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e36.hartge
post Apr 21 2012, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(earthdome @ Apr 21 2012, 01:48 AM)
oh wow. how narrow-minded you are. do you know what's the effect of losing 12000 jobs?.
and do you think airasia has never been subsidized? do you know how long airasia has been exempted from some amount of tax?
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adding the salt
before the MAS-AA merger,AA is having RM7billion debt & after the merger,AA is absorbing all MAS assets including its MRO(AA doesnt hv MRO relying on Singapore's MRO facilities before the merge)
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post Apr 21 2012, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(be7a @ Apr 21 2012, 01:46 AM)
people like it because they can see a leap and an effort on proton's part to improve themselves

people hate it because there are people who like it. they hate it because they've been let down by proton once, and now that they have spent all their hard earnt money on what they believe are better albeit more technologically outdated brands, they don't want to feel like they've made the wrong choice. they want proton to be forever shitty so that they can feel that they've made the right choice in buying other brands. they want to keep on believing that they are driving something better.

...when they're not.
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this is exactly what i thought.
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post Apr 21 2012, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Apr 21 2012, 01:33 AM)

But if can, if u hate the G or dissatisfied with G, can u all please stop Blamming Prtn coz i think n i believe, protonians dont involve in politics, they work hard i believe. Every co has a rule which u need to abide the owners and shareholders...can doing proposal, trying to persuade but the decission are theirs'.

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I totally believe in this. As my previous rant, people love to make false assumption and love gossips or juicy stories.

QUOTE(spfroggie @ Apr 21 2012, 01:36 AM)
I like to see them go bankrupt. If they are not competant why waste my tax payers money. And saying this has nothing to do with my love for malaysia. If malaysia was at the heart of these organisations instead of just raking our money, they will buck up and do us justice. Not constant bailout with our money and forcing us to accept crap vehicles? Look at airasia and perodua. Do you see people b****ing about them as much? Wake up, we are no longer living in kampung days. Even Korea whom 20 years ago was lower income than us now has kia, hyuidai, Samsung, girls generation and kimchi to be exported successfully. What do we have to show? Apam balik ar or kuih kochi?
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what ??? AirAsia ? Perodua ? seriously ?

do you know korean starts their automotive industry almost 20 years before proton ?
do you know KIA started as a bicycle company in 1947?
do you know how protective their government to their automotive industry ? if not because of demand set by USA as a requirement to sell korean cars in the US, I believe, korean government will still tax protect their industry. Even up until today, their government still protect hyundai/KIA indirectly through income tax assessment.

...and how can you say proton are not competent when they can improve their product and still keep improving. What is the basis of your judgement ?
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post Apr 21 2012, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(be7a @ Apr 21 2012, 01:46 AM)
people like it because they can see a leap and an effort on proton's part to improve themselves

people hate it because there are people who like it. they hate it because they've been let down by proton once, and now that they have spent all their hard earnt money on what they believe are better albeit more technologically outdated brands, they don't want to feel like they've made the wrong choice. they want proton to be forever shitty so that they can feel that they've made the right choice in buying other brands. they want to keep on believing that they are driving something better.

...when they're not.
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post Apr 21 2012, 01:59 AM

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With Proton Edar Facebook explanation, the percentage of my desire for Preve gone up to 60%.

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post Apr 21 2012, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Apr 21 2012, 01:59 AM)
With Proton Edar Facebook explanation, the percentage of my desire for Preve gone up to 60%.
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i tot before dis already 70% man.
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post Apr 21 2012, 02:06 AM

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QUOTE(jetpacker @ Apr 21 2012, 02:02 AM)
+9999999999999999
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post Apr 21 2012, 02:10 AM

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the main problem is because they dont have any competition is this market segment, how bad the quality is malaysian force to buy because they have no choice other than proton, reduce high tax for import car, put proton in competition only they will see urgency to improve
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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 21 2012, 02:06 AM)
x 0
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divided by 0.. take that..
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post Apr 21 2012, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(rexa13 @ Apr 21 2012, 02:10 AM)
the main problem is because they dont have any competition is this market segment, how bad the quality is malaysian force to buy because they have no choice other than proton, reduce high tax for import car, put proton in competition only they will see urgency to improve
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still cakap pasal tax.. tapi tax tu pun ko tak baca macam mana.
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post Apr 21 2012, 02:14 AM

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Example of car hitting divider at high speed.
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QUOTE(rexa13 @ Apr 21 2012, 02:10 AM)
the main problem is because they dont have any competition is this market segment, how bad the quality is malaysian force to buy because they have no choice other than proton, reduce high tax for import car, put proton in competition only they will see urgency to improve
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yes i agree that, but this is the duty of gov, isnt it? hmm.gif
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post Apr 21 2012, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 21 2012, 02:11 AM)
divided by 0.. take that..
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You win

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post Apr 21 2012, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 21 2012, 02:15 AM)
You win

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So hows my bashing skills? Can qualify as professional basher or not thumbup.gif But my skill level still low compared to the legendary kevin23.
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post Apr 21 2012, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(ahaks75 @ Apr 21 2012, 12:19 AM)
wow... I'm impressed with the information technology (internet).

I think the world is full of prejudice people. People that prefer to pre-judge or making assumptions (false/negative).

1. someone post a picture of an incident to the car, the moment later, a flock of a troll came and giving out so many negative assumptions withou even knowing anything about it. We hear statements like "proton is using crappy parts", "proton is still a piece of crap", "proton is shit", "proton parts never aligned due to political/cronies vendors" and etc...

2. Surprisingly these people will never care about the truth. Their intention is to bash blindly. They never seek the truth.

3. Next, when we have explanation about the accident that cause the problem, suddenly these people dissapear. Did they retract back their statements ? Never !... because they don't care about the truth.

4. Some people don't even want to believe to the explanation. They prefer to stick with their false, unproven and unsubstantiate assumptions rather than accepting the explanation given. Nobody ask them to believe the explanation but why they still keep their negative assumption ?

5. Failure to bash with the incident, some people bring back stories about tax, protection, government etc etc....to continue bashing the company. They don't even care with the hard fact about automotive industry. They don't even care to know how other manufacturers did in their industy. They don't even care to know what other government did to their automotive industry. To these people, the fact is not important but continue bashing and parroting false statements are their topmost priority.

6. some people will use statment like.... "my friend works in a vendor company for proton....", "my friend working in proton said...." "my granma's friend said..." and some people will agree to them without even asking the evidence.

7. I've heard people said, this part is from vendor A and another part is from vendor B and suddenly they don't fit and have to return back and everything is rushed to meet the dateline.... and another person seems to believe this without even asking the proof. Just enough with a statement like "my friend works here and he told me...." and that statement is taken as gospel truth. Funny enough, that person linked that nice story with politics/cronyism which don't even true...
and then.... the story continue to spread throughout the globe and giving negative perception towards a company/person/organization etc. And it started with just an assumption.
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this quote, is full of thumbup.gif i don't know why, felt like must requote.
seriously, this is very good said

i print this out as a note, don't know how to comment, just pure godlike thumbup.gif
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post Apr 21 2012, 02:17 AM

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post Apr 21 2012, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Apr 21 2012, 02:15 AM)
You win

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how come ?

+9999999 x 0 = 0

and then, 0/0 = 0

so the final answer will be 0.


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post Apr 21 2012, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 21 2012, 02:16 AM)
So hows my bashing skills? Can qualify as professional basher or not  thumbup.gif But my skill level still low compared to the legendary kevin23.
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You fail la, most of your criticism are reasonable, you dare call yourself a basher, cis dry.gif

How to compare to the legendary kevin23, calling him a basher is an insult to bashers.
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QUOTE(ahaks75 @ Apr 21 2012, 02:20 AM)
how come ?

+9999999 x 0 = 0

and then, 0/0 = 0

so the final answer will be 0.
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mana boley divide by 0.. syntax error tongue.gif


Added on April 21, 2012, 2:21 am
QUOTE(dares @ Apr 21 2012, 02:20 AM)
You fail la, most of your criticism are reasonable, you dare call yourself a basher, cis dry.gif

How to compare to the legendary kevin23, calling him a basher is an insult to bashers.
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hanging in this thread is damn entertaining man.. all these funny debates going on.. and going off topic so many times lol.. kesian preve thread v1, i remember inspira thread v1 also kena like this.. then kevin23 likes to invade forte thread.. or anything thread with the word forte on it.. hahahaha...adoi..

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post Apr 21 2012, 02:25 AM

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at 1st..i want to go to sleep...but now i'm back...at 3am gonna take a shower,pack everything,then head to cherating...

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