ok, let talk on your 3rd point.

now the thing is photography deliver but with some of oof photos/bad shot which is not make the taukeh satisfy. may be there are no real mutual calibration between photographer and the taukeh (who pay money for the photographer) upon negotiating the deal, ie:

at position A, 50 shots, all ppl that shake hand with me, no blur and miss shot

at position B, minimum 20 shots, free style

at position C, 5 perfect shot (no mistake in lighting and blur, etc)

at wedding dinner, every table 3 shots, champions visited every table minimum 1 shot (i want wide angle shot), etc

now is not the expire ingredient issue (lens front/back issue, malfunction of the LCD screen, EVF, etc), is more on the photographer skill and technique likewise how the chef to cook the chicken chop, want the chicken chop in lada hitam, spicy, etc that is technique need to tell the photographer if u want shoot this, your setting need to be like this n this. may be the rc just bcos there is no SSS in body or IS in lens, cause blur photos

anyway, too bad today most of new entry hold a dslr, put a flash gun, attach a diffusel, plug a vertical grip, wa look like a pro photographer

er, your post so long - i see no relevance with my 3rd point also.

no matter how you charge, even cheap cheap, you're expected to deliver. Doesn't have to be world class photo but it has to be of decent exposure and focus at least.

Some story here..

I know someone A helped to shoot B's family and baby portrait.
A charged B RM300 and the result is awful!

Talked to my friend C on that set of photo and C said cannot blame A for not doing good job because it depends on the setup, background in the house... What talking wor!? BS..

Talking nonsense ler... exactly like what you mentioned the above. Pay RM5 but taste no good using expired ingredients.. then it's the consumer problem!?

tu lah. many people use "pay peanuts get monkey" phrase. Well, 750 GBP is certainly not peanuts either. If only 50 GBP was paid then I think the phrase still applicable.

See, no matter how is that there is an agreement already. I will pay X sum. You will deliver photos with the agreed sum.

To use that phrase on this case, it's like a sweeping statement to say all photographers who are paid that sum will be lousy, and it's also like an overall defense against the incompetent service provider.

Just because it's cheap doesn't mean you get to produce nonsense. Even road side burgers are cheap but they're decent in taste and quality. At least you still enjoy.

Then the B asked me to shoot for his baby's birthday party..
Being thick skin.. he asked for FOC services from me on this job.

I turned down his invitation la by giving some lame excuse... many would say eh I like your photos la this and that.. then end with statement... "can you help me to shoot for free?"

You think I'm doing charity meh.. IF I wanted to do for free, no need for you to ask me.. I'll offer myself willingly.

call me senang, foc, got time and nearby i shoot free for you -but output not guarantee.

If really close friend, I dun mind shot FOC for them,
but if just once in a blue moon, the fella duno poput from where, suddenly approace: eh, bla bla bla.... can you "help" me shot?
I going to tell them: plz find someone else.... really, I would rather spend the time doing something else.

For some, they will think about: taking picture easy only mah, press shutter gao dim.
If really that simple job, the world would become an easy place to stay

for me, just forget the sum u going to receive. The time u agree to shot, u hold your camera on your hand, look thru viewfinder, ready for pressing shutter button, u hav to deliver proper shot.
Respect to yourself and your camera.

This post has been edited by onghy: Apr 27 2012, 09:01 AM

i think those photographer tat get paid, ego dem high one, hahahahah

I know someone who bought a dslr and direct charge ppl for services. The wedding shot he charged is professional fee but after awhile, he removed his service thing from his blog and still charge RM10 for a portrait shots. He previously charge portrait shot at RM300~RM400++.

Dunno what happen in the middle. Maybe kena XXX by customers already.

Cannot say like that wan... They get paid to shoot.. And have right to say no no if ppl ask for free shoot.

Those ppl ask for free shoot are cheapskate la

yankiat, i dun mean tat la

Hahaha ok ok :swt:

Bump into this thread, when surfing around.

haha, the photo from the link seems very poor, but the link cannot really tell us whether that is the only few fail shot that was taken, it says the photos received include thos poor photo.

Bro wliam, you are right if it is juz a few shots the couple wouldn't make such a big fuss. But thre was a smilar incident where this photographer wrote to Gary Fong for advise, Gary Fong browse through the photo notice most of the photo looks good only a few crap shot, but the photographer was being sued.


Anyway, for me it is the photographer responsibility to screen through and filter the photos before handing over the end product. So, photographer have to be smart, not giving obvious chances to those fussy and troublemaker to pick on you.

thread came back from the dead =.=

wedding photography sounds so easy yet its so simple to screw it up. moral of the story, dont get into this business if ur not serious. nanti carik masalah only

Wedding Photography is not a field to mess around. If you not serious enough for it, please don' shoot for your cust. Even you confidence enough than ask some acc u for first few wedding. I do shoot quite number of wedding, each time I will feel cold sweat due I affraid I screw their moment ..

To me both sides are at fault.

The client should research the credibility of their soon-to-be Photographer for their special day. Pricing does not justify the quality of service. Price wise it's different from people to people due to different cost of living. Some "big" photographers charge more to accommodate for their studio, employers, bills and profit to expand their business. Some can deliver quality photographs (even better in some cases) with low pricing since they don't have to bear these costs, due to being young and still living with their parents. Price wise, service pricing is very subjective.

Thats why I always encourage both sides meet up and sit-down before making any deals. Ask them to bring their printed port-folio, ask them to see coverage for ONE whole wedding. Some photographers mask up their mistakes by compiling other weddings into one album. Check their work consistency. Review their contract. If you're happy with the photographer then sign the deal. By doing this will avoid unwanted thing and both will be happy.

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: Oct 19 2012, 05:19 PM

Had my brother's wedding shots processed by the photographer and saw it was over PSed! Grrr.

Also, many times, I shot FOC as the secondary photog, as my hengtai only can afford 1 and when they arrived, some only have 50 f1.8 and kit lens and perhaps 70-300! So Mah take out my camera and shoot coz I know my friend kena con Liao.

Later they always say I shots are better. Bahhh

Hello people...
Nice discussion! Here about this topic and if some one know about Wedding photography so you can share your ideas with me
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This post has been edited by kashif_dossani: May 23 2014, 07:42 PM