Excellent summary above!!! See... clearly we should NOT buy ANY Proton cars!! Toyota brand rules!! Vios J is an excellent car!!!

And also will be branded as Dugong J .

slap in full trd bodykit and spoiler..still use plastic cap rim. lol~

Proton salesman perhaps? Haha

smoke every single car he pass by.... omg tat preve might have some engine problem.... how come letting out so many smoke.


LOL

Its liek those old lorry lor... step on accelerator a cloud of black smoke shoots out to impaire the visibility of everyone behidn u....

Test drive the Preve last nite. Basically Proton still live up to its name as the worst car manufacturer .....

Below are my personal feel on the test drive;

Pros;
1. Looks original and considerably big for a compact sedan
2. CVT transmission is smooth
3. Big booth space
4. Value for money

Cons;
1. Steering too heavy for a car that size and weight
2. Pick up slow considering with CFE and turbocharged
3. Dash board and meters look cheap, like a slightly upgraded Proton Saga dash board and meter
4. Suspension too hard, maybe due to big rims and lower profile tyres
5. Internal finishing are cheap plasticky and too thin
6. Reliability of equipments are questionable. The test drive unit's traction control cannot be turn on. Only a few days after launching....

Conclusion definately not buying. Price and feature wise is very tempting but after trying out ..... very disappointed.

go to preve club...theres is a certain SA there offering discount
ask the SA's details frm them

LOL! You call that spot welding?!? That is call Plug Weld (Search for pictures)! Hahahah.. Talk like some welding expert..

The welding is totally off for a Global car.. Most of the welding are done by robot arm which the welding should be precision & not have such excessive welding bit.. I think P1 want to cut cost until have to ask ppl manually weld and no grind flush?!?

the robot have to change dy

traction control is always on, when u wanna crash, then u will see the light blinking ,means TC working to prevent you crash.

say what u wan.. but Preve still leading the poll with 46%!!

i think need to quote back what i said coz still many professional welders here, hu...hu...

erm, if not mistaken, prtn already used one piece door stamping gen2, tailor welded blanks door saga,exora, and preve i think, door sash + doorpanel, using double spot, robotic plasma welding, new n latest for prtn, better weight, better design for sash n better strength.

I thinkla :-), dengor2 khabar anginla, ingress corp supply the door to prtn preve. So, better ask them lah, ha...ha...

The door sash is made using roll forming method, only using this method, u can used advance high strength steel(ahss) aka ultra high tensile steel(uhss) as the material coz in cold forming method, its really hard to shape ahss to complex shape coz of its rigidity.

Then the door structure is normally used high strength steel low alloy(hsla), and the trapezoidal impact beam, unique to proton n lotus, start in satria neo n upward(not tabular impact beam as some others using) inside the door also ahss using roll forming.

So, combining the door sash n door panel is using robotic(not human, unless humanoid :-)) plasma welding, double spot, for strength n better corrosion resistant. Ops, forget to mentioned, all high strength steel using in car are galvanised steel(corrosion resistant coating steel), yup, the whole body n panel, deep into pool, electro charged, the pool is in tanjung malim, maybe u can visit for swimming n diving training :-). Plus, its painted in white(thats why they called it body in white as the preve chasis during power of one event), then another layers of colors paint.

So, in other words, using this method, the door will enhance its strength by combining two type of steels(ahss for door sash n hsla for door structure), n door sash is stronger than before as in using tailor welded blanks. Coz previously, only being protected by ahss impact beam inside the door, but door sash still not as strong as ahss(trip or dp), but now, the whole door has the same strength. Yup, i think better they (prtn)conceal with rubber or plastics next time, so that people will not do their own professional analysis coz they only familiar with house grill welding, not robotic plasma welding.

I think better those who curious just google for image using plasma welding, spot, how is it look like, the marks from plasma welding.

woi!! y my post appear here!

so many city and dugong owners butthurt here..
these owners come to proton showroom and damage the preve.
later claim proton quality issue.
So fucuk attitude.

the mark of the spot is known as plasma spot braze.

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Added on April 19, 2012, 1:49 pmthe mark of the spot is known as plasma spot braze.

This post has been edited by mat79: Apr 19 2012, 01:49 PM

55 series and 16 inch is call lower profile and big rims?

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Some people used to driving with 13" rims mah.... for them my 35 profile tyre is consider a strip of rubber only lor

no la, when they see your 35 profile, they will say, got tyres meh?

HAHAHAHAHA