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 Should Preve still be considered?, Or drop it and consider others?

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post Apr 18 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(jackiewong @ Apr 18 2012, 01:42 PM)
haha.. good features?.. excellent handling?.. superb chassis?.. this is what we called supporting blindly...  whistling.gif
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You didn't catch him. He is just being sarcastic smile.gif

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post Apr 18 2012, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 18 2012, 02:00 PM)
Diamondbar...is that u?
or u didn't research other car also have this or not??
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No ler, not him. Take picture is taken by me and posted in my blog

Anyways, coming back to topic, I find the price range to be really huge. It really depends on priority, I feel. Test drive is a definite must before considering the spec sheet.

In terms of sheer value for money, I take the Preve. Since I place comfort as a priority, the large cabin space (more comfort for rear passengers for long distance drives) and superior NVH (you really won't notice the speed you're travelling in unless u look at the meter) wins high marks for me. I don't zip around in high speeds too much but it's good to know overtaking on B roads can be done confidently.

In summary:-

Peugeot 207 - space restriction, heavy steering
Vios J spec - compromised safety
Inspira 2.0 - arguably a good choice too but space and spec wise, Preve wins, not to mention a lot cheaper
Forte 2.0 - Preve trumps rear comfort and space
Myvi 1.5 - Not really a sedan so I won't consider this as an option
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 18 2012, 03:12 PM)
becuz he doesn't know...he just drive
he thought the turbo kicks in once he step on it
he doesn't know...be4 2k RPM, its NA 1.6 after all
if he got see the brochure..already stated 205nM(2k-4k RPM)
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seriously that 1k rpm before turbo spools does it take that long to reach 2k rpm? i haven't go test drive yet but based on my previous (10 years) experiences with turbo cars, 1k rpm of turbo lag / sluggishness isn't THAT bad. but this is just my 2 cents, need to test drive first to see. at least u won't have to suffer the crappy underpowered and unresponsiveness of the vios on ALL the rev range

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post Apr 18 2012, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(xshiro @ Apr 18 2012, 02:49 PM)
i can comment on iafm+, it is fine in saga flx

cfe+cvt, seems fine in exora..

just interior /exterior plastic and other small mechanical stuffs quality are still unknown
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my friends first batch Exora Bold first three months engine suddenly shut down.... send back to service center dunno what happen.... then he regreted.... he said he should not give Proton chance at all... should have listen to me to buy the later batch car instead of becoming the guinea pig or should i said QC OFFICER of Proton.
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Apr 18 2012, 03:18 PM)
seriously that 1k rpm before turbo spools does it take that long to reach 2k rpm?  i haven't go test drive yet but based on my previous (10 years) experiences with turbo cars, 1k rpm of turbo lag / sluggishness isn't THAT bad.  but this is just my 2 cents, need to test drive first to see.  at least u won't have to suffer the crappy underpowered and unresponsiveness of the vios on ALL the rev range
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Different expectations, especially for those who are unfamiliar with turbo. Maybe you go test drive one and let us know how it compares to your experience?


Added on April 18, 2012, 3:21 pm
QUOTE(0300078 @ Apr 18 2012, 03:20 PM)
my friends first batch Exora Bold first three months engine suddenly shut down.... send back to service center dunno what happen.... then he regreted.... he said he should not give Proton chance at all... should have listen to me to buy the later batch car instead of becoming the guinea pig or should i said QC OFFICER of Proton.
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Your friend might have a lose battery terminal courtesy of lousy dealers, not neccesarily Proton.

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post Apr 18 2012, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Apr 18 2012, 03:17 PM)
No ler, not him. Take picture is taken by me and posted in my blog

Anyways, coming back to topic, I find the price range to be really huge. It really depends on priority, I feel. Test drive is a definite must before considering the spec sheet.

In terms of sheer value for money, I take the Preve. Since I place comfort as a priority, the large cabin space (more comfort for rear passengers for long distance drives) and superior NVH (you really won't notice the speed you're travelling in unless u look at the meter) wins high marks for me. I don't zip around in high speeds too much but it's good to know overtaking on B roads can be done confidently.

In summary:-

Peugeot 207 - space restriction, heavy steering
Vios J spec - compromised safety
Inspira 2.0 - arguably a good choice too but space and spec wise, Preve wins, not to mention a lot cheaper
Forte 2.0 - Preve trumps rear comfort and space
Myvi 1.5 - Not really a sedan so I won't consider this as an option
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if u want an inspira...u can take that as well
in paper, its more expensive than preve but inspira can get big discount from SA
making it somewhat very near price to preve
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:26 PM

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hey! why cannot vote for Ford Fiesta? Good car!!!
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Apr 18 2012, 03:18 PM)
seriously that 1k rpm before turbo spools does it take that long to reach 2k rpm?  i haven't go test drive yet but based on my previous (10 years) experiences with turbo cars, 1k rpm of turbo lag / sluggishness isn't THAT bad.  but this is just my 2 cents, need to test drive first to see.  at least u won't have to suffer the crappy underpowered and unresponsiveness of the vios on ALL the rev range
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i think its different perception and how we all drive(all different style driving)
i haven't test drive this yet
but for newer gen proton, the min requirement for changing gear is 2k RPM...from what i heard from EB owner also keeping the RPM around 2k as well when pick up
i think its not a problem la..not sure abt others(i dn't see any EB owner complaining abt that also)
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Apr 18 2012, 02:42 PM)
I will mention again....

Proton Preve looks nice and sound nice on paper. The exact product still clueless but based on pass experience of Proton....
It is wise that u buy the second or third batch of Proton Preve becoz MOST LIKELY they will have some MINOR problem with all their new product.
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Well, it's just like software. The product will be improved/updated in later versions. Hope proton will iron out all the problems in later batch or in Preve hatchback.

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post Apr 18 2012, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Apr 18 2012, 03:20 PM)
my friends first batch Exora Bold first three months engine suddenly shut down.... send back to service center dunno what happen.... then he regreted.... he said he should not give Proton chance at all... should have listen to me to buy the later batch car instead of becoming the guinea pig or should i said QC OFFICER of Proton.
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thats NOT proton's problem
its your friend's SA problem...he didn't tighten the battery connector back(when its loosen back at the stockyard)
the fix is simple but mechanic in SC most dn't know how to fix cuz they're not trained to fix this
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Preve or Inspira or Fiesta or Forte
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:28 PM

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Bro! Dont need to consider at all! Buy Vios J spec bro!!!!

Its a Toyota... hence sure super built quality! Dependable! Resale value like GOLD! And instant face with your relatives/friends for driving a TOYOTA!!
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(vincentwmh @ Apr 18 2012, 03:14 PM)
u can buy anything under the sky & on top of the earth BUT PROTON. never have i heard of anyone said its worth owing one.

trust me, the quality of welding is a big let down. engin performance...giosh!!! neither it here nor there
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HEAR THIS , I WILL BE THE FIRST PERSON IN THIS WORLD TO TELL YOU , I FEEL IT IS WORTH TO OWN A PROTON EVEN THOUGH I OWN THE CHEAPEST CAR OF PROTON
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 18 2012, 03:28 PM)
Bro! Dont need to consider at all! Buy Vios J spec bro!!!!

Its a Toyota... hence sure super built quality! Dependable! Resale value like GOLD! And instant face with your relatives/friends for driving a TOYOTA!!
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Vios J is the best don't you think? I rather dump all the money to buy Vios J than getting Proton. Ptui!!
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Apr 18 2012, 03:28 PM)
Bro! Dont need to consider at all! Buy Vios J spec bro!!!!

Its a Toyota... hence sure super built quality! Dependable! Resale value like GOLD! And instant face with your relatives/friends for driving a TOYOTA!!
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QUOTE(Number92 @ Apr 18 2012, 03:32 PM)
HEAR THIS , I WILL BE THE FIRST PERSON IN THIS WORLD TO TELL YOU , I FEEL IT IS WORTH TO OWN A PROTON EVEN THOUGH I OWN THE CHEAPEST CAR OF PROTON
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nah, you won't be the first person to tell that, yet won't be the last. those who says that will say invest in property better.

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post Apr 18 2012, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Apr 18 2012, 03:28 PM)
thats NOT proton's problem
its your friend's SA problem...he didn't tighten the battery connector back(when its loosen back at the stockyard)
the fix is simple but mechanic in SC most dn't know how to fix cuz they're not trained to fix this
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he has already resolve the problem already.

I wont said this is not a problem of PROTON. First of all to us normal consumer will only think that those SA also work for Proton.... no way are they not related or responsible...

second is the SC does not have enough knowledge about the car.... and have no way to help check the problem which i cant accept. Sending a customer back and forth to the SC but cannot solved a small problem on a BRAND NEW car.



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post Apr 18 2012, 03:38 PM

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i think Preve is the most value money car, with push button start, rain sensor, light sensor, 4 airbag, ESP, touch screen + GPS for only 73k. If other brand, maybe up to 130k and above.
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Apr 18 2012, 03:38 PM)
he has already resolve the problem already.

I wont said this is not a problem of PROTON. First of all to us normal consumer will only think that those SA also work for Proton.... no way are they not related or responsible...

second is the SC does not have enough knowledge about the car.... and have no way to help check the problem which i cant accept. Sending a customer back and forth to the SC but cannot solved a small problem on a BRAND NEW car.
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Sadly, you are right. stupid SAs reflect poorly on Proton, but what can Proton do? all they can do is educate their customers.

Also, I am assuming your friend send to authorized SC instead of Proton Edar SC, because I think this is a common problem.
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QUOTE(red_dream83 @ Apr 18 2012, 03:38 PM)
i think Preve is the most value money car, with push button start, rain sensor, light sensor, 4 airbag, ESP, touch screen + GPS for only 73k. If other brand, maybe up to 130k and above.
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you so lazy need push start button, rain sensor, light sensor? proton airbag and esp can be trusted? GPS nowadays so cheap can get easily.

might as well get vios J.

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