but that only applies to 1.3L at lower RPM
1.6L should be fine and 1.6 CFE should be fine
and another issue is the GB...last time the 4AT cannot change ratio...also contribute to the underpower/slow pickup/high FC
thats why they switched to CVT

newer gen proton(from saga BLM)..should be stable even at 150-160KM/H
reason?...thats the reason they uses HTS on the body
and ppl always complain why lotus ride and handling, the steering so "hard"(if u jump from T,p2)
because its meant to be that way....when you're cruising at high speed, hard steering helps....u can just basically use 1 hand to control like european car
japanese car...since steering so soft, need to grab the steering using 2 hand...and hold it tight like its going to lose control anytime

got mine semalam. mileage now 850km

first of all, can it brake?

u know, accidents happen not because u cannot accelerate but is because u cannot brake...acceleration and braking system must be in balance....

got mine semalam. mileage now 850km

unfortunately produa also very soft.
kancil & myvi

ko pergi balik danuk ke sampai 850km
weh review mana 

that becuz they have T's DNA
and T's steering is extremely soft....u try driving over 100KM/H, u would have to hold tight
i saw T driver...even 60KM/H also hold tight using 2 hand already

er... but for some reason i feel very comfy driving Innova
but crv stream also abit soft lah, not to my liking

engine no power, blame aircon, blame gearbox.

the rest of the car no aircon and gearbox? what kind of arguement is this?

should i put it this way, proton engine so underpower, put in an aircon and the car barely moves, correct?

myvi no aircon, viva no aircon?

your whole argument above = proton engine underpower la.
BUT, turbo solved it all     

why pulautikus my preve sucks thread kolos? lol

agree....just got car yesterday thn 850KM
if he got the car already 850KM...thn can complain why mileage so high

Both of you have a point la. He has a point in the sense proton air cond takes a lot out of the engine. You can't really compare proton to myvi air cond because myvi air cond doesn't take as much as proton. Myvi air cond sucks. If I had a choice to make it more powerful I'd take that option.

But you have a point too the engine is definitely underpowered, but don't have to write him off like that. Have to be objective. Both of you have points.